Former Players

[Mama Sue]

Way over Bubba’s pay grade and no wonder we are all so confused about this

[Sioux>Bison]

19 minutes ago, Msmith said:

Yes

That makes much more sense because the reporting has not been very clear on this point.

Anyone contact Barstool to tell them he still calls himself a Barstool Athlete? They might want that taken down…

[gfNDfan]

13 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Have you not paid much attention to the Washington Post’s journalistic “standards” lately? 

Still WAY WAY more of a place for reporters with true journalist integrity than most places these days.  Ever worked in the business or do you just bitch and complain about it as an outside observer?  I did for a long time.  It's a tough business.  I learned (in college) to be fair and tell both sides of the story when possible.  Sometimes one side or the other are ASSHOLES so they don't always get the benefit of the doubt.   Again - it's a tough job and if you think you can do better - try it!  Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson are NOT journalists - they're assholes!  Anyone who believes them probably contributed a LOT to DT's
"Election Defense Fund" - LOL

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, gfNDfan said:

Still WAY WAY more of a place for reporters with true journalist integrity than most places these days.  Ever worked in the business or do you just bitch and complain about it as an outside observer?  I did for a long time.  It's a tough business.  I learned (in college) to be fair and tell both sides of the story when possible.  Sometimes one side or the other are ASSHOLES so they don't always get the benefit of the doubt.   Again - it's a tough job and if you think you can do better - try it!  Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson are NOT journalists - they're assholes!  Anyone who believes them probably contributed a LOT to DT's
"Election Defense Fund" - LOL

Where is the bitching you speak of? And yea, I could do a better job than Taylor Lorenz right now. 

[Midwestern Hawk]

7 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

Still WAY WAY more of a place for reporters with true journalist integrity than most places these days.  Ever worked in the business or do you just bitch and complain about it as an outside observer?  I did for a long time.  It's a tough business.  I learned (in college) to be fair and tell both sides of the story when possible.  Sometimes one side or the other are ASSHOLES so they don't always get the benefit of the doubt.   Again - it's a tough job and if you think you can do better - try it!  Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson are NOT journalists - they're assholes!  Anyone who believes them probably contributed a LOT to DT's
"Election Defense Fund" - LOL

Integrity and the MSM have nothing in common.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a sheep or part of the problem. It’s a controlled show.  Almost no “real”journalists work in the MSM.

For context, working in the North Dakota market or even Minneapolis is NOT the MSM. At the local level real journalism and journalists do exist.  
 

As for the Post? It is most definitely one of the “stars” of the “show”.

[Goon]

7 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

Still WAY WAY more of a place for reporters with true journalist integrity than most places these days.  Ever worked in the business or do you just bitch and complain about it as an outside observer?  I did for a long time.  It's a tough business.  I learned (in college) to be fair and tell both sides of the story when possible.  Sometimes one side or the other are Opinion Hosts so they don't always get the benefit of the doubt.   Again - it's a tough job and if you think you can do better - try it!  Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson are NOT journalists - they're assholes!  Anyone who believes them probably contributed a LOT to DT's
"Election Defense Fund" - LOL

FYP. 

[CMSioux]

19 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Tom Miller needs the facts on what is going on . He is not going to write an article on hearsay or rumors and UND was not going to disclose any information. The Mo State coaches do not need facts to figure out what is going on with Otis. There is no way these rumors would not have gotten to those coaches. What take that risk on a guy and jeopardize your program and university’s image?

No facts, hearsay, rumors - gotta be a column by McFeely in the works - especially if he can slant it so it paints UND in a bad light.

[Mama Sue]

1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Integrity and the MSM have nothing in common.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a sheep or part of the problem. It’s a controlled show.  Almost no “real”journalists work in the MSM.

For context, working in the North Dakota market or even Minneapolis is NOT the MSM. At the local level real journalism and journalists do exist.  
 

As for the Post? It is most definitely one of the “stars” of the “show”.

Great comments…. You do not know how lucky you are to haveThe Forum….I read many on-line newspapers and IMHO The Forum has the most accurate and non-partisan. I also read several other Forum newspapers….all equally well done at their local levels. Trust me, you would NEVER see a MPR article in the Mpls paper.  Walter Cronkite is gone and has not been replaced.

