fightingsioux4life Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: It is what it is. This shows the level of commitment UND has to mediocrity. I'm not saying Bubba can't surprise us, and take us to the next level, but I haven't see anything to convince me this will happen. I suppose the same argument can be made as was with Women's hockey, you have to work with the money you have. I don't know; easy to criticize without having a better solution I guess. In that case, we are on our way to being the next Rutgers. Winning is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Well said Siouxfan512…. sounds like Bubba has not had financial or administrative support, IMHO. Just saw another college was promoting their GAs doing video taping. Should not be on Bubba’s plate, again IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Let's be honest, if Bubba was coaching hockey with the same level of success he would have been fired already. I am not saying he has been a complete failure, but also not shown long-term sustainable success. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, northernraider said: Let's be honest, if Bubba was coaching hockey with the same level of success he would have been fired already. If Bubba was coaching hockey, the position would be getting paid a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 All those that have coached at this level raise your hand and give me your win loss record thanks for sharing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Wow - we are not only embracing mediocrity, we are giving it a full on French kiss. First Chaves now Bubba. Might as well get used to it I guess. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said: It is what it is. This shows the level of commitment UND has to mediocrity. I'm not saying Bubba can't surprise us, and take us to the next level, but I haven't see anything to convince me this will happen. I suppose the same argument can be made as was with Women's hockey, you have to work with the money you have. I don't know; easy to criticize without having a better solution I guess. Or its something that needs to be in place for recruiting purposes. I'd be interested to see the contract before jumping the gun on any assumptions. I don't get the women's hockey reference? If UND football was funded at the level of WIH in comparison to peers and had the results they are seeing, there would be some merit to the argument. Currently, the results are similar (though football has actually won a postseason game) but funding is not in the upper echelon that WIH was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Kab said: All those that have coached at this level raise your hand and give me your win loss record thanks for sharing so, let's find a coach that has a record of 2-100 and willing to take $75,000 since w-l doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oxbow6 Posted March 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2022 Not one bit surprised by this. Kind of disappointed. UND once again hit the...... 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, northernraider said: so, let's find a coach that has a record of 2-100 and willing to take $75,000 since w-l doesn't matter Didn’t say that, not sure what you are insinuating i think bubba is doing better than that and making more than that step up to the plate donate $750,000 and let Chaves know who the next coach is going to be I get frustrated too but not a whole lot I can do but quit going to games I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sioux94 Posted March 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, siouxfan512 said: It is what it is. This shows the level of commitment UND has to mediocrity. I'm not saying Bubba can't surprise us, and take us to the next level, but I haven't see anything to convince me this will happen. I suppose the same argument can be made as was with Women's hockey, you have to work with the money you have. I don't know; easy to criticize without having a better solution I guess. A better solution to me was pretty easy, wait and see how the fall season goes before giving him extension. I am not a Bubba hater as there is enough of that already, I've defended him on the board a few times. However the facts are he has 1 playoff win in 8 years, and made one of the dumbest coaching decisions I've ever seen by going for it on 4th down against NDSU last year. I don't think he earned another contract extension when he still has two years left on his existing contract. What if we go 5-6 again this year, then we have 3 more years of that? If we make a playoff run this fall, give him the extension. This extension was premature in my opinion. It's my opinion and it's a fan board, I don't have to donate 750k to give my opinion, not referring to you on that one. For those saying for recruiting purposes, I could be wrong but I find it EXTREMELY unlikely a kid coming out of high school who wanted to come to UND and liked Bubba, would have decided not to come to UND just because Bubba was only under contract through the 2023 season. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Not one bit surprised by this. Kind of disappointed. UND once again hit the...... Chaves apparently just has things on cruise control. He will make his 1 Million dollars over four years at UND and probably be gone by the time these contracts run out and moved on to the next school for his next paycheck. Would he have given an EWU football coach a 2 year extension after winning 1 playoff game in 8 years.......when there is still 2 years left on their existing contract? