Own The Farm Week

[Dustin]

24 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

So likely 3 starters out for us, biggest of which might be Holm who is our best corner.  Week 2 and three starters out...freaking sucks.  We need some breaks to go the other way not against us.

I have no inside information, but I have a feeling Holm will play. 

[SiouxFan100]

Let’s play already!

 I hope we play to our potential and get a few breaks and than it is what it is

[CMSioux]

8 hours ago, nd1sufan said:

Drake had a true freshman QB that still looked like a HS kid and an OL and receivers that weren't very good. I think perhaps any cormer's and safety's would look good. 

Cannot understand how the Mods here think allowing SU trolls to derail every UND fan discussion makes this a better discussion for the UND fans. 

[Oxbow6]

7 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Vegas knows something.....

Wonder if it jumped because of Kett not playing or Holm possibly not playing.

Either way, I'll take UND to cover.  

The line with the O/U total puts the score at 41/42-10 NDSU. 

I'd be shocked if UND only scores 10. 

If one is wagering the smart play is to bet the over and UND to cover.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

7 hours ago, bison73 said:

Parents basements? Thats all you got???? 

You overstayed your welcome. Go home have a great weekend. 

[Mama Sue]

8 hours ago, bison73 said:

Parents basements? Thats all you got???? 

No... there’s always the Juice to  motivate players...

[tnt]

8 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

The AG college was considered magically UNBEATABLE for all those years until a goofy defensive player (LOVE Mike Mooney) snatched an interception and ran it back for an improbable touchdown and the tide turned for more than a decade until the bison fled their league for "higher" ground.  Time for UND to stake some claim to that land too!   Maybe not with a win but I think Bubba will put a good scare on them this year.  PERFECT calling card for our entrance into the MoValley next year!   Coming for ya Bizooone:-)

Didn't Mooney rip the ball out of the Bison players arms?

[ND1]

The problem with FCS football betting is Vegas very pays very little attention to it.   Your major sports books usually don’t even touch a FCS/FBS matchup.  I believe 5dimes is the only one covering FCS football and sometimes questionable at that as UND was only favored by 8 points last week.  I assume the line this week and last week are based more on last seasons teams and performance and nothing else.  I doubt there is a lot time invested into FCS football research. 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

22 minutes ago, tnt said:

Didn't Mooney rip the ball out of the Bison players arms?

Then, like with all great rivalries, a turning point sprung from out of nowhere when it was least expected. The incident, which has no doubt morphed in “facts” and detail over the years, is known in UND athletic history as the “The Mike Mooney game” or simply as the “The strip.” In 1993, in the fourth quarter at UND's Memorial Stadium, UND was bracing for its 13 ^th straight loss to NDSU, when suddenly bedlam ensued. UND linebacker Mike Mooney, who, folklore holds was turned down by NDSU in the recruiting process years earlier, stripped the ball from a Bison player and scampered the other way for a UND touchdown and an eventual 22-21 victory over the vaunted Bison.

That game ranks high on Schweigert's list of rivalry memories.

https://www1.und.edu/features/2015/09/und-ndsu.cfm

[CMSioux]

48 minutes ago, tnt said:

Didn't Mooney rip the ball out of the Bison players arms?

Moo U legend says the player was down by contact. 

[Siouxperfan7]

53 minutes ago, ND1 said:

The problem with FCS football betting is Vegas very pays very little attention to it.   Your major sports books usually don’t even touch a FCS/FBS matchup.  I believe 5dimes is the only one covering FCS football and sometimes questionable at that as UND was only favored by 8 points last week.  I assume the line this week and last week are based more on last seasons teams and performance and nothing else.  I doubt there is a lot time invested into FCS football research. 

Exactly.  The extent of their research for this game was NDSU won big last week, they are the defending Champions, they are playing at home, they are playing a team that went 6-5 last year and UN D is starting their backup QB.  Maybe I am giving them too much credit.  Sure, Vegas never likes to lose money, but there is so little action on FCS games compared to the rest of the NCAA and the NFL, that it is hardly a blip on their radar.  30.5 I think is too high.  I would likely put it at around 22-24.  

[Shawn-O]

16 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

Moo U legend says the player was down by contact. 

Tell them Bentrim was also down on "the pitch".  That will usually shut them up.   

[Oxbow6]

39 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Exactly.  The extent of their research for this game was NDSU won big last week, they are the defending Champions, they are playing at home, they are playing a team that went 6-5 last year and UN D is starting their backup QB.  Maybe I am giving them too much credit.  Sure, Vegas never likes to lose money, but there is so little action on FCS games compared to the rest of the NCAA and the NFL, that it is hardly a blip on their radar.  30.5 I think is too high.  I would likely put it at around 22-24.  

