2021-2022 football season

[UND-FB-FAN]

10 hours ago, Sioux95 said:

I think we need both SDSU and UNI to lose next week, and even that may not be enough.  It looks like there is a good chance the Big Sky gets four teams in, which hurts the chance of getting 5 teams from the Valley in.  But you just never know.  At this point we still have a meaningful game to play next week and I'm happy about that!

UND needs to beat SDSU @ Brookings first, that’s a huge task based on how UND has played this season. Possible, not probable.

[Shawn-O]

23 hours ago, Sioux95 said:

I think we need both SDSU and UNI to lose next week, and even that may not be enough.  It looks like there is a good chance the Big Sky gets four teams in, which hurts the chance of getting 5 teams from the Valley in.  But you just never know.  At this point we still have a meaningful game to play next week and I'm happy about that!

The Sky has 5 teams 8 wins or better, they will all get in no question.   

[SiouxFan100]

 

 

Sam Herder

 

@SamHerderFCS

NDSU, USD, SIU, and Mo State will be in, IMO If UND beat SDSU, the committee could go with just 4 MVFC teams in. Or choose a 5th team with 6 D1 wins (if UNI beats WIU): -UND with its SDSU win -or SDSU with its NDSU/FBS win -or UNI with 3 ranked wins vs Sac State, SIU, and SDSU

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

SD miracle in Vermillion view from the end zone.
www.ncaa.com/sports/football/fcs

[The Sicatoka]

Bad news: UND has to win, and even after putting in the effort the odds aren't great. 

Good news: Back in the 80's Ric Ocasek got with Paula Porizkova so stranger things have happened. 

[Siouxperfan7]

The most frustrating thing will be if we win this Saturday, we are likely just an Otis Weah fumble from making the postseason.

[gfhockey]

14 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

The most frustrating thing will be if we win this Saturday, we are likely just an Otis Weah fumble from making the postseason.

Or a fg to win it

or a play call from Danny away

 

or a 4th down call by bubba 

[AJS]

Odom to the transfer portal. With the extra Covid year, that Junior class is really going to have the spotlight on it. 

[nodak651]

2 hours ago, AJS said:

Odom to the transfer portal. With the extra Covid year, that Junior class is really going to have the spotlight on it. 

Was he on Scholly?  

[sioux24/7]

1 hour ago, AJS said:

Odom to the transfer portal. With the extra Covid year, that Junior class is really going to have the spotlight on it. 

Seemed to never really find a spot. Bounced back and forth from DB to WR if I recall. Hope he catches on somewhere!

[shep]

5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Bad news: UND has to win, and even after putting in the effort the odds aren't great. 

Good news: Back in the 80's Ric Ocasek got with Paula Porizkova so stranger things have happened. 

Lyle Lovett and Juila Roberts agree.

[Sioux95]

SIU is currently ranked 15th in the FCS Coaches poll.  If they loose to YSU this weekend, they will have lost 3 of the last 4 and have a bad loss.  Would they still make the playoffs? 

[geaux_sioux]

Mercer lost today. That might help us if we win today. Probably the least impressive 7-3 resume possible.

[UND1992]

2021 Und football in 10 words. The lousiest of the best, the best of the lousiest. Also encapsulates the Bubba Era. See you next fall ✌

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just now, UND1992 said:

2021 Und football in 10 words. The lousiest of the best, the best of the lousiest. Also encapsulates the Bubba Era. See you next fall ✌

Average … common

[AJS]

I forgot who said it, or which thread it was in, but I really liked the take. The highs for this program seem to be getting higher and the lows aren't as low. Nobody will think this year was successful. The players, coaches or fans. Each MVFC game (outside of Western) was within a touch down. They are there right now, or very close is probably the more appropriate saying. It's weird with how this year played out to be this confident about next year, but I think they are going to be really good. That does it for the 2021 season, we'll see everyone in the 2022 thread.

[Midwestern Hawk]

This team was as good as any team in the MVFC, the game management wasn’t.  Those are the facts.  Not sure when our personnel will be good enough to compensate for the way the end of the game was handled in Brookings.  If the SDSU game was an aberration, that would be one thing, the poor game management was the rule.

[ND-fan]

This year has been team that has shown it can play with anyone but problem has been to finish people off in end of the game.  I believe this is sign of young team especially at the skilled positions on offense and the defense was good but hurt by injuries. I have to believe were going to be better next year on offense and i think defense will still be quite strong. It will be interesting see how our young players develop and what we can add to this team the defense needs to add to lines in numbers and size. This team with a few breaks could have easily made the playoffs this year but it wasn't meant to be. I am sure to hear how it was all coaching but watching this team they are well coached they make very few penalties and they play well together as a team. I felt for this team but i also know were very close to being very good team that could make championship run. I remember coming from 80 and 90's when we had similar results until it finally all came together as program and i think were about to do the same again.

[Oxbow6]

Season's over. Wrap it up and put a bow on it.

[Midwestern Hawk]

11 hours ago, ND-fan said:

This year has been team that has shown it can play with anyone but problem has been to finish people off in end of the game.  I believe this is sign of young team especially at the skilled positions on offense and the defense was good but hurt by injuries. I have to believe were going to be better next year on offense and i think defense will still be quite strong. It will be interesting see how our young players develop and what we can add to this team the defense needs to add to lines in numbers and size. This team with a few breaks could have easily made the playoffs this year but it wasn't meant to be. I am sure to hear how it was all coaching but watching this team they are well coached they make very few penalties and they play well together as a team. I felt for this team but i also know were very close to being very good team that could make championship run. I remember coming from 80 and 90's when we had similar results until it finally all came together as program and i think were about to do the same again.

