2019 Non-UND FCS Thread

[CMSioux]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Didn't realize LA was close to ND

So you think UND was ranked 24th when you look at #16-24? They try to avoid rematches plus it's the NCAA - nuf said. 

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

It's the NCAA - nuf said. 

Yes......#24

True

[UNDBIZ]

Could UND have been the last team in? Sure. In that scenario, UND is still far from the #24 seed thanks to the auto bids.

[Hammersmith]

8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Didn't realize LA was close to ND

Which other first round team was within 400mi of GF? I'll hang up and wait.

 

It's almost like most of you don't bother to read the bracketing guidelines the committee has to work with.

...

Oh wait, it's because most of you don't bother to read the bracketing guidelines the committee has to work with. <shakes head>

[SiouxBoys]

14 minutes ago, ksixpack said:

The fact that the winner of our game plays the #1 seed NDSU identifies either us or Nicholls as the #24 seed.  They were ranked ahead of us and won their conference; therefore we are the #24 seed and last one in.

None of this is true

[Gothmog]

25 minutes ago, ksixpack said:

Look, UND is last team in; Nicholls won their conference; UND does not draw substantially better then most teams.  If UND got the bid I would guess attendance would be about 8000 at the Alerus on a Thanksgiving weekend.  How much can you bid with attendance of 8000?  As the lower seed in the tournament you would have to outbid the other team by a lot to host.  If Nicholls was in the ballpark they would host as the higher seed.  The biding process is part of the hosting process but not the entire part of the process.  We should be happy we are in.

Nicholls drew 8,500 fans for their first round game last year. I don't see any reason to expect that UND should be able to outbid them for an FCS playoff game. It's about attendance and there will likely be more butts in in seats in Thibodaux than there would have been in Grand Forks. At this point, they have the more established FCS program.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, Gothmog said:

Nicholls drew 8,500 fans for their first round game last year. I don't see any reason to expect that UND should be able to outbid them for an FCS playoff game. It's about attendance and there will likely be more butts in in seats in Thibodaux than there would have been in Grand Forks. At this point, they have the more established FCS program.

do they serve alcohol at their stadium...still finding it hard to believe that chaves put in an agressive bid and still lost to nicholls?

[UND1983]

16 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

This....^^^

No it's not that.  We were going to be with SDSU or NDSU regardless.  Nicholls is the outlier team that was going to travel somewhere.  

[ksixpack]

Let's look at this from Nicholls perspective if they would have had to come to UND to play us...

They were ranked higher than us, they went on the road and beat a good team and rival to win their conference, they had a better record than us, they put in a competitive bid to ours, and they would have to go back to North Dakota and play again the following week if they beat us.  Put yourself in their shoes if we were hosting them.  Make sense a bit now?  Can you still defend us hosting?

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, Hammersmith said:

Which other first round team was within 400mi of GF? I'll hang up and wait.

 

It's almost like most of you don't bother to read the bracketing guidelines the committee has to work with.

...

Oh wait, it's because most of you don't read the bracketing guidelines the committee has to work with. <shakes head>

Is anywhere in the lower 48 considered "regional"?

[Siouxperman8]

Was it McFeely that said we’d go 4-7 and looking for a new coach?

[siouxfan512]

29 minutes ago, cpa_guy said:

https://www.dailycomet.com/sports/20181117/nicholls-makes-aggressive-bid-to-host-fcs-playoffs-for-second-straight-year

They refer to us as South Dakota 

[dmksioux]

Anyone know if the REA threw some money into the bid?

 

 

[UNDBIZ]

3 minutes ago, ksixpack said:

Let's look at this from Nicholls perspective if they would have had to come to UND to play us...

They were ranked higher than us, they went on the road and beat a good team and rival to win their conference, they had a better record than us, they put in a competitive bid to ours, and they would have to go back to North Dakota and play again the following week if they beat us.  Put yourself in their shoes if we were hosting them.  Make sense a bit now?  Can you still defend us hosting?

