BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: A 4 second clip is a bit short. kind of like little? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Ok now I remember this play. Call me a homer here, but I see this as the DB not thinking Maag was down, which it appears he actually wasn’t. Maag reacted as a player who wasn’t giving himself up when he popped up, the DB interpreted him popping up as him trying to continue running and finished the tackle. I don’t see any issue here. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Let's try this again PXL_20221123_165119230.TS.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: Let's try this again PXL_20221123_165119230.TS.mp4 That is more like I remember BS not getting the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Maag's elbows were down and possibly a knee and a hip. It looks like Maag is attempting to run towards the middle of the field (the huddle) rather than up the sideline. Bison #1's body language says he was upset about Maag catching a ball, not that he was trying to make a tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, jdub27 said: That's not how yo utake a guy down if you think the play isn't over.... EXACTLY this. And Maag did get up quick yes, but he was not trying to run towards the goal line. Also.....when did they change the rules so that the whistle can be blown and the play is over......that as long as in the defenders mind.....they didn't think the play was over.....it's ok to hit someone. Wasn't aware of that new rule. But the most telling thing I think is what you said, that is not how you tackle someone when yo think the play is live, he was just f'ing with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. It’s questionable, but I think if the players were reversed, you’d all be arguing the other side of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. It’s questionable, but I think if the players were reversed, you’d all be arguing the other side of this one. No we wouldn't it was cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: No we wouldn't it was cheap. I’ve been trying to be objective here. Call it questionable if you want, but a cheap shot? Not even close. If I’m that corner I’m doing the same thing. You keep running, you’re gonna get hit. No question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I’m with @Bison06 on this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: No we wouldn't it was cheap. You and the average bear have very different definitions of what is "cheap" apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I’ve been trying to be objective here. Call it questionable if you want, but a cheap shot? Not even close. If I’m that corner I’m doing the same thing. You keep running, you’re gonna get hit. No question. I stand by my first post. Wasn’t the worst thing in the world but was worthy of a penalty and should have stuck with the flag. a little questionable with Maag popping up but the play was over. Maag looks like he was extending the ball to flip to the referee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: I stand by my first post. Wasn’t the worst thing in the world but was worthy of a penalty and should have stuck with the flag. a little questionable with Maag popping up but the play was over. Maag looks like he was extending the ball to flip to the referee. Fair enough. What is your assessment of why the flag was picked up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Let's move on ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Let's move on ladies. Lol, this made me laugh. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Maag's elbows were down and possibly a knee and a hip. It looks like Maag is attempting to run towards the middle of the field (the huddle) rather than up the sideline. Bison #1's body language says he was upset about Maag catching a ball, not that he was trying to make a tackle. BS. Guarantee you Maeg tries to continue running if he is not tackled again. He is not getting up to run back to the huddle and they are not in a hurry up offense. He was trying to get on SC like Belquist did earlier this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Lol, this made me laugh. Good work. Lol. That play meant nothing and is worthless. The plays where NDSU ran for tons of yards meant something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Fair enough. What is your assessment of why the flag was picked up? I think the db knew enough go over the line but hold back a little so it wasn’t totally egregious. In my opinion - Once it was called it should have stuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. It’s questionable, but I think if the players were reversed, you’d all be arguing the other side of this one. An official was right there. Did and when did the whistle blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N of GF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 #1's body language tells me he knew it was worthy of a penalty. He wasn't celebrating with his teammates; he was pissed off. If Maag was trying to extend the play, why was he going directly toward two Bison coming in to high five #1? The ref was already coming out to spot the ball. So, the ref, and two of #1's teammates knew the play was over when he flipped Maag. So, the whistle had already blown? That's roughing, isn't it? This is an honest question. I'm not a super-duper-football mind like so many people around here; Even if the play isn't over, is this a legal tackle? I thought you couldn't lift someone off the ground in the course of tackling them. Either way, this play doesn't change the outcome. It's still interesting to debate interpretation of the rules, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, N of GF said: #1's body language tells me he knew it was worthy of a penalty. He wasn't celebrating with his teammates; he was pissed off. If Maag was trying to extend the play, why was he going directly toward two Bison coming in to high five #1? The ref was already coming out to spot the ball. So, the ref, and two of #1's teammates knew the play was over when he flipped Maag. So, the whistle had already blown? That's roughing, isn't it? This is an honest question. I'm not a super-duper-football mind like so many people around here; Even if the play isn't over, is this a legal tackle? I thought you couldn't lift someone off the ground in the course of tackling them. Either way, this play doesn't change the outcome. It's still interesting to debate interpretation of the rules, though. You can’t pick somebody up and body slam them. Grabbing a leg is not a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N of GF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: You can’t pick somebody up and body slam them. Grabbing a leg is not a penalty. How about lifting someone's leg up until they fall over? He didn't just 'grab his leg'. Edit to add: Focus on Maag's feet only. Tell me how that happens without being lifted off the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, N of GF said: How about lifting someone's leg up until they fall over? He didn't just 'grab his leg'. Edit to add: Focus on Maag's feet only. Tell me how that happens without being lifted off the ground? Focusing on his feet, it appears he is lifted because he is trying to run away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I suppose one can look at it in different ways, because when I saw it in live time I thought it was a personal foul, then when I watched the replay, I interpreted it that the Bison player didn't think Maag was down. Regardless, I don't think a play like that swings momentum so UND magically stays in a game where they were dominated by the Bison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Should a flag have been thrown? Maybe not. But once it was thrown, it should have remained a penalty. Unless this play was reviewed. Can't remember. There were like 30 that day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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