AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, brianvf said: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/11/10_This-Week-in-College-Hockey.php UND is currently #24 in the PWR. The loss to ASU and the tie against UNO are certainly not helping right now. We have two games at home against a #3 team that needs no intro to the Ralph. Come late Saturday night we are getting a much better peek at our fate. Did he cite any data beyond last year? It's math and all so can't be hard to measure deviation from final based on the weekend number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SIOUXELEVENS Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 I know posting this people will say Berry is going no where but let’s look at facts, one NCAA win since 2017 missed the tourney and lost lots of big games. Always the same excuses , gave it our all , didn’t execute etc. poor recruiting , not sure on this because lots of these players were great in jr and they come here and don’t progress , also on Berry. We have a team with lack of discipline , seems like poor condtioning and lack of focus. We looked like a high school team against a college team for most of Saturday night. I have said this before maybe Berry needs to look at his processes and even his staff. The last six years have been brutal as far as winning or not winning big games. Why are we losing recruiting battles and having recuits leave or we cut them loose and they become good players for other teams? Maybe players see what kind of system Berry plays or try’s to and don’t want any part of it. The cupboards not bare yet but Berry may need to change to utilize it. When you have lineups that make no sense to most hockey fans or underperforming players still fill keys roles that’s on the coaching 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 The season isn’t going as planned. ugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxweet Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 I was never a fire Hakstol guy and you can go back through 15 years of posts to verify. We knew what his teams were and what to expect. Slow start and go on a tear to the Frozen Four where the letdown and heartbreak happened. Berry is different and has a track record of either not making the tournament or one and done. Poor performance on the ice comes poor coaching and over evaluating of talent. I think it is clear that he does not think this is one of the top programs anymore as where is the high end talent. Yes he won a title in 2016 but with Hak's kids which included a first round pick. The last time they had a forward who was a first round pick was 5 years ago with Jost. Every time he has had a chance to bring in a high end forward he has messed it up and they went elsewhere. I will reserve full judgment until end of season but things aren't looking good at this point. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, siouxweet said: I was never a fire Hakstol guy and you can go back through 15 years of posts to verify. We knew what his teams were and what to expect. Slow start and go on a tear to the Frozen Four where the letdown and heartbreak happened. Berry is different and has a track record of either not making the tournament or one and done. Poor performance on the ice comes poor coaching and over evaluating of talent. I think it is clear that he does not think this is one of the top programs anymore as where is the high end talent. Yes he won a title in 2016 but with Hak's kids which included a first round pick. The last time they had a forward who was a first round pick was 5 years ago with Jost. Every time he has had a chance to bring in a high end forward he has messed it up and they went elsewhere. I will reserve full judgment until end of season but things aren't looking good at this point. Well said sir and I’m in total agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, siouxweet said: Yes he won a title in 2016 but with Hak's kids which included a first-round pick. You do realize that Berry helped recruit most of those kids, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 True but the head coach seals the deal and Berry hasn’t proved he can seal the deal in high end recuits. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Goon said: You do realize that Berry helped recruit most of those kids, right? Helped recruit and being in charge are not the same thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dden3 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, siouxweet said: I was never a fire Hakstol guy and you can go back through 15 years of posts to verify. We knew what his teams were and what to expect. Slow start and go on a tear to the Frozen Four where the letdown and heartbreak happened. Berry is different and has a track record of either not making the tournament or one and done. Poor performance on the ice comes poor coaching and over evaluating of talent. I think it is clear that he does not think this is one of the top programs anymore as where is the high end talent. Yes he won a title in 2016 but with Hak's kids which included a first round pick. The last time they had a forward who was a first round pick was 5 years ago with Jost. Every time he has had a chance to bring in a high end forward he has messed it up and they went elsewhere. I will reserve full judgment until end of season but things aren't looking good at this point. I am skeptical of this coaching staff too. But in addition to the 2016 title, weren’t we the number one seed in the tournament the year the tournament got canceled at last minute for Covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, dden3 said: I am skeptical of this coaching staff too. But in addition to the 2016 title, weren’t we the number one seed in the tournament the year the tournament got canceled at last minute for Covid? No it got canceled before the playoffs