BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 2018 NCAA FCS Interactive Bracket https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/football/fcs/2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20181118105651578708904&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 9:59 AM, bison73 said: They did have a kicker. As a matter of fact the attempted an XP on their last TD. But it was blocked and PSU ran it back for 2. LOL Their starting kicker got hurt, knob. The next guy didn't have a clue how to kick. Hence, they didn't have a kicker so went for two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 19 hours ago, UND1983 said: Their starting kicker got hurt, knob. The next guy didn't have a clue how to kick. Hence, they didn't have a kicker so went for two. Such an anoxious subject to illicit name calling? I guess the strain of Bubba ball has you a tad edgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 Time to bump up this thread. If we can play good this weekend at Ogden and last two games, we should ratchet up in these polls as the regular season finishes. This weeks polls: FCS Coaches Poll: 22 - North Dakota STATS FCS Top 25: 22 - North Dakota Hero Sports: 16 - NORTH DAKOTA 5-3 Athlon Sprots: 15 - North Dakota (5-3 Independent) Compughterratings: 12 - North Dakota 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Time to bump up this thread. If we can play good this weekend at Ogden and last two games, we should ratchet up in these polls as the season regular finishes. This weeks polls: FCS Coaches Poll: 22 - North Dakota STATS FCS Top 25: 22 - North Dakota Hero Sports: 16 - NORTH DAKOTA 5-3 Athlon Sprots: 15 - North Dakota (5-3 Independent) Compughterratings: 12 - North Dakota AGS Poll: 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/15/2018 at 1:36 PM, Siouxperfan7 said: Dom Izzo's bracket going into the final week, Izzo has made a career of being the ultimate Bison lickspittle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Irish said: Izzo has made a career of being the ultimate Bison lickspittle. last year bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'nHawks Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Looking at STATS FCS poll and it appears losses must be analyzed as the differentiating factor, or at least carry more weight than wins. I removed team names, but kept them in order (#11, #12, #17, #18, #21, #22). Team 1 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 17-37 Team 2 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 18-37, beat Team 3 Team 3 - 3 losses, 5 wins (FCS) against teams with combined record 23-22 Team 4 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 19-34 Team 5 - 4 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 19-26 Team 6 - 3 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 21-23, beat Team 2 Seems UND has recently been a team that carries a couple quality wins to go along with a couple ugly losses so that probably impacts my opinion, but am wondering why it isn't a team's wins that are given more weight. To me, a team that has one or two bad performances but has beaten a handful of higher quality opponents deserves a higher ranking than one who can only seem to beat the lower quality teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, F'nHawks said: Looking at STATS FCS poll and it appears losses must be analyzed as the differentiating factor, or at least carry more weight than wins. I removed team names, but kept them in order (#11, #12, #17, #18, #21, #22). Team 1 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 17-37 Team 2 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 18-37, beat Team 3 Team 3 - 3 losses, 5 wins (FCS) against teams with combined record 23-22 Team 4 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 19-34 Team 5 - 4 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 19-26 Team 6 - 3 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 21-23, beat Team 2 Seems UND has recently been a team that carries a couple quality wins to go along with a couple ugly losses so that probably impacts my opinion, but am wondering why it isn't a team's wins that are given more weight. To me, a team that has one or two bad performances but has beaten a handful of higher quality opponents deserves a higher ranking than one who can only seem to beat the lower quality teams. If there were ever a time to bring out the "Leave No Doubt" mantra, the Weber State game is it. Win and you're probably in. Lose and you're leaving your destiny in someone else's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, F'nHawks said: Looking at STATS FCS poll and it appears losses must be analyzed as the differentiating factor, or at least carry more weight than wins. I removed team names, but kept them in order (#11, #12, #17, #18, #21, #22). Team 1 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 17-37 Team 2 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 18-37, beat Team 3 Team 3 - 3 losses, 5 wins (FCS) against teams with combined record 23-22 Team 4 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 19-34 Team 5 - 4 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 19-26 Team 6 - 3 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 21-23, beat Team 2 Seems UND has recently been a team that carries a couple quality wins to go along with a couple ugly losses so that probably impacts my opinion, but am wondering why it isn't a team's wins that are given more weight. To me, a team that has one or two bad performances but has beaten a handful of higher quality opponents deserves a higher ranking than one who can only seem to beat the lower quality teams. Very good Illustration of conference biases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Best thing about Hockey selection is teams are determined by Pairwise rankings. Love UND Football, but the way the teams are selected is a joke. The fact the UND is not in a conference and will not have anyone in there corner fighting to get them in is a joke. Wish they would use the computer rankings than no one would have a good reason to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Big Green said: Best thing about