NoiseInsideMyHead Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: First off, eat a fat bag. 2nd, he knows what bids go for and have gone for in the past and still came in under. Tried, but your mom was busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Our OL is gonna have their hands full with #55 from Nicholls. Dude is an absolute nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: The Alerus isn't free to use? Really? Thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious. I'm sure everyone on this site needed you to clarify that. .......and I hope you are not insinuating that having a facility that has indoor plumbing, has a roof and has climate controlled settings is a detriment/liability to the bidding process. It was meant as a jab at Nicholls St, who owns their facility, except for the tents and "facilities" they need to rent, meaning their overhead is lower. I'd be really curious to see what the other bids were. Originally I would have guessed UNI would be the only ones to outbid us but wouldn't be surprised if SELA threw out a pretty big number as well considering they are hosting Villanova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, jdub27 said: It was meant as a jab at Nicholls St, who owns their facility, except for the tents and "facilities" they need to rent, meaning their overhead is lower. I'd be really curious to see what the other bids were. Originally I would have guessed UNI would be the only ones to outbid us but wouldn't be surprised if SELA threw out a pretty big number as well considering they are hosting Villanova. I get the overhead part as well. UND's facilities are what they are....which are better than most. Chaves should know those logistics and financials for potentially hosting a FB game at UND....which is different than EWU . Maybe he figured he had this figured out when he submitted the bid. Unfortunately it didn't work out. Would be very interested in all the other bids as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteppenHawk Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Chaves publicly hyped his bid and then had it beat in the first round. Honestly it's a pathetic look but oh well, still a game to play. Point is, less talk more action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Must be kinda hard to make better bids based on our resources. I don’t place much blame on our AD. Seems like we did put out a very competitive bid. Of course I am clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 $15 per expected head in attendance is precedent for an aggressive bid, as James Madison bid $200K to host this game: http://jmusports.com/sports/football/stats/2014/liberty/boxscore/10256 Looks like Chaves came in at about $10 if you project 7,500. Armchair AD here, maybe about $90K would have been around the appropriate number. Not sure how the Alerus expenses would compare to JMU's facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, SteppenHawk said: Chaves publicly hyped his bid and then had it beat in the first round. Honestly it's a pathetic look but oh well, still a game to play. Point is, less talk more action. I believe TM hyped it up in a Herald article I read online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: I believe TM hyped it up in a Herald article I read online. At the fan luncheon Chaves went on a whole spiel about how the playoff and bidding process works and said that we bid more than the minimum. Not saying that he hyped it up like a lock though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Says here Nicholls bid ~$80K last year. https://www.houmatoday.com/sports/20181117/nicholls-makes-aggressive-bid-to-host-fcs-playoffs-for-second-straight-year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, UND Fan said: Chaves used the max the university could authorize ($50K) and then went out and found another $25K. It is likely that our bid was among the highest but simply wasn’t higher than Nichols. What more did you want him to do? Did you contribute? So you are telling me that the AD of the supposed flagship university didnt get this approved ahead of time? Or are you telling me that the supposed flagship university would only approve 50k to bring a playoff game to your campus? I find this to be incredible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, bison73 said: So you are telling me that the AD of the supposed flagship university didnt get this approved ahead of time? Or are you telling me that the supposed flagship university would only approve 50k to bring a playoff game to your campus? I find this to be incredible. Which part? The one where he has a budget to work with? I know fiscal responsibly isn't a required course in fargo but.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Which part? The one where he has a budget to work with? I know fiscal responsibly isn't a required course in fargo but.... Oh please. LOL So your administration didnt think you could pull in more than 50K $$$ in attendance. Hell 8k at 30.00 gets you 240k. Or doesnt your AD know how to make that presentation???? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, bison73 said: Oh please. LOL So your administration didnt think you could pull in more than 50K $$$ in attendance. Hell 8k at 30.00 gets you 240k. Or doesnt your AD know how to make that presentation???? 1. Tickets are only $25. 2. Student tickets are $5 for playoff games, further reducing the average. 3. We'd be very hard pressed to get 8k to a game this weekend between Thanksgiving, the hockey series in Minneapolis, and expected inclement weather. 4. The Alerus charges UND to use the facility and takes most if not all the concessions and parking $ on top of that. The REA might take a cut of ticket sales for a playoff game as well. So I'm pretty sure the AD did make that presentation, just without the incorrect numbers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I just don't get it. Football has a budget in excess of 4 MILLION dollars, yet we lost a home game over, what, about 20k, if not less? This is beyond stupid and it's indefensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CMSioux Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 This board has the most arm chair coaches and arm chair athletic directors in the NCAA. UND submitted a very substantial bid, time and resources were spent getting donors, in the end we were matched up with a team that bet the farm to host a game. The reality is our fan base has not shown that much support for big games and with a 2-game hockey series in Minnesota combined with the Saturday after Thanksgiving the table was set for low fan turnout. Now some are questioning Chaves - if you've ever met the guy you know he's on the ball. Let the trolls do the trolling not our own fan base. