CMSioux Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, nd1sufan said: You didn’t hear that from anyone. He had offers from Brown, Cornell, and Colgate along with an offer from Air Force. Acedemics were not an issue. I got one - thanks for playing! 1 1
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Talk about apples and oranges. Let's try this. Most Juice U posters claim it's not a Rivalry game for the team. = Team knowing this is a Rivalry = Team thinking this is not a Rivalry Apples + Oranges = 112th FB game between the teams. Oranges realize this is a Rivalry when the game is over!
jdub27 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Talk about apples and oranges. The last two games you refer to are two months from now and around Thanksgiving time. Can you tell me how many Bison fans would be offering their UND tickets for sale if they were on on 11/9 or 11/23, or any other date for that matter? Of course not, early season games are different. I said for reference, not comparison. And no I can't tell you nor can you tell me. Maybe more, maybe less. But I can without certainty guarantee the average sale price would be around half (because it is).
Sioux>Bison Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnboyND7 said: I said using ticket prices as your reason for it being a rivalry doesnt work. So what’s your understanding of why the ticket prices are going for so much? 1. Is it because it’s a big game against a big time (ranked) opponent? 2. Is it because it’s a rivalry game and both fan bases are driving a higher demand 3. Or is it because of high demand for tickets from just the opponents fans? Would you be saying our fans care more about our game with NDSU than the other teams you play that are considered your rival? It has to be because of one of the three reasons, but I guess you can remain in denial.
Gothmog Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, jdub27 said: I said for reference, not comparison. And no I can't tell you nor can you tell me. Maybe more, maybe less. But I can without certainty guarantee the average sale price would be around half (because it is). Sure, the price is less for those games. But that's primarily because there aren't many UND fans buying Bison tickets for games against other teams. Which was, of course, the point in the first place. There's no way around it. The increased demand for this weekend's game is caused primarily by 1) UND fans wanting tickets 2) It's the first home game in 9 months for an NDSU team with a lot of new faces and dynamic new players. Bison fans desire to see UND is, at best, a very distance third if it's much of a factor at all.
homer Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Sure, the price is less for those games. But that's primarily because there aren't many UND fans buying Bison tickets for games against other teams. Which was, of course, the point in the first place. There's no way around it. The increased demand for this weekend's game is caused primarily by 1) UND fans wanting tickets 2) It's the first home game in 9 months for an NDSU team with a lot of new faces and dynamic new players. Bison fans desire to see UND is, at best, a very distance third if it's much of a factor at all. So last years opener had tickets go for the same price? Your wrong about it being only UND fans looking for tickets. Lots of past players, not all played against UND are in town for the Jangula golf outing and I know a good amount looking for tickets. They didn’t do that last season opener.
JohnboyND7 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: So what’s your understanding of why the ticket prices are going for so much? 1. Is it because it’s a big game against a big time (ranked) opponent? 2. Is it because it’s a rivalry game and both fan bases are driving a higher demand 3. Or is it because of high demand for tickets from just the opponents fans? Would you be saying our fans care more about our game with NDSU than the other teams you play that are considered your rival? It has to be because of one of the three reasons, but I guess you can remain in denial. 1. It is a big game. Against a local opponent most would consider a rival. 2. I think having another university so closely with a large number of alums within an hour drives prices up. 3. This goes back to 2, anytime you drop a few thousand more interested parties that wouldn't ordinarily be interested in a product into a pool of customers where supply is limited, that will drive prices up. ---------‐----- The point I have been driving at, is that ticket prices alone are not indicative of a rivalry game. If UND played U of Manitoba in Manitoba in hockey(let's assume it was a game worth watching), I would venture to guess ticket prices would rise as a result of a demand that outsized supply. That doesnt make it a rivalry game. NDSU/UND is certainly a rivalry game. Thats not my dispute. I'm 100% exclusively attacking a point that says "wow tickets are more expensive that usual, clearly it's a rivalry game." That statement is far too simplified.
Popular Post Mama Sue Posted September 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted September 5, 2019 Well it would just seem by the dialogue here... it was and is a rivalry. 5
Teeder11 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 We’ve officially jumped the shark on this thread. Saturday can’t come soon enough. 4
Siouxphan27 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Sure, the price is less for those games. But that's primarily because there aren't many UND fans buying Bison tickets for games against other teams. Which was, of course, the point in the first place. There's no way around it. The increased demand for this weekend's game is caused primarily by 1) UND fans wanting tickets 2) It's the first home game in 9 months for an NDSU team with a lot of new faces and dynamic new players. Bison fans desire to see UND is, at best, a very distance third if it's much of a factor at all. Isn’t your second point true for the first game of every season ?? But yet in this particular years’ home opener, tickets are magically, coincidentally way more expensive than normal. Unless it feels like a home game for UND due to the thousands upon thousands of tickets being sold to UND fans, your attempt at painting the game as not a big deal to bison fans will not have any merit
MrEdway Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: 1. It is a big game. Against a local opponent most would consider a rival. 2. I think having another university so closely with a large number of alums within an hour drives prices up. 3. This goes back to 2, anytime you drop a few thousand more interested parties that wouldn't ordinarily be interested in a product into a pool of customers where supply is limited, that will drive prices up. ---------‐----- The point I have been driving at, is that ticket prices alone are not indicative of a rivalry game. If UND played U of Manitoba in Manitoba in hockey(let's assume it was a game worth watching), I would venture to guess ticket prices would rise as a result of a demand that outsized supply. That doesnt make it a rivalry game. NDSU/UND is certainly a rivalry game. Thats not my dispute. I'm 100% exclusively attacking a point that says "wow tickets are more expensive that usual, clearly it's a rivalry game." That statement is far too simplified. No, it really is just that simple. You're just too arrogant to admit it. 2
Sioux94 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I could actually care less what NDSU fans think at this point. Lets just knock them off, their players would definitely hate us by next year and I'm thinking the rivalry is back on....and nobody could debate. I've had enough of who thinks its a rivalry and who doesn't at this point, I'd rather just talk about the game itself.
