Oxbow6 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: It is reasonable the Bison score 38 but I don't think so. UND is better than giving up 38. So you'd put the line around what? Just curious.
Siouxperfan7 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 My biggest concern is how UND is going to handle NDSU's offensive line. they have 2 preseason All Americans in Zack Johnson and Dillon Radunz. Their offesive line is one of the biggest in the country at any level. Getting a pass rush on Trey Lance is going to be pivotal in disrupting his ability to just stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open. Games like this are won and lost in the trenches. Definitely a big challenge going up against their O-line. The Bison have lived on running the ball and sustaining long 7-8 minute drives. If we can win the battle at the line, it will go a ,long way to helping us stay competitive in this game.
homer Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: My biggest concern is how UND is going to handle NDSU's offensive line. they have 2 preseason All Americans in Zack Johnson and Dillon Radunz. Their offesive line is one of the biggest in the country at any level. Getting a pass rush on Trey Lance is going to be pivotal in disrupting his ability to just stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open. Games like this are won and lost in the trenches. Definitely a big challenge going up against their O-line. The Bison have lived on running the ball and sustaining long 7-8 minute drives. If we can win the battle at the line, it will go a ,long way to helping us stay competitive in this game. The pass rush doesn’t concern me as much as when they decide to line up and run right at us. 2nd and 4,5 or 6 is not a good spot to be consistently against that team. 4
Mama Sue Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, homer said: The pass rush doesn’t concern me as much as when they decide to line up and run right at us. 2nd and 4,5 or 6 is not a good spot to be consistently against that team. Well I hope our defense is fired up and plays like the Bears last night (in the first quarter). Then, I read that since the NFL had not decided a National Anthem policy yet (seriously) the Bears linked arms while standing. Do you think Mike Ditka would have allowed that? I started cheering for the Packers. Sorry to bring politics into this... are the Bison and Sioux on the field or do they just stay in the locker room until after the National Anthem? Many college teams do that... 1
Popular Post southpaw Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: Well I hope our defense is fired up and plays like the Bears last night (in the first quarter). Then, I read that since the NFL had not decided a National Anthem policy yet (seriously) the Bears linked arms while standing. Do you think Mike Ditka would have allowed that? I started cheering for the Packers. Sorry to bring politics into this... are the Bison and Sioux on the field or do they just stay in the locker room until after the National Anthem? Many college teams do that... How dare they link arms while standing! There are thousands of fans in the stadium "disrespecting" it even more. Go back to not playing the anthem before every game and this will go away. 7 1
Dustin Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, homer said: The pass rush doesn’t concern me as much as when they decide to line up and run right at us. 2nd and 4,5 or 6 is not a good spot to be consistently against that team. I agree with this assessment. I believe our corners and safeties are capable of stymieing the passing game. But I also think the DL will be outmatched, so ultimately the linebackers are going to be the make or break position group. 1
Oxbow6 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I'm just glad this matchup will become a yearly event. It's good for the state and fans of both schools. 1
Nodak78 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 44 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: So you'd put the line around what? Just curious. I don't think UND gives up more than 28. I think o/u line at 49 is fine. I'm guessing 28-21 Bison. But pulling for the upset. And I think it can happen this year. The stars are aligned.
ND1 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: My biggest concern is how UND is going to handle NDSU's offensive line. they have 2 preseason All Americans in Zack Johnson and Dillon Radunz. Their offesive line is one of the biggest in the country at any level. Getting a pass rush on Trey Lance is going to be pivotal in disrupting his ability to just stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open. Games like this are won and lost in the trenches. Definitely a big challenge going up against their O-line. The Bison have lived on running the ball and sustaining long 7-8 minute drives. If we can win the battle at the line, it will go a ,long way to helping us stay competitive in this game. My biggest concern as well
the green team Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 What is considered a successful offensive game for Danny's O against this defense? X 1st downs, X points? Or Other factors? What would be considered not good enough/needs improvement or a disaster? Curious about peoples personal benchmarks going into a game like this of what woulld be deemed as successful, a step in the right direction, needs work or this is a disaster.
Kassonvike Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I went to UND in the 90's. Two of my most vivid memories of the rivalry was the Mooney strip (I was at the game) and the Kleinsasser TD in which he accelerated away from the NDSU DBs (watched at a bar in Grand Forks). One other fact people might forget is that UND is 4-2 lifetime in the Fargodome :-).
MIBT Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 As I recall the 12 game win streak the Bison had in the 80s and 90s the teams were competitive many of those years. There wasn't a big talent gap between the teams and the 1993 game wasn't a huge upset. It was just the ending of a curse. The Bison finished 7-3 that year and UND was 8-2 (regular season). This year's teams aren't that close talent wise. That doesn't mean UND couldn't do something and surprise everyone, but I would say it's extremely unlikely. UND fans being optimistic and predicting otherwise is fine and expected of fans of any team and Bison fans talking down to them is also indicative of a rivalry. Whether or not the game is competitive has nothing to do with whether or not it's a rivalry. Alabama-Tennessee is a huge rivalry but Alabama has won 12 in a row by an average of 25 points (most were over 30). Alabama has been ranked 1 or 2 in 8 of those games and Tennessee has only been ranked twice (20th in 2007 the only time Alabama wasn't ranked in the top 8 and 9th in 2016). Are these schools rivals? Absolutely. Does that mean the game will be close or competitive? Absolutely not.