I think 38-14 is a reasonable bet with the O/U still at 52. 

[Nodak78]

3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I think 38-14 is a reasonable bet with the O/U still at 52. 

It is reasonable the Bison score 38 but I don't think so.  UND is better than giving up 38.

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

It is reasonable the Bison score 38 but I don't think so.  UND is better than giving up 38.

So you'd put the line around what? Just curious.

[Siouxperfan7]

My biggest concern is how UND is going to handle NDSU's offensive line.  they have 2 preseason All Americans in Zack Johnson and Dillon Radunz.  Their offesive line is one of the biggest in the country at any level.  Getting a pass rush on Trey Lance is going to be pivotal in disrupting his ability to just stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open.  Games like this are won and lost in the trenches.  Definitely a big challenge going up against their O-line.  The Bison have lived on running the ball and sustaining long 7-8 minute drives.  If we can win the battle at the line, it will go a ,long way to helping us stay competitive in this game. 

[homer]

14 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

My biggest concern is how UND is going to handle NDSU's offensive line.  they have 2 preseason All Americans in Zack Johnson and Dillon Radunz.  Their offesive line is one of the biggest in the country at any level.  Getting a pass rush on Trey Lance is going to be pivotal in disrupting his ability to just stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open.  Games like this are won and lost in the trenches.  Definitely a big challenge going up against their O-line.  The Bison have lived on running the ball and sustaining long 7-8 minute drives.  If we can win the battle at the line, it will go a ,long way to helping us stay competitive in this game. 

The pass rush doesn’t concern me as much as when they decide to line up and run right at us.  2nd and 4,5 or 6 is not a good spot to be consistently against that team.  

[Mama Sue]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

The pass rush doesn’t concern me as much as when they decide to line up and run right at us.  2nd and 4,5 or 6 is not a good spot to be consistently against that team.  

Well I hope our defense is fired up and plays like the Bears last night (in the first quarter). Then, I read that since the NFL had not decided a National Anthem policy yet (seriously) the Bears linked arms while standing. Do you think Mike Ditka would have allowed that? I started cheering for the Packers. Sorry to bring politics into this... are the Bison and Sioux on the field or do they just stay in the locker room until after the National Anthem? Many college teams do that... 

[southpaw]

9 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

Well I hope our defense is fired up and plays like the Bears last night (in the first quarter). Then, I read that since the NFL had not decided a National Anthem policy yet (seriously) the Bears linked arms while standing. Do you think Mike Ditka would have allowed that? I started cheering for the Packers. Sorry to bring politics into this... are the Bison and Sioux on the field or do they just stay in the locker room until after the National Anthem? Many college teams do that... 

How dare they link arms while standing!

There are thousands of fans in the stadium "disrespecting" it even more. 

Go back to not playing the anthem before every game and this will go away. 

[Dustin]

15 minutes ago, homer said:

The pass rush doesn’t concern me as much as when they decide to line up and run right at us.  2nd and 4,5 or 6 is not a good spot to be consistently against that team.  

I agree with this assessment.  I believe our corners and safeties are capable of stymieing the passing game. But I also think the DL will be outmatched, so ultimately the linebackers are going to be the make or break position group.

[Oxbow6]

I'm just glad this matchup will become a yearly event. It's good for the state and fans of both schools.

[Nodak78]

44 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

So you'd put the line around what? Just curious.

I don't think UND gives up more than 28.  I think o/u line at 49 is fine.  I'm guessing 28-21 Bison.   But pulling for the upset.  And I think it can happen this year.  The stars are aligned.

[ND1]

43 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

My biggest concern is how UND is going to handle NDSU's offensive line.  they have 2 preseason All Americans in Zack Johnson and Dillon Radunz.  Their offesive line is one of the biggest in the country at any level.  Getting a pass rush on Trey Lance is going to be pivotal in disrupting his ability to just stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open.  Games like this are won and lost in the trenches.  Definitely a big challenge going up against their O-line.  The Bison have lived on running the ball and sustaining long 7-8 minute drives.  If we can win the battle at the line, it will go a ,long way to helping us stay competitive in this game. 

My biggest concern as well 

[the green team]

What is considered a successful offensive game for Danny's O against this defense?  X 1st downs, X points? Or Other factors?   What would be considered not good enough/needs improvement or a disaster? Curious about peoples personal benchmarks going into a game like this of what woulld be deemed as successful, a step in the right direction, needs work or this is a disaster.

[Kassonvike]

I went to UND in the 90's.  Two of my most vivid memories of the rivalry was the Mooney strip (I was at the game) and the Kleinsasser TD in which he accelerated away from the NDSU DBs (watched at a bar in Grand Forks).  One other fact people might forget is that UND is 4-2 lifetime in the Fargodome :-).