SiouxFan100 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 We have a fun game to play Saturday. Any insights on our opponent or our team would be appreciated. Any watch parties in Fargo? Quote
Popular Post Irish Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Posted November 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, nodak651 said: We lost a home playoff game over a few thousand dollars. If UND expects to be in the playoffs every year, why isn't it in the football budget to begin with? The bid UND placed would basically allow UND to at least break even. With a 4 million dollar budget, I think it would be wise to spend a few thousand on a home game, because it would help to build hype around town and give the team a better chance to win. And we only have 5 per year as it is! I think the criticism is completely fair here. Even if UND bid at like 110K, most of the money would be recovered by ticket sales anyway. To recap - UND Football has been wandering in the wilderness for over 10 years while the knuckleheads to our south have had unprecedented success. We have had one shot so far at the playoffs and it was a self-inflicted fiasco. Now we have gotten in again after an up and down season. If we put together a full game from everyone we could make some noise. We really need to establish ourselves as a relevant program both for fans and recruiting. We have a multi-million dollar athletic department budget. Yet, rather than bid $20,000 more (it wouldn't have even taken that) we are sending our team that is 6-0 at home and 1-4 on the road to Louisiana to dress in tents. Not a recipe for success. I hear Ira very accurately tell us that we need to support this program with dollars. Yet here I am giving about as much as I can and wondering if any money I give (Captains Club and season tickets in two sports - one is football) will make a difference at all. Winning starts at the top and I am frustrated. Fans have a right to complain. 9 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Just wondering. Would locker rooms rank in the top ten of what will determine who wins Saturday? wanzek playing to his potential could be a top ten home field would rank in the top ten but it is what it is wr need to persevere and overcome Quote
TBR Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Hopefully the guest accommodations will run our guys the "wrong" way. Being referred to as the Bison (could happen)wouldn't hurt either . Quote
Sioux94 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Will they have fans in those tents? 80 degrees on Saturday, I’m sure it would be nice to go into an air conditioned locker room during halftime, this is so ridiculous. Quote
nd1sufan Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Not sure why anybody is overly concerned about this game, home or away. If you watched the Nicholls/SELA game Thursday or followed the UNDFOOTBALL360 guys tweets during the game, neither of those teams deserved playoff consideration. This game should not be close. 2 Quote
bincitysioux Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 2,500 hotel rooms locked down in Nashville for an early season hockey game that is a year away. Football team is camping for a playoff game this weekend......... 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Not sure why anybody is overly concerned about this game, home or away. If you watched the Nicholls/SELA game Thursday or followed the UNDFOOTBALL360 guys tweets during the game, neither of those teams deserved playoff consideration. This game should not be close. Did you see the Idaho St score? We can absolutely lose to anyone. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 I asked earlier- someone mentioned a 50k cap on what the university could put towards a bid. Who decided on 50k? Can this be changed? Any info would be appreciated. Quote
gfNDfan Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 This WAH WAH the whole "we didn't BID ENOUGH" ship has SAILED! Give it up debaters! Chaves threw out a number that should have worked for the current FB fanbase that probably would have disappointed in attendance anyway. It didn't - GET OVER IT! The FB team is going and going to deal with the conditions they're dealt. I'd hope Bubba and the boys wouldn't be prima donna's worried about APPEARANCES or their DRESSING ROOM and sketchy shower facilities and instead maybe take it as motivation to go out and show Nicholls the game is PLAYED ON THE FIELD and WIN! THE WINNER will shower in glory and the loser in shame - no matter if it's in a tent or not. GO F*CKING WIN!! 3 Quote
iramurphy Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: I asked earlier- someone mentioned a 50k cap on what the university could put towards a bid. Who decided on 50k? Can this be changed? Any info would be appreciated. I don’t know where it came from nor who the cap was on but I believe Chaves and Brekke contacted enough supporters to go a lot higher that that. I don’t know final bid but it no longer matters. Chaves and the athletic dept worked hard to put out a competitive bid. He has enough experience to know where the bid normally would need to be. Didn’t get it but not for lack of effort. Quote
bison73 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: I asked earlier- someone mentioned a 50k cap on what the university could put towards a bid. Who decided on 50k? Can this be changed? Any info would be appreciated. UND Fan Members 4,915 posts Report post Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, UND1983 said: Chaves should be embarrassed and reprimanded for such a pathetic bid. 75K.....WTF? Chaves used the max the university could authorize ($50K) and then went out and found another $25K. It is likely that our bid was among the highest but simply wasn’t higher than Nichols. What more did you want him to do? Did you contribute? 1 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 We need the game. A win will make it a lot better! Quote