Hockey selection is teams are determined by Pairwise rankings. Love UND Football, but the way the teams are selected is a joke. The fact the UND is not in a conference and will not have anyone in there corner fighting to get them in is a joke. Wish they would use the computer rankings than no one would have a good reason to complain. I'd agree, but there aren't enough inter-conference games or even games overall to have a true computer ratings system like hockey. And as previously stated, the "not having anyone in their corner" thing is overblown. This year, both the Southland and Big Sky have motivation to support UND as a quality team to help their own conference. And UND didn't have anyone in the room for them last year, yet somehow managed to be in the "First 4 out". Even the biggest UND homer wouldn't have given them that benefit of the doubt. I don't think anyone thought they were even under consideration, let along that close to getting in at 6-5 with some bad losses and an end of season melt-down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, F'nHawks said: Looking at STATS FCS poll and it appears losses must be analyzed as the differentiating factor, or at least carry more weight than wins. I removed team names, but kept them in order (#11, #12, #17, #18, #21, #22). Team 1 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 17-37 SOS #37 Team 2 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 18-37, beat Team 3 SOS #41 Team 3 - 3 losses, 5 wins (FCS) against teams with combined record 23-22 SOS #23 Team 4 - 3 losses, 6 wins against teams with combined record 19-34 SOS #43 Team 5 - 4 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 19-26 SOS #24 Team 6 - 3 losses, 5 wins against teams with combined record 21-23, beat Team 2 SOS #17 Seems UND has recently been a team that carries a couple quality wins to go along with a couple ugly losses so that probably impacts my opinion, but am wondering why it isn't a team's wins that are given more weight. To me, a team that has one or two bad performances but has beaten a handful of higher quality opponents deserves a higher ranking than one who can only seem to beat the lower quality teams. I added the strength of schedule in Bold for each team. So team 6 had the toughest schedule yet ranked lower than the others. ummmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Big Green said: Best thing about Hockey selection is teams are determined by Pairwise rankings. Love UND Football, but the way the teams are selected is a joke. The fact the UND is not in a conference and will not have anyone in there corner fighting to get them in is a joke. Wish they would use the computer rankings than no one would have a good reason to complain. Plenty of teams would complain. When you have 8 teams from the Valley and Big Sky in the playoffs, all those overrated teams in the SoCon would do plenty of bitchin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'nHawks Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Nodak78 said: I added the strength of schedule in Bold for each team. So team 6 had the toughest schedule yet ranked lower than the others. ummmm And Team 6 beat Team 2 Everything points to the "quality" of your losses as being more important than your victories and the strength/quality of those victories. Is Team 6's win over Team 2 helping Team 2 more than it is Team 6??? It's a quality loss for Team 2, but "just" a win for Team 6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Also I think what comes into play is your preseason ranking. If you start the year higher (meaning rated higher as in top 10-15) in the polls and lose you slip down a little. If you start at 22 or not in the polls, you lose and then you are totally out of it and have to work your way back in and have a higher perceptual mountain to climb. Look at UC Davis and EWU where they started the year and where they are now. If the preseason poll and perception of us had us starting the year at say #6 I bet we would be higher right now than where we are, even with the same actual game results. Preseason polls don’t mean much, but yet they do, and they aren’t going away anytime. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: Also I think what comes into play is your preseason ranking. If you start the year higher (meaning rated higher as in top 10-15) in the polls and lose you slip down a little. If you start at 22 or not in the polls, you lose and then you are totally out of it and have to work your way back in and have a higher perceptual mountain to climb. Look at UC Davis and EWU where they started the year and where they are now. If the preseason poll and perception of us had us starting the year at say #6 I bet we would be higher right now than where we are, even with the same actual game results. Preseason polls don’t mean much, but yet they do, and they aren’t going away anytime. It’s pretty simple, it’s confirmation bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 By season end EW will be a quality loss but the bar will be moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxHawkGuy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Yeah I don't know how that guy can have UND at #16 then drop them out of the top #25 after losing to #3 by 3 on the road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Who is the guy and what cred does he have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well if UND would have beat Weber they'd be comfortably at #21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said: Yeah I don't know how that guy can have UND at #16 then drop them out of the top #25 after losing to #3 by 3 on the road. It gives FCS football pollsters zero credibility...zero. You watch that game yesterday and tell me that the better team by leaps and bounds won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: He moved Wofford from nowhere in his poll last week to #11 this week because the beat Mercer(4-6). so far this year Wofford has Not beaten one team, one team with a winning record. what joke. Biased for sure. It might be a southern accent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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