UND @ NDSU 11/19/2022

[Parkers Pros]

We are just pretty weak up the middle. I like our linebackers, but they are limited. Devin K has been excellent for his career but he is beat up and is a North/South backer only now.  His partner is going to be a good one, but he’s young. our safeties just haven’t developed as well as we had hoped. Communication breakdowns have been evident, and that’s the responsibility of the safety to keep everyone lined up. It’s a really hard defense. But if they can get it figured out, it’s really hard to play against..

[forksandspoons]

Has it been overlooked just how important Noah Larson was for UND? 

[Sioux>Bison]

17 hours ago, dmksioux said:

Bottom line, we’re not ready to contend. It is what it is. I’m not sure how long Bubba has been coach or how long he needs. There are coaches out there who can build a program faster than what Bubba is doing. Unfortunately UND will not hire them.  And so it goes…

So far only a few teams this past decade have been able to take down the dynasty. It’s not like we are the only one to have been struggling…..

[UND-FB-FAN]

28 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

So far only a few teams this past decade have been able to take down the dynasty. It’s not like we are the only one to have been struggling…..

If UND was only losing to NDSU, sure, but they drop other games they should win year after year. 
 

But, here we are. Defense is the weak link, but the team’s mindset in big games is also a major flaw. Some can be improved over the off-season, some cannot. 
 

Will be interesting to see how UND looks in the playoffs. 2019 @Nichols State didn’t look too good. 

[geaux_sioux]

Anyone else notice how our NG was getting tossed side to side every running play? On one of millers TDs the nose was 6 yds deep in the end zone. That’s why we couldn’t stop the run.

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Anyone else notice how our NG was getting tossed side to side every running play? On one of millers TDs the nose was 6 yds deep in the end zone. That’s why we couldn’t stop the run.

It’s true.  Been said a million times, but NDSU players look the part and play the part. UND front line doesn’t look the part. Not physical enough, not big enough.
 

UND needs to recruit and develop more physicality and speed - across the board. Need to hit the transfer portal hard this off-season. And need to get some  damn money in the football program, not just hockey; need to bolster coaching salary pool and make changes … and apparently now also improve playoff bids. 

[shep]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

Anyone else notice how our NG was getting tossed side to side every running play? On one of millers TDs the nose was 6 yds deep in the end zone. That’s why we couldn’t stop the run.

Our NG is a nice sized linebacker.

[The Sicatoka]

We’re running a 3-4 scheme designed to stop the veer. Haven’t seen the veer in a couple decades. 

[iramurphy]

Food for thought:

Bison Starting DLine:     Oline:

6’5” 282 lbs                 6’6”  303lbs

6’2” 260lbs                   6’4” 329lbs

 6’1” 279lbs                    6’4”  286lbs

 6’1” 242lbs.                   6’4” 304lbs

                                       6’6” 290lbs 

                                       6’3” 245lbs

 

UND DLine:        Oline:

6’3” 240lbs         6’4” 300lbs

6’2” 290lbs          6’2” 305lbs

6’2” 255lbs           6’3” 290lbs or 6’1” 285

6’3” 290lbs           6’5” 305lbs

6’5” 250lbs            6’6” 310lbs - 6’4” 285

6’3” 290lbs           6’4” 235lbs- 6’3” 250

6’4” 250lbs. 

I’m not sure size is the issue. 

[Sioux94]

26 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Food for thought:

Bison Starting DLine:     Oline:

6’5” 282 lbs                 6’6”  303lbs

6’2” 260lbs                   6’4” 329lbs

 6’1” 279lbs                    6’4”  286lbs

 6’1” 242lbs.                   6’4” 304lbs

                                       6’6” 290lbs 

                                       6’3” 245lbs

 

UND DLine:        Oline:

6’3” 240lbs         6’4” 300lbs

6’2” 290lbs          6’2” 305lbs

6’2” 255lbs           6’3” 290lbs or 6’1” 285

6’3” 290lbs           6’5” 305lbs

6’5” 250lbs            6’6” 310lbs - 6’4” 285

6’3” 290lbs           6’4” 235lbs- 6’3” 250

6’4” 250lbs. 

I’m not sure size is the issue. 

Our 290 guys are all NG's though which should be bigger. Our DE's are 240-250.....too light. 

[Wilbur]

So after winning their super bowl against UND, three Bison players are transferring.  

All kidding aside, why now?  And will they play in two weeks? 

[iramurphy]

Just now, Wilbur said:

So after winning their super bowl against UND, three Bison players are transferring.  

All kidding aside, why now?  And will they play in two weeks? 

Which ones?

[sioux24/7]

3 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Which ones?

 

[iramurphy]

I wonder why now instead of after playoffs other than “ been there, done that”.  

[shep]

All 3 were contributors this season.

WHY now?

[forksandspoons]

Woah 

[Siouxperfan7]

3 minutes ago, shep said:

All 3 were contributors this season.

WHY now?

I would too if I had to play for Entz!  Surprised they lasted this long!!

[nd1sufan]

47 minutes ago, shep said:

All 3 were contributors this season.

WHY now?

It is a very demanding program. Kramer in particular is very demanding and with them playing into January most years, there is very little time for an off season. They get 2 weeks off after the title game and are right back at it. It is not for everybody.  There is supposed to be a 4th leaving too. We will see who that is.  Of the 3 so far, the only real loss is Sigle. He is a very good CB. There are others on the roster that can replace the other 2 without missing anything.

[SiouxFan100]

The commitment is crazy. Really are athletes students in that order.

[UND1983]

21 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:

It is a very demanding program. Kramer in particular is very demanding and with them playing into January most years, there is very little time for an off season. They get 2 weeks off after the title game and are right back at it. It is not for everybody.  There is supposed to be a 4th leaving too. We will see who that is.  Of the 3 so far, the only real loss is Sigle. He is a very good CB. There are others on the roster that can replace the other 2 without missing anything.

Lolol. Your program spends no more time than any other. Kramer is not the reason

[Midwestern Hawk]

5 hours ago, forksandspoons said:

Has it been overlooked just how important Noah Larson was for UND? 

Yes, I have been thinking that Noah Larson and Jordan Canady made a ton of tackles over the last several years and we have not been nearly as good stopping the run.

[NDSU grad]

1 hour ago, iramurphy said:

I wonder why now instead of after playoffs other than “ been there, done that”.  

By entering the portal now they can sign in December and enroll at their new school for the second semester.  

[nd1sufan]

28 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Lolol. Your program spends no more time than any other. Kramer is not the reason

other than their season has lasted 6 weeks longer than 90% of the other FCS schools for the entirety of the kids careers you may be right. And they all talk about how tough and demanding Kramer can be. Most  kids can take it and really like Kramer.  There are some that feel it is too much.

[Siouxperman8]

1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:

The commitment is crazy. Really are athletes students in that order.

Back in the DII days in the 80's, I figured I spent 40 hours a week at fb related stuff during the season and about 25 hours/week the rest of the school year.  That included practice, weight training, meetings, film sessions, travel, games, etc.  

I'm sure it is only that much more in the DI era. 

[UND1983]

12 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

Back in the DII days in the 80's, I figured I spent 40 hours a week at fb related stuff during the season and about 25 hours/week the rest of the school year.  That included practice, weight training, meetings, film sessions, travel, games, etc.  

I'm sure it is only that much more in the DI era. 

Its less. The NCAA has really restricted hours lately.  Never been easier to be a college FB player as far as time goes