Dustin Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, the green team said: What is considered a successful offensive game for Danny's O against this defense? X 1st downs, X points? Or Other factors? What would be considered not good enough/needs improvement or a disaster? Curious about peoples personal benchmarks going into a game like this of what woulld be deemed as successful, a step in the right direction, needs work or this is a disaster. To me, ultimately, time of possession would be biggest factor. Can we be offensively effective enough to possess the ball for 4+ minutes, and keep our defense, especially the run defense players, fresh. This was often our Achilles heal with Rudy as OC. Even if it doesn't end with points every time, because it won't, flipping the field will be an asset. God, I sound like Bubba! But, if we have the ball for that long, that means we're getting first downs and marching down the field. Some of those drives are going to results in points, probably through the air. If we can get our passing game established enough to be able to do a little running, I would consider that a success. And, oh yeah, outscoring their offense
Shawn-O Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, MIBT said: As I recall the 12 game win streak the Bison had in the 80s and 90s the teams were competitive many of those years. There wasn't a big talent gap between the teams and the 1993 game wasn't a huge upset. It was just the ending of a curse. The Bison finished 7-3 that year and UND was 8-2 (regular season). This year's teams aren't that close talent wise. That doesn't mean UND couldn't do something and surprise everyone, but I would say it's extremely unlikely. UND fans being optimistic and predicting otherwise is fine and expected of fans of any team and Bison fans talking down to them is also indicative of a rivalry. Whether or not the game is competitive has nothing to do with whether or not it's a rivalry. Alabama-Tennessee is a huge rivalry but Alabama has won 12 in a row by an average of 25 points (most were over 30). Alabama has been ranked 1 or 2 in 8 of those games and Tennessee has only been ranked twice (20th in 2007 the only time Alabama wasn't ranked in the top 8 and 9th in 2016). Are these schools rivals? Absolutely. Does that mean the game will be close or competitive? Absolutely not. 1985-1990 was quite horrible and one-sided, talent wise and on the scoreboard.
ChrisUND1 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, ND1 said: My biggest concern as well My biggest concern is for the Fargodome custodial staff who need to clean the bizon fans urine and other substances off the walls, floors, seats each game day. Similar to farm animals, they just go when they gotta go, no matter where they are. 4
Gothmog Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Exactly. The extent of their research for this game was NDSU won big last week, they are the defending Champions, they are playing at home, they are playing a team that went 6-5 last year and UN D is starting their backup QB. Maybe I am giving them too much credit. Sure, Vegas never likes to lose money, but there is so little action on FCS games compared to the rest of the NCAA and the NFL, that it is hardly a blip on their radar. 30.5 I think is too high. I would likely put it at around 22-24. You do understand that point spreads are set to equalize betting on both sides of the bet thereby locking in a profit for the house. Other than the initial spread, the spread is set by bettors voting with their dollars. 2
johnsowe Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Do you have to pay to get the game on espn3? I was hoping it be in the directv channels but doesn't look like it
Shawn-O Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, johnsowe said: Do you have to pay to get the game on espn3? I was hoping it be in the directv channels but doesn't look like it It's on ESPN+. $4.99/month.
Oxbow6 Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, Gothmog said: You do understand that point spreads are set to equalize betting on both sides of the bet thereby locking in a profit for the house. Other than the initial spread, the spread is set by bettors voting with their dollars. Exactly.....line opened at UND +26.5. It's now at UND +31.5 meaning bets were/are coming in on NDSU to lay the points thus increasing the spread to try to attract some bets on UND and the points. Obviously looking for a competitive game and hopefully an upset. IMO UND getting 31.5 is way too much. UND should cover that easily.
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: Less than 24 hours now.... This should be a good game, I'll have my first beer about then. 1
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 58 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Exactly.....line opened at UND +26.5. It's now at UND +31.5 meaning bets were/are coming in on NDSU to lay the points thus increasing the spread to try to attract some bets on UND and the points. Obviously looking for a competitive game and hopefully an upset. IMO UND getting 31.5 is way too much. UND should cover that easily. This just shows how Hubris the Bison betting fans are, using Big Lubowski's take here. 1
SiouxForever Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Anyone know the tv options tomorrow? Obviously, it will be on KVLY, how about streaming options? Appreciate any insight.
AJS Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Over the past couple of days I'm becoming increasingly confident that this will be a close game. I absolutely believe that this years UND is severely underrated by just about everyone, which is understandable for those that don't follow them closely. The truth is nobody really knows how this game is going to play out. I realize it was Drake, but I saw nothing in the first game that would make me change course that this is a good football team. NDSU is a very good football team, we know that, but how good? This years version of NDSU isn't supposed to be as good as last years, correct? The scenario I have in mind right now is that Butler is straight up not a good football team. That can lead based on the team they had last year (in which they lost a ton) and the result in week 1, we could see not only overconfidence, but that they overall aren't at that level just yet of years past. By the way some have talked this week, it seems like this is going to be a matchup of the best NDSU they've ever had and the worst version UND has. That's not the case. I'm ready to get this going! Prediction: UND 28 NDSU 24 1 2
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