started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, siouxweet said: No it got canceled before the playoffs started. At the time the season was canceled, UND was #1 in the pairwise. That and a quarter will get you basically nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1981 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Denver was low in the standings last year when we swept them at the Ralph. How did the season turn out for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, UND1981 said: Denver was low in the standings last year when we swept them at the Ralph. How did the season turn out for them? I hate to say it but Denver was not dominant when we swept them....we did not have a shot on goal for 10+ mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, UND1981 said: Denver was low in the standings last year when we swept them at the Ralph. How did the season turn out for them? So tired of cherry-picking one team and thinking that North Dakota is gonna turn this around come March. This team has some big-time problems in all facets of the game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 59 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: So tired of cherry-picking one team and thinking that North Dakota is gonna turn this around come March. This team has some big-time problems in all facets of the game. Agreed. And last year's games between UND/DU at the REA were a lot closer than this past weekends. Friday night 3-1 UND win with an ENG. SOG were 23 each. Sat night 4-2 UND win with an ENG. SOG were 28-22 UND. This year's UND team has more areas to clean up than DU did last year at this point in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On the plus side, our PP keeps scoring. Need to find a way to get our 5x5 play much better though. And our defensive zone coverage. And our breakouts. And our etc etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Stayed off for the last few days, just wanted to say we better start having ads with our players if a Bison BBaller has one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Team is currently 4-5-2. On December 11th, if we are not 10-7-2 or better we switch into trying to secure home ice and then win the NCHC tournament to get into the national tournament mode. A home sweep, a home and home Bemidji sweep, and a split at St. Cloud and Kalamazoo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, petey23 said: Team is currently 4-5-2. On December 11th, if we are not 10-7-2 or better we switch into trying to secure home ice and then win the NCHC tournament to get into the national tournament mode. A home sweep, a home and home Bemidji sweep, and a split at St. Cloud and Kalamazoo. Pairwise... this is the bare minimum. It's going to be really troublesome to take a loss or even tie in the next two weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, petey23 said: Team is currently 4-5-2. On December 11th, if we are not 10-7-2 or better we switch into trying to secure home ice and then win the NCHC tournament to get into the national tournament mode. A home sweep, a home and home Bemidji sweep, and a split at St. Cloud and Kalamazoo. Before the season, I would have thought this was definitely realistic for this stretch. Now, I'm not sure we'll be able to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 UND drops to #19 in the USCHO poll. To be honest, I'm surprised that they are still ranked at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I'm an eternal optimist for this team, but what I saw on Saturday was disconcerting. It's happened a lot this season, but was SO bad on Saturday... folding to pressure in our defensive zone. I can't even count how many times we missed the first pass or the chip out in transition to get out of the zone. It was horrendous. Turnover after turn over after turnover. Teams are recognizing (ie. Minnesota, ASU, Quinny on Saturday) that we aren't being poised enough to make that first pass with patience or chip it up the boards. It's incredibly fixable. It feels like a lack of trust and continuity to know where each other's outlet is. We saw it for glimpses against DU both nights -- when we are able to get out and get into the offensive zone, we have the puck talent to create. Still have plenty of hope because I do believe in the players in the room. Plenty of contributors who have done well in the past and plenty of new faces who know how to play the game. The pieces are there. Gotta figure it out and do it quick. We need a get right series against Miami. Two big ones coming. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 A couple of thoughts about the team. They were so bad Saturday that I quit watching when DU scored to make it 5-2. It was painfully obvious that there was no way UND would win that game. It looked like a bunch of 12 year-olds playing. Is DU that good or UND that bad or somewhere in the middle? So I looked at strength of schedule today thinking that we've played three teams in the top five in the current poll. Surely we are number one in SOS. Ah, no. 17. Makes no sense. A home series against Miami is coming at a good time. Sweep and get some swagger back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, siouxfaninseattle said: They were so bad Saturday that I quit watching when DU scored to make it 5-2. It was painfully obvious that there was no way UND would win that game. You made it that far? 2-1 followed by seven turnovers by UND in one zone entry by DU and the remote car starter was triggered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodbuster Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: You made it that far? 2-1 followed by seven turnovers by UND in one zone entry by DU and the remote car starter was triggered. I remember that stretch. It was disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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