If UND is going to get to the next level it has to fill these gaps:

1. Game/clock management/ play calling - Almost every MVFC game had at least one instance where game management, time management or play calling was just plain bad.

2. Vertical passing game - we can debate all day long about why we struggle to complete any deep passes but this is a huge problem.

3. QB as a running threat - Tommy needs to do what he did yesterday, 5-8 QB runs/scrambles for 50 yards changes the defense.

4. Field Goal from 45 and in have to be $ - This is D1 college football, most large school high school teams can kick field goals consistently from inside 35 yards.

[Devils]

There's hardly a fan base in America that doesn't complain about their team's coaching or play calling - go look at the bison boards, they trash their OC endlessly.  Coaches have to make the decisions which inevitably are not going to work at times.  Certainly not saying ours does everything well.  #1 is always an improvement point, if it's not your coach should probably quit.

2-4 I'd definitely agree on and add the OL needs to improve.  There really wasn't a game this fall where we physically overmatched an opponent, other than Drake and maybe WIU.  

[AJS]

Really curious what everyone's thoughts are on the strategy around the "5th" year guys the next few years. Originally, my thought was you want to be very strategic. Hand pick the top four or five guys and go that route. Keep that "5th" year class relatively small. Last year my thought would have been keep either Boltmann or Maag, but not both. Now, it's keep anyone on the 2-Deep if they'll come back. I'll give this coaching staff a lot of credit, I thought they did an incredible job with the roster construction. Start with the RS-Junior class and really evaluate. By that time they are four years in the program, you know where they stand. Unfortunately, if you don't see them as working their way onto the depth chart, then start there. 

I know the Senior day gave us educated guesses on some. Here's my "5th" year rankings.

A Players (Season expectation changing players. Very hard replace)

• Morrison
• Larson
• Krzanowski
• Waletzko

B Players (Starters / Easier Time replacing - Still add a lot to team)

• Boltmann
• Maag
• Seguin
• Peterson *
• Hinders *

I hope they all come back.

* Specialists, which I look at differently. Not taking anyone else's scholarship $. As far as I'm aware there is not a punter / LS in next years recruiting class.

What's others opinons on the "5th year", the more that stay the better, or keep it to truly impact players in positions that lack depth, or somewhere in-between?

 

[Oxbow6]

2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

If UND is going to get to the next level it has to fill these gaps:

1. Game/clock management/ play calling - Almost every MVFC game had at least one instance where game management, time management or play calling was just plain bad.

2. Vertical passing game - we can debate all day long about why we struggle to complete any deep passes but this is a huge problem.

3. QB as a running threat - Tommy needs to do what he did yesterday, 5-8 QB runs/scrambles for 50 yards changes the defense.

4. Field Goal from 45 and in have to be $ - This is D1 college football, most large school high school teams can kick field goals consistently from inside 35 yards.

1. Isn't going to change unfortunately. It's  mind numbing to watch. Gonna set the 2022 over/under at 5. That number is the times UND punts from its opponents 35-39 yards line with 2 yards or less on 4th down.

2. Top 3 WRs this season only Belquist played to his talent level or exceeded it. Don't know one Bison fan that isn't disappointed he didn't wind up at SU. He's the real deal. Maag and Ritcher were hugely disappointing. Need someone that can separate, run and consistently catch the ball down field.

3. Agree. Tommy needs to take what the D gives him. He had too many opportunities he didn't take advantage of this season.

4. This is huge. Kindred had a female HS soccer player that made 4 of 5 PATs and hit her only FG attempt in the championship game of the Dakota Bowl. Find someone....male or female.

[Midwestern Hawk]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

1. Isn't going to change unfortunately. It's  mind numbing to watch. Gonna set the 2022 over/under at 5. That number is the times UND punts from its opponents 35-39 yards line with 2 yards or less on 4th down.

2. Top 3 WRs this season only Belquist played to his talent level or exceeded it. Don't know one Bison fan that isn't disappointed he didn't wind up at SU. He's the real deal. Maag and Ritcher were hugely disappointing. Need someone that can separate, run and consistently catch the ball down field.

3. Agree. Tommy needs to take what the D gives him. He had too many opportunities he didn't take advantage of this season.

4. This is huge. Kindred had a female HS soccer player that made 4 of 5 PATs and hit her only FG attempt in the championship game of the Dakota Bowl. Find someone....male or female.

I listed this number 1 for a reason, to overcome these shortcomings UND has to be BETTER than each opponent.

-NDSU - Not calling TO on 4th down, cost UND the lead and possibly the game.

-USD - Used TO to begin the 2nd half, which changed complexion of game down the stretch.

-SIU - EVERY UND second half possession ended inside the SIU 35 and UND scored 7 points in the second half.

-WIU - 1st half ended with UND @ WIU 8 yard line and no points and no FG try

-MSU - blew an 11 point lead late in 4th qtr with awful play calling

-SDSU - not calling TO with the ball @SDSU 31 after a sack and burned 30 some seconds needlessly resulting in a bad throw and INT

 

These are off the top of my head, I know there were several more questionable 3rd and 4th and short calls. 

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

I listed this number 1 for a reason, to overcome these shortcomings UND has to be significantly better than each opponent.

I will say, I’m overall fairly impressed with Freund’s offense and Holinka’s defense, but it’s the game management from Bubba that has been awfully disappointing. Hate to say, cause he’s a good guy, but the sooner he retires/resigns, the better UND will be on the field. Of course, getting better players would also help, but UND needs better facilities which requires more $$ in order to secure this.