JohnboyND7 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 5 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: SU slips a couple hundred and we gain a hundred. Pretty close. Enrollment: Not as close, SU 12,242 ND 13,876 Remember, Chapman's days of him paying tuition to set hock? The fact we felt the need for two "big" schools was a huge oversight for the state. We should have done the Wyoming model and had one "flagship" or whatever. Yeah, we'd lose an annual football game but other than that... would be good for academics. Think of all the overhead we are dealing with now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Yea one big school and maybe three smaller ones would have worked for ND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 6 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: The fact we felt the need for two "big" schools was a huge oversight for the state. We should have done the Wyoming model and had one "flagship" or whatever. Yeah, we'd lose an annual football game but other than that... would be good for academics. Think of all the overhead we are dealing with now. Or we could cut more of the fat with the other 4 year schools in the state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: The fact we felt the need for two "big" schools was a huge oversight for the state. We should have done the Wyoming model and had one "flagship" or whatever. Yeah, we'd lose an annual football game but other than that... would be good for academics. Think of all the overhead we are dealing with now. Fargo refused to accept their role as the agricultural college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: The fact we felt the need for two "big" schools was a huge oversight for the state. We should have done the Wyoming model and had one "flagship" or whatever. Yeah, we'd lose an annual football game but other than that... would be good for academics. Think of all the overhead we are dealing with now. I don't disagree, but in a one school scenario, that school should be other than on the Red River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I don't disagree, but in a one school scenario, that school should be other than on the Red River. Bismarck, anyone? Ala Lincoln, Neb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: Bismarck, anyone? Ala Lincoln, Neb. Bismarck got or chose the State Pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Fargo refused to accept their role as the agricultural college. Duplication of programs is a huge problem in ND and nationwide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Wasn't there a poster a long time ago who stated that UND would becoming nothing more than an online school and the state would be looking to close it down. Wonder whatever happened to that particular poster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Teeder11 said: Bismarck, anyone? Ala Lincoln, Neb. Tallahassee? Madison? http://collegelists.pbworks.com/w/page/143035944/Colleges Located in or around State Capitals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/und-enrollment-up-for-fall-2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 can't wait for a governor to say..."this is insane!' we will have one 4 year flagship university in Grand Forks and the rest will revert back to 2 year schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Not one word out of the Fargo media love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 If any of our nursing home representatives at the state legislature had some balls they would close valley city and mayville at a minimum. When these schools were created was a different time than now. Make Bismarck, Dickinson, Williston, and Minot should be turned into 2 year colleges. Some would say political suicide , but I think ND voters would be onboard! No more subsidies for these small town schools close to the big schools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I understand the sentiment but it's not < snap fingers > easy. Most of the schools are called out in the State Constitution <- amendment process. The only present city not called out by name is Bismarck (and that's one I would keep). And those targeted schools would band together creating a larger east/west political riff which wouldn't be good for UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Is state funding strictly tied to total enrollment? That would be UND: 13,876 / NDSU 12,242? The number that really stuck out to me was first time freshman. NDSU: 2,513 UND: 1,753 On Campus Full Time NDSU: 9,608 UND: 7,664 (or 8,457) Clearly with all the improvements made around campus that there is still very much an emphasis on on campus learning. Hoping to see those numbers tighten between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, AJS said: Is state funding strictly tied to total enrollment? That would be UND: 13,876 / NDSU 12,242? The number that really stuck out to me was first time freshman. NDSU: 2,513 UND: 1,753 On Campus Full Time NDSU: 9,608 UND: 7,664 (or 8,457) Clearly with all the improvements made around campus that there is still very much an emphasis on on campus learning. Hoping to see those numbers tighten between the two. Not entirely, it's based on credits completed (so enrollment does have an impact). There's also an increased funding amount for certain credits, like engineering compared to English. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 "On Campus Full Time" is an interesting one. I would assume there is a large number of students who take at least one or two online class along with all of their in-person classes. Haven't looked through the numbers yet this year to see how that's broken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, jdub27 said: "On Campus Full Time" is an interesting one. I would assume there is a large number of students who take at least one or two online class along with all of their in-person classes. Haven't looked through the numbers yet this year to see how that's broken out. Those numbers are still being compiled by the Office of University Planning & Analytics. Safe to say that UND has a huge number of hybrid students on campus (taking classes both in person and online) in an attempt to finish faster and reduce debt load. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 UND Today article: https://blogs.und.edu/und-today/2022/09/on-the-grow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/21/2022 at 9:21 PM, Sioux>Bison said: If any of our nursing home representatives at the state legislature had some balls they would close valley city and mayville at a minimum. When these schools were created was a different time than now. Make Bismarck, Dickinson, Williston, and Minot should be turned into 2 year colleges. Some would say political suicide , but I think ND voters would be onboard! No more subsidies for these small town schools close to the big schools! It wouldn't be political suicide if the voters support it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Those 4 year UNIVERSITIES started out as teacher colleges. ‘now they are universities make them 4 year colleges and any masters or doctorates would be done in GF and Fargo should only be 2 universities Make the 2 year schools trade schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Go back to the branch campus concept. UND-Williston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Article in Fargo Forum this morning on UND's increasing enrollment. Have not seen an article yet about NDSU's declining enrollment. Guess McFooley is too busy with articles on racism, EVs and 1/6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 7:46 PM, GeauxSioux said: Go back to the branch campus concept. UND-Williston ageed NDSU- Fargo-Dickinson, BSC, Whapeton, VCSU UND - Grand Forks- Williston, Minot, Devils Lake, Bottineau Close Mayville High, obviously... Then close VCSU and Devils Lake..... Then consolidate Bottineau into Minot and Wahpeton into Fargo. Go from 11 to 6 institutions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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