NDSU grad Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, iramurphy said: These athletes get missed when recruiters focus more on listed height and weight, sometimes quality of hs competition (small school kids) rather than quickness, foot speed, overall athletic ability and projecting potential for those athletes. The best recruiters see the potential in these kids and get them on campus where the programs develop them as they physically mature. To me this is one of the keys to improving programs. Waletzko, Hegg, are two examples but there are many over the years. Also seeing the potential of hs kids who can play other positions in college. (ie can the 6’ 6” QB from DGF play free safety, TE, OLB or DE at this level? ). Totally agree, but it seems like NDSU and UND are good at finding those kids. Mauch and Haeg come to mind for NDSU. Both PWO’s from small schools, both probably in the NFL. Quote
UND08 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 50 minutes ago, NDSU grad said: Totally agree, but it seems like NDSU and UND are good at finding those kids. Mauch and Haeg come to mind for NDSU. Both PWO’s from small schools, both probably in the NFL. Those are the cherries on top that make a recruiting class special. NDSU has been absolutely ELITE at developing PWOs into pro-level talent. UND has had plenty that have done well in the program too. The problem I see with our recruiting is sometimes we are too reliant on diamonds in the rough. There are a lot of PWOs in the portal looking for drop down homes these days too. You need a mix of both studs and diamonds to excel at this level. NDSU has that market cornered...we need to catch up. And yes that means I'm agreeing with UND-FB-Fan's assertion that we don't have enough "D1 bodies" on the roster. We need to get better at winning some battles and not relying solely on evaluation of under the radar kids. That's always going to be a big emphasis for us...and I like how we did in some of the higher profile battles we had last year, but progress needs to continue to be made in my opinion. 1 Quote
iramurphy Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, NDSU grad said: Totally agree, but it seems like NDSU and UND are good at finding those kids. Mauch and Haeg come to mind for NDSU. Both PWO’s from small schools, both probably in the NFL. Yup. Often those kids are seen at summer FB camps where coaches see their potential. Haeg was a miss by both UND and NDSU. Very bright, great athlete, great work ethic. Neither offered $ but fortunately for NDSU neither did UND. Former UND tackle coaching at Brainerd told anyone who would listen this kid would be good. Gophers missed on him altogether. Lots of similars stories over the years. 2 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Mama Sue said: West of Willmar….close to SD border Nice little town, has a nice golf course. Strong FB program in Class A MN Quote
sioux24/7 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Certainly fits the mold UND seems to love. Quote
Sioux94 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Hudl says 4.56 40.....not sure how padded that is. Shows he ran a 50.07 400M which is a pretty good time. https://www.hudl.com/profile/13274055/Michael-Gross Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: Would be good to develop a relationship and start a pipeline with kids from EP. 2 Quote
SooToo Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: I wonder what, if anything, this signing says about the status of the offer to Hakim, the receiver from Shanley. Quote
homer Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, SooToo said: I wonder what, if anything, this signing says about the status of the offer to Hakim, the receiver from Shanley. Guessing you’re right but hopeful you’re not. Watching him play basketball this year and the kid is just a real fluid athlete and looks college ready already. Quote
jdub27 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Sioux94 said: Hudl says 4.56 40.....not sure how padded that is. Shows he ran a 50.07 400M which is a pretty good time. https://www.hudl.com/profile/13274055/Michael-Gross He shows a 4.44 on his profile. He also shows a 4.57 and 4.64 from UND's camp. Either way, I assume the staff is comfortable with what they saw this summer. Quote
Sioux94 Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 12 hours ago, jdub27 said: He shows a 4.44 on his profile. He also shows a 4.57 and 4.64 from UND's camp. Either way, I assume the staff is comfortable with what they saw this summer. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place on his hudl? Shows 4.56 on his hudl when I look. If UND shows that time from their camp it's probably legit. Quote
jdub27 Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Sioux94 said: Maybe I'm not looking in the right place on his hudl? Shows 4.56 on his hudl when I look. If UND shows that time from their camp it's probably legit. Just different info in different spots. His Twitter bio shows the 4.44. He tweeted out his UND numbers from July. Quote
Popular Post Nodak78 Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 8, 2022 Bubba and Danny visiting Kaminski family. 5 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Bubba and Danny visiting Kaminski family. Such a shame our coaches have such an "I just work here" mentality..... 3 2 Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Bubba and Danny visiting Kaminski family. Early signing day can't get here soon enough. Quote
SuhakiYeahYeah Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Bubba and Danny visiting Kaminski family. Doing everything they can to keep Wisconsins grubby mits off of him, well done 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Freund being from that neck of the woods sure doesn't hurt right now. Quote
Nodak78 Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: Freund being from that neck of the woods sure doesn't hurt right now. You bet strong ties. Quote
Dustin Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Freund being from that neck of the woods sure doesn't hurt right now. I've thought about that before, and not just with this kid. But especially with this kid, both being QBs. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 4 hours ago, SiouxBoys said: Such a shame our coaches have such an "I just work here" mentality..... Every coach in the country does in home visits, even the sh*tty ones. But, well, you see what you want to see. As a disclaimer, for you folks who like to jump to conclusions, Danny Freund is NOT a sh*tty coach. With that said, happy to see Bubba and Danny out there. Starting to look real good on Kaminski recruiting front … 1 1 Quote
tnt Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Dustin said: I've thought about that before, and not just with this kid. But especially with this kid, both being QBs. ... and both are coaches kids, correct? Quote
Dustin Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, tnt said: ... and both are coaches kids, correct? I don't really pay attention to that stuff, so I have no idea. Quote
Dustin Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Dustin said: I don't really pay attention to that stuff, so I have no idea. I honestly couldn't even tell you another by name. Just that when recruiting Wisconsin, I am sure it helps to have the OC from there. Quote
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