The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 18 hours ago, BigGreyAnt41 said: What blows my mind is how other schools are going in the opposite direction. St. Cloud State was over 18,000 back in 2010. Last year they were at 10,093. Will they even be over 10,000 this year? Based on the link they do a "30th Day" enrollment which works out to very early October for them. https://www.stcloudstate.edu/air/_files/documents/reports/enrollment/total-enrollment/fall-2022-total-enrollment.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Still nothing out of the Fargo herald think it would be newsworthy we are bucking the trend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Still nothing out of the Fargo herald think it would be newsworthy we are bucking the trend Answer key: https://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/27872-enrollment/page/10/#comment-1320839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 As both a congratulation and a stark warning: HS graduating classes are shrinking (it's 18 years after the 2008 recession and birth rates fell drastically in 2008). UND recruiting has done an awesome job but it can't let up as it only gets tougher from here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 UPDATE: Herald is working on a story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 For UND / NDSU, State funding really is the life blood of the University. It would make sense to me that things could snowball (harder to increase enrollment with less funding and vise versa). It really is high stakes every year, you just cannot start a downward spiral. Who knows, but I would almost prefer the Forum not to cover. For the simple reason is out of sight out of mind for alumns that might start putting pressure on the administration of NDSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gfhockey Posted September 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2023 Kennedy did do good work and was the scape goat 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I chat with some NDSU folks and the ones who are on their campus every day have told me NDSU needed (and still needs) a "Schafer and Kennedy." Those two came in to UND as business minds (owner or CFO) and cut the budget where it needed no matter whose sacred cow got gored. They took about $500,000,000.00 of deferred maintenance off the budget books and in the process cleaned up the look of campus and freed up money for new and better projects. We're starting to see the dividends. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, AJS said: ... you just cannot start a downward spiral. See: St. Cloud State (down about 8000 in a decade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Bismarck state had more freshman this year than any school 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodakvindy Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 9:04 AM, The Sicatoka said: Fall 2022 (NDSU): 12,242. Fall 2023: 11,952. Down 290. Yikes. And under 12k. This puts them back to 2003-ish numbers, ... two lost decades. https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/annual/ The nasty in there is freshmen down 11.9%. Makes one wonder if UND's approach (Nistler, Education, Union, new housing, then athletic facilities, call it "student body first") was better than shooting $50M at an NDSU FB facility and still not having raised the $25M to get $75M from the State to replace the NDSU Eng'g building. A school putting academics first, what a concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Teeder11 said: UPDATE: Herald is working on a story. Here's a preview... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, AJS said: For UND / NDSU, State funding really is the life blood of the University. It would make sense to me that things could snowball (harder to increase enrollment with less funding and vise versa). It really is high stakes every year, you just cannot start a downward spiral. Who knows, but I would almost prefer the Forum not to cover. For the simple reason is out of sight out of mind for alumns that might start putting pressure on the administration of NDSU. On the flip side, if I was considering NDSU (would never happen) for myself or my kid, and read that the enrollment is spiraling downhill, I would not have faith in their leadership and not go there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Blackheart said: Here's a preview... Oh! So it will be a short story. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, Kab said: Bismarck state had more freshman this year than any school Does that include high schools taking college courses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: On the flip side, if I was considering NDSU (would never happen) for myself or my kid, and read that the enrollment is spiraling downhill, I would not have faith in their leadership and not go there. Thinking logically, if we do not see a story in the Forum on enrollment numbers, it's because NDSU does not want the article written. You're probably right on your line of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: Kennedy did do good work and was the scape goat Agreed. Kind of a different cat to talk to at times but he had a vision and implemented it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, nodak651 said: Does that include high schools taking college courses? Doesn’t say, you can check out at Bismarck state college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Enrollment at UND rises again; systemwide enrollment is up, too - Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, East Grand Forks news, weather & sports (inforum.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, AJS said: Enrollment at UND rises again; systemwide enrollment is up, too - Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, East Grand Forks news, weather & sports (inforum.com) NDSU's decrease is buried 2/3 of the way through the article. Forum gonna Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 4:32 PM, nodak651 said: NDSU 2023 Fall Summary https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/summaries/ I recall a time where "women were scarce...." at NDSU. Now 51% F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, farce poobah said: I recall a time where "women were scarce...." at NDSU. Now 51% F. Would now be a good time to remind everyone that 60% of NDSU athletic grants go to men? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Would now be a good time to remind everyone that 60% of NDSU athletic grants go to men? 61.5% And 63.3% of student-athletes opportunities (unduplicated) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Would now be a good time to remind everyone that 60% of NDSU athletic grants go to men? 2 minutes ago, jdub27 said: 61.5% And 63.3% of student-athletes opportunities (unduplicated) NDSU should start a D-1 women's ice hockey team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Really need to start women's hockey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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