[Bison Dan]

1 hour ago, CMSioux said:

No facts, hearsay, rumors - gotta be a colu?mn by McFeely in the works - especially if he can slant it so it paints UND in a bad light.

How can you put und is a good or neutral light?   There is no way in hell the coaches didn't know about this and continued to play him.

[petey23]

9 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

Still WAY WAY more of a place for reporters with true journalist integrity than most places these days.  Ever worked in the business or do you just bitch and complain about it as an outside observer?  I did for a long time.  It's a tough business.  I learned (in college) to be fair and tell both sides of the story when possible.  Sometimes one side or the other are ASSHOLES so they don't always get the benefit of the doubt.   Again - it's a tough job and if you think you can do better - try it!  Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson are NOT journalists - they're assholes!  Anyone who believes them probably contributed a LOT to DT's
"Election Defense Fund" - LOL

Bill Maher summed it up pretty well.

"If someone named 'Deep Throat' called the paper today and wanted to meet in a parking garage, this crew of emotional hemophiliacs would have an anxiety attack and report to HR that they don’t 'feel safe.'"

 

[Kab]

9 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

Still WAY WAY more of a place for reporters with true journalist integrity than most places these days.  Ever worked in the business or do you just bitch and complain about it as an outside observer?  I did for a long time.  It's a tough business.  I learned (in college) to be fair and tell both sides of the story when possible.  Sometimes one side or the other are ASSHOLES so they don't always get the benefit of the doubt.   Again - it's a tough job and if you think you can do better - try it!  Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson are NOT journalists - they're assholes!  Anyone who believes them probably contributed a LOT to DT's
"Election Defense Fund" - LOL

I feel the same way about the cast of morning joe, Mr. potato head, McFooley and many others 

there really aren’t any true journalists because they are controlled by the people they work for.

[90siouxfan]

News reporting died when CNN changed it to entertainment. 

[UND1983]

1 hour ago, Bison Dan said:

How can you put und is a good or neutral light?   There is no way in hell the coaches didn't know about this and continued to play him.

Go home

[Kab]

1 hour ago, Bison Dan said:

How can you put und is a good or neutral light?   There is no way in hell the coaches didn't know about this and continued to play him.

Says the fans and coaches from Juice U

[Mama Sue]

4 minutes ago, Kab said:

Says the fans and coaches from Juice U

Juice U will live forever….. and unlike Juice U’s “incident” which happened inside the athletic department/football, UND’s “incident(s)” were not….. hope I don’t get this site in a dumpster fire. Or kicked off. 
So again, way over Bubba’s pay grade. Even if he knew, he had to follow directions. Must have been VERY difficult to wait for a decision from above.

[Kab]

7 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

Juice U will live forever….. and unlike Juice U’s “incident” which happened inside the athletic department/football, UND’s “incident(s)” were not….. hope I don’t get this site in a dumpster fire. Or kicked off. 
So again, way over Bubba’s pay grade. Even if he knew, he had to follow directions. Must have been VERY difficult to wait for a decision from above.

This isn’t Facebook or twitter 

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, Bison Dan said:

How can you put und is a good or neutral light?   There is no way in hell the coaches didn't know about this and continued to play him.

There is no reason to either defend nor condemn anyone. We have no idea what the accusations are. We have no idea of timelines. We have no idea of how it initially played out, who made the decisions, nor why. 
What I believe is that Coach Feeney at Moorhead HS worked hard to help a kid who had multiple challenges. UND FB took a chance on the kid. The story at HS level was that he was a “good kid” and was responding to the positive influence of Coach Feeney and the Moorhead staff and teammates. It seems to me, that regardless of the details, the kid failed to keep focused on his goals and didn’t seem to understand that he let down his coaches and teammates past and present. The sexual assault issue is serious for the alleged victim and the accused. The law doesn’t allow UND to release information. A sports reporter with any integrity would respect that. Normally,  UND would turn the information over to legal counsel and follow advice of counsel. I doubt we will know for sure the details of the incident nor the timing of when information was available to UND and legal authorities. At this point in time, it doesn’t matter. The kid has moved on. UND made an effort to help a kid and it failed. Had the kid been a fourth string extra point holder, I would hope it would have been handled the same. I would assume nothing. I also don’t care what others think. It doesn’t help the kid, the alleged victim, nor UND to speculate. If the alleged victim was raped, then it should be dealt with by legal authorities. If the victim doesn’t wish to put herself through the trauma of a trial, then I hope she has the resources and support system to help deal with the trauma.  