Feelings don't matter. The bid amount does. They bid more. That's the only reason they're hosting the game. 

[dmksioux]

1 minute ago, siouxfan512 said:

They refer to us as South Dakota 

That was an old article.  Nicholls hosted USD in 2017 which is what they were referring to.

[Hammersmith]

1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:

Is anywhere in the lower 48 considered "regional"?

The committee pairs up all first round teams that are within 400 miles. There are going to be leftovers after that that need to be paired up however it works. When you're up where we are, you're normally one of the leftovers. If SDSU had been unseeded, the rules would have required them and UND to be paired up. But with SDSU a seed, there are no first round teams within 400mi of GF. So you go where they need you to. Not to mention that there weren't many unseeded western teams.

[UNDBIZ]

3 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

Anyone know if the REA threw some money into the bid?

 

 

Maybe they offered to forgo their 52% for the playoff game 

[CMSioux]

1 minute ago, dmksioux said:

Anyone know if the REA threw some money into the bid?

 

 

Just wondering why REA would have anything to do with spending money on hosting a game at the Alerus. They bank their money for bi-annual locker room updates. 

[siouxfan512]

3 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

That was an old article.  Nicholls hosted USD in 2017 which is what they were referring to.

Got it, I clearly didn’t read it very closely

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

Anyone know if the REA threw some money into the bid?

 

 

the whole damn community should have pitched in...hotels, restaurants, rea, und, alumni foundation....this game shouldn've been at the alerus to exorcise the spirits of the triple reverse gone bad.  heck even rudy should've been invited back like buckner to say all things are forgiven.

[ksixpack]

47 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Feelings don't matter. The bid amount does. They bid more. That's the only reason they're hosting the game. 

OK your right...we got screwed again...we are the victim again...our AD and entire UND staff is incompetent again.  (sarcasm)

 

[ksixpack]

18 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

Anyone know if the REA threw some money into the bid?

 

 

The REA did not throw any money in and would never do so.

[CAS4127]

1 hour ago, jdub27 said:

Bracket is set. Bids are open. Highest bid hosts. Nothing more, nothing less. Nicholls managed to outbid us. Nothing can be done at this point. All luck of the draw on who you get matched up against. 

UND bid well above the minimum. The staff was confident there were only a one or two teams that would exceed UND's bid. Turned out to be wrong, but again, it's done. Nicholls will be taking a bath to hopefully what amounts to buying a home loss. 

The bid process requires a minimum bid, but obviously teams bid more than that. Also, the submitted bid is only the minimum the bidder has to pay. Once game is done and attendance/total take is known, the actual amount paid to NCAA may very well end up more (maybe much more) than the actual bid.  In short, a $90K bid could turn out to be a $130K payment to the NCAA. So, if you estimate solidly that game revenue will be $160K, you may as well bid the $130K.

[iramurphy]

10 minutes ago, ksixpack said:

OK your right...we got screwed again...we are the victim again...our AD and entire UND staff is incompetent again.

 

Baloney. Chaves put together a very competitive bid. A number of individual Alumni had pledged to augment what UND could do. Had our fans and community kept attendance at 9500 to 10,000 UND might have offered more. Biggest failure has been UND students failure to get behind the team and be part of the success. During the week Chaves and Alumni staff travel the region working to increase support for the program, UND athletics and the University. Cheap shots from people who have no idea what these guys are doing every day get a bit old. Maybe you should have given an extra $10,000. I would bet we were only short $5000. 

[SiouxFan100]

21 minutes ago, ksixpack said:

OK your right...we got screwed again...we are the victim again...our AD and entire UND staff is incompetent again.

 

Correct 

I don’t think we are always screwed and the system is rigged against us. We are in and l am happy. There are some teams that didn’t get in that are feeling terrible right now. I am not feeling terrible!