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1992 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: A better solution to me was pretty easy, wait and see how the fall season goes before giving him extension. I am not a Bubba hater as there is enough of that already, I've defended him on the board a few times. However the facts are he has 1 playoff win in 8 years, and made one of the dumbest coaching decisions I've ever seen by going for it on 4th down against NDSU last year. I don't think he earned another contract extension when he still has two years left on his existing contract. What if we go 5-6 again this year, then we have 3 more years of that? If we make a playoff run this fall, give him the extension. This extension was premature in my opinion. It's my opinion and it's a fan board, I don't have to donate 750k to give my opinion, not referring to you on that one. For those saying for recruiting purposes, I could be wrong but I find it EXTREMELY unlikely a kid coming out of high school who wanted to come to UND and liked Bubba, would have decided not to come to UND just because Bubba was only under contract through the 2023 season. Sums up my thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 9:38 AM, Mama Sue said: Has admin and the AD given Bubba the “infrastructure” he needs? Scholarships, facilities, salary, and help with discipline? Not having someone video answers that…. Yes, there are coaching issues but it is not just coaching, IMHO. if only we had a state of the art practice facilty........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Not one bit surprised by this. Kind of disappointed. UND once again hit the...... This is very disappointing. What happens if there is regression from last fall? Looking at this fall's schedule it is not hard to imagine UND getting off to a less than "good" start. Which of the first 5 games would UND be favored in today? @Nebraska Northern Iowa @Northern Arizona @Southern Illinois Missouri State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: This is very disappointing. What happens if there is regression from last fall? Looking at this fall's schedule it is not hard to imagine UND getting off to a less than "good" start. Which of the first 5 games would UND be favored in today? @Nebraska Northern Iowa @Northern Arizona @Southern Illinois Missouri State all of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! day by day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: all of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! day by day To be fair we "day by dayed" it all of last year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, Irish said: To be fair we "day by dayed it all of last year" The beginning of the second half @USD, the NDSU game 4th down and a few other key moments, I think it could be described as "minute by minute" or even "second by second". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 ooooof...... Just when the football program needed an invigorating cold shower and some awakening... it settles for adding a bit more tepid water to the already lukewarm bath.... I thought the worst call all year was going for it on 4th.... but punting here isnt much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 UND just extended a coach coming off a 5-6 losing season…. This program/athletic department is an embarrassment. Pathetic. Not impressed by this move. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: UND just extended a coach coming off a 5-6 losing season…. This program/athletic department is an embarrassment. Pathetic. Not impressed by this move. I am often wrong but this may be symbolic for recruiting purposes. Rarely ever does a coach go into the last year of contract anymore. I still feel he has 1-2 years left of coaching 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 We will be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelsup Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I would really like to hear Chaves answer the question of why Bubba was extended. What in gods name are we doing extending a coach who has just come off a 5-6 season and has a 47-40 career record and has 2 YEARS REMAINING ON HIS CURRENT CONTRACT! By the way I like Bubba and think we should keep him this year. I just have no idea what the rush was to extend him. Whomever is Bubbas agent must be a heck of a salesman. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: I am often wrong but this may be symbolic for recruiting purposes. Rarely ever does a coach go into the last year of contract anymore. I still feel he has 1-2 years left of coaching Do you really think UND can afford to buy out 2-3 years remaining on the contract? Chaves won't do it, no way. I'm very curious about what Bubba will be paid under this deal. I'd assume there are pay increases along the way. I do agree that this contract was extended due to recruiting issues, but I'm still thinking they could have waited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hawkster said: Do you really think UND can afford to buy out 2-3 years remaining on the contract? Chaves won't do it, no way. I'm very curious about what Bubba will be paid under this deal. I'd assume there are pay increases along the way. I do agree that this contract was extended due to recruiting issues, but I'm still thinking they could have waited. Same old $10k per year raise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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