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND1983 Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, CMSioux said: This board has the most arm chair coaches and arm chair athletic directors in the NCAA. UND submitted a very substantial bid, time and resources were spent getting donors, in the end we were matched up with a team that bet the farm to host a game. The reality is our fan base has not shown that much support for big games and with a 2-game hockey series in Minnesota combined with the Saturday after Thanksgiving the table was set for low fan turnout. Now some are questioning Chaves - if you've ever met the guy you know he's on the ball. Let the trolls do the trolling not our own fan base. Met him. Doesn't mean he didn't go chicken sh*t on this issue. It was his real first chance to show that something other than hockey matters and he didn't do it. It's the F-CKING PLAYOFFS, a once in every 3-4 year chance to host a game and he didn't go all in in. He put in a calculated bid - that's not doing whatever it takes to support the program. So now they need to fly to Timbuktu and dress in tents. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, CMSioux said: This board has the most arm chair coaches and arm chair athletic directors in the NCAA. UND submitted a very substantial bid, time and resources were spent getting donors, in the end we were matched up with a team that bet the farm to host a game. The reality is our fan base has not shown that much support for big games and with a 2-game hockey series in Minnesota combined with the Saturday after Thanksgiving the table was set for low fan turnout. Now some are questioning Chaves - if you've ever met the guy you know he's on the ball. Let the trolls do the trolling not our own fan base. We lost a home playoff game over a few thousand dollars. If UND expects to be in the playoffs every year, why isn't it in the football budget to begin with? The bid UND placed would basically allow UND to at least break even. With a 4 million dollar budget, I think it would be wise to spend a few thousand on a home game, because it would help to build hype around town and give the team a better chance to win. And we only have 5 per year as it is! I think the criticism is completely fair here. Even if UND bid at like 110K, most of the money would be recovered by ticket sales anyway. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Met him. Doesn't mean he didn't go chicken sh*t on this issue. It was his real first chance to show that something other than hockey matters and he didn't do it. It's the F-CKING PLAYOFFS, a once in every 3-4 year chance to host a game and he didn't go all in in. He put in a calculated bid - that's not doing whatever it takes to support the program. So now they need to fly to Timbuktu and dress in tents. I couldnt agree more. And Im not saying that to bust your chops. You guys made the playoffs and he didnt put you in a position to be successful. You could have been playing at home. If this would have been hockey they would have robbed the vault. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodcon Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just heard about this tent and Green Acres potty and shower setup, holy balls. They shouldn't be allowed to bid a playoff game with those "facilities" for the visiting team, that's not good enough for the second season even if they are working on a solution next year. Supposed to rain there Saturday too it sounds like, that probably won't help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Wonder if UND put in a "calculated" lame-ass bid to host the regional at Scheels Arena in Fargo those years? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: This board has the most arm chair coaches and arm chair athletic directors in the NCAA. UND submitted a very substantial bid, time and resources were spent getting donors, in the end we were matched up with a team that bet the farm to host a game. The reality is our fan base has not shown that much support for big games and with a 2-game hockey series in Minnesota combined with the Saturday after Thanksgiving the table was set for low fan turnout. Now some are questioning Chaves - if you've ever met the guy you know he's on the ball. Let the trolls do the trolling not our own fan base. So you are saying that Hockey in Minneapolis was a factor in Chaves hanging the football team out to dry. Because Thanksgiving hasn't changed in hundreds of years so that's the only variable I can spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDtoGF Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 This is opinion on the tent issue, not upset at Nicholls state or UND, or anyone but the NCAA, read it and let me know your thoughts. https://seamoresports.com/2019/11/26/vent-about-a-tent-und-football-opinion/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Shawn-O said: Says here Nicholls bid ~$80K last year. https://www.houmatoday.com/sports/20181117/nicholls-makes-aggressive-bid-to-host-fcs-playoffs-for-second-straight-year Did Chaves get called on his bluff that the only university of the 15 other universities to possibly host and outbid UND would be Nicholls? Seems from this link their minimum bar was already set at $80K going into the bids for this year. Again we don't know what any of the other schools bids were but we do know $80k >>>$75k + gfhockey's pocket change. If Shawn-O can go to the Google to find this nugget........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDtoGF Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Did Chaves get called on his bluff that the only university of the 15 other universities to possibly host and outbid UND would be Nicholls? Seems from this link their minimum bar was already set at $80K going into the bids for this year. Again we don't know what any of the other schools bids were but we do know $80k >>>$75k + gfhocky's pocket change. If Shawn-O can go the the Google to find this nugget........ A team dressing in tents in the parking lot should be a bar from a bid.. https://seamoresports.com/2019/11/26/vent-about-a-tent-und-football-opinion/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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