[bison73]

4 hours ago, Mama Sue said:

Juice U will live forever….. and unlike Juice U’s “incident” which happened inside the athletic department/football, UND’s “incident(s)” were not….. hope I don’t get this site in a dumpster fire. Or kicked off. 
So again, way over Bubba’s pay grade. Even if he knew, he had to follow directions. Must have been VERY difficult to wait for a decision from above.

How do you equate too much caffine and sexual assault????? Not even in the same ball park. Oh FYI too much caffine guy didnt play anymore. Sexual assault guy did and had numerous other infractions. Just saying.

[fightingsioux4life]

9 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

News reporting died when CNN changed it to entertainment. 

"Infotainment" started with the Bobbit trial in the early 1990's. It was further entrenched by the O.J. Simpson trial in the mid 1990's. The internet has only further accelerated the trend. And Walter Cronkite isn't coming back to fix it anytime soon.

[N of GF]

14 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

"Infotainment" started with the Bobbit trial in the early 1990's. It was further entrenched by the O.J. Simpson trial in the mid 1990's. The internet has only further accelerated the trend. And Walter Cronkite isn't coming back to fix it anytime soon.

Walter Cronkite was just as biased as any of them are today. The only difference is there weren't so many other sources around to highlight his distortions. His most well know distortions were regarding the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War. 

[Nodak78]

7 minutes ago, N of GF said:

Walter Cronkite was just as biased as any of them are today. The only difference is there weren't so many other sources around to highlight his distortions. His most well know distortions were regarding the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War. 

Amen

[Oxbow6]

Anyone fall off their bike this weekend? Just curious.

[Teeder11]

13 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Anyone fall off their bike this weekend? Just curious.

Don't tell me... Otis, Toiv, Brady O or Waletzo got hurt on a bike this weekend?  What's next!?

[siouxfan512]

On 6/16/2022 at 5:53 PM, Msmith said:

Are you seriously posting this? People like you are the reason more females do not report sexual assault. Shame on you! 

I'll put this as tactfully as I can, believing all women are telling the truth, would be as ignorant as believing that all men are telling the truth. There is a huge grey area in there, and each case is different as it involves different types of people. 

Personally, I would hope all women would report their assault and be honest about it. I am 100% behind holding people accountable for their actions. Unfortunately, there are those out there that aren't honest and have the nerve to make false accusations for a variety of reasons. False accusations can be just as traumatic and life altering for an innocent guy as an assaults could be for a girl. This is by no means intended to say accusations should not be made when an actual even occurs, just that an accusation made cannot be immediately accepted as the Gospel truth.

I know when I was in college I had someone question me and a friend for simply helping another friend (who was black out drunk) out of a bad situation with a creepy guy, and getting her back to her dorm. We were then questioned by her BF as though we had done something wrong because she couldn't remember what had happened the next day. Ultimately we tried being the good guys, getting her out of a bad situation, back to her dorm where she was safe. Like I said, there is a lot of grey area and the point is to not jump to conclusions based on initial comments, accusations or questions. Thankfully, about a week after this all took place something clicked and this gal remembered the night a little clearer and that we had helped her out and taken care of her. Not all guys are good, but I can say from my own brief and minor experience, that even having 1 or 2 people question your intentions is awful. Can't imagine people who are falsely accused of something and have there lives, images, futures, etc. completely destroyed.

[siouxfan512]

On 6/17/2022 at 8:19 AM, Teeder11 said:

Not to celebrate but All-What-If Team -- 1st Team honors 

Add Grady Train to the list.

Grady still has some eligibility left, right?!?!?! Get the rumor mill churning!