CMSioux Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, UND1983 said: So you are saying that Hockey in Minneapolis was a factor in Chaves hanging the football team out to dry. Because Thanksgiving hasn't changed in hundreds of years so that's the only variable I can spo Our team has more confidence then you do about winning on the road. 1 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Did you see the Idaho St score? We can absolutely lose to anyone. That's a fair statement considering how this team has played on the road vs at home. 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: Our team has more confidence then you do about winning on the road. Like 20% more confident? Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, gfNDfan said: This WAH WAH the whole "we didn't BID ENOUGH" ship has SAILED! Give it up debaters! Chaves threw out a number that should have worked for the current FB fanbase that probably would have disappointed in attendance anyway. It didn't - GET OVER IT! The FB team is going and going to deal with the conditions they're dealt. I'd hope Bubba and the boys wouldn't be prima donna's worried about APPEARANCES or their DRESSING ROOM and sketchy shower facilities and instead maybe take it as motivation to go out and show Nicholls the game is PLAYED ON THE FIELD and WIN! THE WINNER will shower in glory and the loser in shame - no matter if it's in a tent or not. GO F*CKING WIN!! 3 Quote
Wilbur Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 8 hours ago, bincitysioux said: 2,500 hotel rooms locked down in Nashville for an early season hockey game that is a year away. Football team is camping for a playoff game this weekend......... This is a huge issue IMHO with our fanbase right now. I've been a fan since I left the hospital in the Fighting Sioux onesie and I've never seen the hockey/football line in the sand as bad as it is now. I'll put a lot of the blame on the athletic department for not putting more into football, but at the same time maybe it started when hockey was gifted the nicest facility in the nation and the football team was still getting dressed and lifting at Memorial (That underpass.....scary). I was at the Ralph a few years ago and football players were selling 50/50 tickets and at the same time were bit$hing about how they'd never seen any hockey players at their games or supporting them, etc. I'm a huge fan of both sports. I apologize to the basketball teams/volleyball/soccer. I don't follow them as much. I wonder if it's like this everywhere???? 1 Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, bison73 said: UND Fan Members 4,915 posts Report post Posted 10 hours ago Chaves used the max the university could authorize ($50K) and then went out and found another $25K. It is likely that our bid was among the highest but simply wasn’t higher than Nichols. What more did you want him to do? Did you contribute? Yes, I know. Thus, my question. Which evidently no one knows the answer to. Quote
UND1983 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, CMSioux said: Our team has more confidence then you do about winning on the road. You are not addressing the issue. I don't care about the game itself right now. I am pointing out all the factors that seem to be popping up as to why Chaves skimped on his bid and got beat by a regional Southland school. Hockey in Minneapolis seems to be one, which to me, is a major issue if true. And I think it is true. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 18 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: 14 hours ago, Shawn-O said: Says here Nicholls bid ~$80K last year. https://www.houmatoday.com/sports/20181117/nicholls-makes-aggressive-bid-to-host-fcs-playoffs-for-second-straight-year 7 hours ago, iramurphy said: I don’t know where it came from nor who the cap was on but I believe Chaves and Brekke contacted enough supporters to go a lot higher that that. I don’t know final bid but it no longer matters. Chaves and the athletic dept worked hard to put out a competitive bid. He has enough experience to know where the bid normally would need to be. Didn’t get it but not for lack of effort. We know what the UND's bid was. One could have Googled, Chaves included, to find out what a bid was last year that secured hosting a playoff game. 1 Quote
Irish Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, CMSioux said: Our team has more confidence then you do about winning on the road. Overshadowed by the locker room mess is the fact we are 6-0 at home and 1-4 on the road. 1 Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, UND1983 said: You are not addressing the issue. I don't care about the game itself right now. I am pointing out all the factors that seem to be popping up as to why Chaves skimped on his bid and got beat by a regional Southland school. Hockey in Minneapolis seems to be one, which to me, is a major issue if true. And I think it is true. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. We didn't skimp on our bid. It was a blind bidding process and we put out a competitive bid but got beat. If it was a live auction we probably would have gone higher. How much did you contribute to the bid? Maybe next time you can offer up $10k or so to push it higher but there'd still be no guarantees. I wasn't asked for a donation but I don't run in those circles. 1 Quote
UNDColorado Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 I think it is important to consider that when Chaves put in the bid he, like almost everyone, figured we would be put up against a regional team. Looking at SDSU's past playoff attendance it is safe to assume the bid he placed would have won. Whatever, time to move on. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. We didn't skimp on our bid. It was a blind bidding process and we put out a competitive bid but got beat. If it was a live auction we probably would have gone higher. How much did you contribute to the bid? Maybe next time you can offer up $10k or so to push it higher but there'd still be no guarantees. I wasn't asked for a donation but I don't run in those circles. That crap needs to end. Many on this site are on speed dial from the Alumni Association Foundation and other entities at UND that are looking for dollars. One's fandom or allegiance to UND athletics is not based on what he/she gives and I'd be willing to bet most of the apathetic lemming posters here give nothing. 1 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. We didn't skimp on our bid. It was a blind bidding process and we put out a competitive bid but got beat. If it was a live auction we probably would have gone higher. How much did you contribute to the bid? Maybe next time you can offer up $10k or so to push it higher but there'd still be no guarantees. I wasn't asked for a donation but I don't run in those circles. Obviously the bid wasn't very competitive because we lost. We were competitive out in Idaho State too I guess. Quote
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