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: I could actually care less what NDSU fans think at this point. Lets just knock them off, their players would definitely hate us by next year and I'm thinking the rivalry is back on....and nobody could debate. I've had enough of who thinks its a rivalry and who doesn't at this point, I'd rather just talk about the game itself. Great Can Zimmer zing one into the end zone on the first drive or are we better off starting slow? Last time we scored first and then didn't score again till it was the last score of the game.
homer Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I think we score points on offense. I like our matchup in the secondary. I was impressed with our corners and safety's. I'm most concerned about our dline. I anticipate lots of slants and angles. I think Schmidtty got a good look on how they will block some things up front last week as I believe Butler ran some 3-4. Have to force some turnovers to have a chance. Most importantly. Play to win and let the chips fall where they may. Don't play just to keep it close this year. 1
nd1sufan Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, homer said: I think we score points on offense. I like our matchup in the secondary. I was impressed with our corners and safety's. I'm most concerned about our dline. I anticipate lots of slants and angles. I think Schmidtty got a good look on how they will block some things up front last week as I believe Butler ran some 3-4. Have to force some turnovers to have a chance. Most importantly. Play to win and let the chips fall where they may. Don't play just to keep it close this year. Drake had a true freshman QB that still looked like a HS kid and an OL and receivers that weren't very good. I think perhaps any cormer's and safety's would look good.
bincitysioux Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I will just say this. Get back to me when tickets on the secondary market have an asking price between $300-$500 for games against NDSU's "real" rivals SDSU or UNI. 1 2
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Drake had a true freshman QB that still looked like a HS kid and an OL and receivers that weren't very good. I think perhaps any cormer's and safety's would look good. And the same can be said about NDSU versus Butler!! FYI Drake crushed Butler last season. 2
UND1983 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Butler's tallest starting OL was 6'1". The heaviest was 280 and that guy was 6'0". wtf
nd1sufan Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said: And the same can be said about NDSU versus Butler!! FYI Drake crushed Butler last season. I'm not claiming NDSU is good because they beat Butler. Butler is not very good. They could have scored 80 if they wanted to. They threw the ball 14 times not because they couldn't throw it, but because they didn't have to and didn't want to run up the score. They have a little more a history to go by to prove they are good. UND had a bit more trouble with Drake. UND had 12 points at halftime and poured it on to try to make it look like a dominant effort to try to get some enthusiasm for their program. And apparently it worked. Good for them. A little false hope never hurt anyone.
nd1sufan Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: Butler's tallest starting OL was 6'1". The heaviest was 280 and that guy was 6'0". wtf Zimmerman may have 10 seconds to survey the field then I guess. NDSU probably has not seen an offensive line as powerful as UND's in quite some time. What did UND rush for against Drake? I guessing it must have been at least 300 yards? maybe 400? Especially with a tail back as big as the DL running behind that powerful OL.
Popular Post UND1983 Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Zimmerman may have 10 seconds to survey the field then I guess. NDSU probably has not seen an offensive line as powerful as UND's in quite some time. What did UND rush for against Drake? I guessing it must have been at least 300 yards? maybe 400? Especially with a tail back as big as the DL running behind that powerful OL. Can you ever not say completely stupid !@#$? Ever make a game observation or something tangible that helps the forum? All I did was point out how absurdly small and fat Butler's OL was 3 2
Sioux94 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Zimmerman may have 10 seconds to survey the field then I guess. NDSU probably has not seen an offensive line as powerful as UND's in quite some time. What did UND rush for against Drake? I guessing it must have been at least 300 yards? maybe 400? Especially with a tail back as big as the DL running behind that powerful OL. Was there anything in his post about UND having a dominant OL?
homer Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 44 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Drake had a true freshman QB that still looked like a HS kid and an OL and receivers that weren't very good. I think perhaps any cormer's and safety's would look good. Butler was picked preseason 8th in a !@#!$ conference. Thanks for proving my point.
nd1sufan Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, homer said: Butler was picked preseason 8th in a !@#!$ conference. Thanks for proving my point. Again, I didn’t say Butler was any good and I wasn’t saying NDSU looked good against them therefore they will have a great season. You were saying saying you were impressed with UND because of how they looked against Drake, another team that isn’t very good.
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