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With Makar and now McKinnon banged up I’m not surprised they’re struggling. Hard for any team to overcome that.

I haven't seen the kickoff times yet? But I hope soon. I'm super pumped for some Fighting Hawks Football!!! 

I was simply providing an explanation as to why there is a difference. Most of the time, the Fargo media does not mention the gender or charitable gambling revenue differences. I think that is intentional because the general public does not fully understand those distinctions. In addtion, the choices made by the schools generations ago may not be viewed as favorably by the public today, so they tend to keep that part quiet. As a result, many people are left with the impression that UND relies more heavily on public funding than NDSU. Here are some general numbers: School Male Enrollment Female Enrollment UND ~48% ~52% NDSU ~45% ~55% Athletic Participation Comparison School Men Participants Women Participants Male % Female % University of North Dakota (FY2023) 232 200 53.7% 46.3% North Dakota State University (FY2019 public report located) 333 215 60.8% 39.2% UND’s participation numbers are substantially closer to gender proportionality than NDSU’s. Scholarship Dollar Comparison NDSU (publicly available detailed breakdown) Category Men Women Athletically Related Student Aid $2,994,043 $1,771,567 Share of Scholarship Dollars 62.8% 37.2% NDSU’s football program drives much of the male scholarship total.  But there is $1.22 million dollar gender imbalance.  So, if you account for gender and charity you are looking at $2.22 million dollar difference.  Then if you take in account that UND dropped Tennis which was approximately $1.0 million dollar expense.  You can see much of the difference between the schools is accounted.  Here is an example using 2022 data from USA Today.  As you can see, things even out very quickly.  So, what do you say Dan, let's be more fair to lady's and start womens hockey at NDSU.  We know there is interest.  Please contact your admin and get the ball rolling.  The lady's in your life thank you.     Total Revenue Students Fees School Funds Total School Support School Support % School Support Adjusted % Notes UND $30,859,877 $3,083,815 $11,693,936 $14,777,751 47.9% 44.6% Adjust for Tennis NDSU $29,295,443 $1,378,132 $8,131,877 $9,510,009 32.5% 40.7% Remove gambling and add proportional gender scholarships.  

thru the glory holes in the bathrooms off np ave downtown....yes.

Even when I disagree with him, I've got more respect for McFeely than I do you, Simple Dan.    Don't you have an FBS board to post on?