VMeister Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 hours ago, tnt said: Roughly 70 more alumni every year, and if each of them gave another $1000, and multiply that over the past 30 years or so, and you have quite a bit of money. I think that assumption is going to throw off your calculation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, VMeister said: I think that assumption is going to throw off your calculation. Probably more like roughly 15 more per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 < squinting and vaguely pondering > Hockey roster 25-ish ... FB roster 100-ish ... FB 4x hockey ... Hockey turnover 6 annually-ish ... FB turnover should be 25 annually-ish ... not 70-ish ... Last thought ... < reaches for codeine based cough meds to go back to sleep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Probably more like roughly 15 more per year. FB averages about 20 graduates per year. It is interesting to note that a walk-on (at UND and nationally) is more likely to financially support their alma mater and their specific sport that scholarship players. Kind of a sad commentary!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, UND Fan said: FB averages about 20 graduates per year. It is interesting to note that a walk-on (at UND and nationally) is more likely to financially support their alma mater and their specific sport that scholarship players. Kind of a sad commentary!! What’s sad about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: What’s sad about it? Scholarship plays are getting money from und and don’t return the fsvor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Scholarship plays are getting money from und and don’t return the fsvor Meh, I’m a glass half full guy, I read that as walk on’s succeed more after college and return the favor with gratitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, UND Fan said: FB averages about 20 graduates per year. It is interesting to note that a walk-on (at UND and nationally) is more likely to financially support their alma mater and their specific sport that scholarship players. Kind of a sad commentary!! This former walk-on contributes to my alma mater. Based on the guys I played with the walk-ons were more likely to be local players vs. the scholarship recruits. That often leads to a closer connection to the university. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Wonder if our Otis heads there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Wonder if our Otis heads there Uuuhhhhh, have you heard about Poly's academics? I was thinking more like Moorhead State. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I try not to hate succeed most of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 2:08 PM, gfhockey said: I don’t think it is in todays day and age I lived in a nice 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom apartment alone on the Florida Gulf Coast for less than $50k... that was like 2018. I wasn't struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 10:21 AM, siouxfan512 said: 12 years ago I took my first corporate job at the exciting salary of $29k in Fargo. Married, with no kids at the time, we were able to live comfortable and start saving for our future house and family. To be competitive, we should be able to offer a higher salary, but as to whether or not a $50k salary is enough to live on, it absolutely is if you are smart with it. If you're single and can't live on $50k, you need to reevaluate your expenses. If you're married, then you likely have a second income to factor in. Thanks for that wonderful story. Glad 29K/year treated you so well. But … you missed the point completely. Like way over your head. It’s about competitive values here. Any high caliber DI position coach is worth a hell of a lot more than 50K in a season, particularly compared to top FCS schools, and especially all FBS school. If you were offered the same job in Fargo at a different company/location for 50K as opposed to 29K, which would you take? C’mon man …. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It's my understanding the main motivation for Rouse to head to California is that he's from California. I suppose money, as always, played into it, but I do not believe it's the main reason he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Of course he left UND for Poly. He played at Fresno and those are his ties. Plus the weather 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND08 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Thanks for that wonderful story. Glad 29K/year treated you so well. But … you missed the point completely. Like way over your head. It’s about competitive values here. Any high caliber DI position coach is worth a hell of a lot more than 50K in a season, particularly compared to top FCS schools, and especially all FBS school. If you were offered the same job in Fargo at a different company/location for 50K as opposed to 29K, which would you take? C’mon man …. How many position coaches under the age of 35 stay at one school for longer than 2-3 years? I'm not saying we pay enough for the position (more $$$ = better candidates)...but guys in these positions move on for multiple reasons...a better opportunity, to be closer to family, or out of coaching (can make more money quicker in private business). If we have position coaches that are happy just being position coaches...then I'm of the belief that we have the wrong types of people on our coaching staff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Here's my question. Take out Men's hockey. Why do UND's other programs have no money. How does that change? Cutting sports / conference change saved a lot of money, but do those savings just shrink the overall budget, so really, no additional money for programs. Thinking of individual events (NDSU Football / Gopher hockey over Thanksgiving (no students). Let's say UND Football averages 1000 more fans per home game than usual. Does that even matter? Will that money increase funding? I'm rambling, the overall sentiment and frustration is UND doesn't appear to be in any better spot now financially then they were in 2015 playing in the Big Sky with 21 sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, shep said: It's my understanding the main motivation for Rouse to head to California is that he's from California. I suppose money, as always, played into it, but I do not believe it's the main reason he left. I put my money on frost bite. This area is hell to winter in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, UND1983 said: Of course he left UND for Poly. He played at Fresno and those are his ties. Plus the weather I agree, unless they are also paying him 2-3 times what he made here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Got to get past the hockey against the other sports. the biggest thing I see is marketing, they do and F- 0n marketing games for other sports. when hockey expects smaller crowds they have tons of promotions. need a few business in GF to step up and be promoters of other sports, discounted tickets, family packs, tv ads, bill boards all he way to Medora, Bowman, Fortuna, Pembina and Whapeton and in between how about a class assignment in the marketing classes a free ticket to any sport generates income inside the arena the school to the south is already advertising football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Kab said: Got to get past the hockey against the other sports. the biggest thing I see is marketing, they do and F- 0n marketing games for other sports. when hockey expects smaller crowds they have tons of promotions. need a few business in GF to step up and be promoters of other sports, discounted tickets, family packs, tv ads, bill boards all he way to Medora, Bowman, Fortuna, Pembina and Whapeton and in between how about a class assignment in the marketing classes a free ticket to any sport generates income inside the arena the school to the south is already advertising football Good idea, unfortunately the REA controls the marketing I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Kab said: ... and Whapeton ... Wahpeton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Wahpeton. Close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I knew what you meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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