RobThomas Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 11:21 AM, TheFlop said: Nothing to do with McKinney, everyone knows that Rudolph didn't know what a screen pass was. Finally found out the truth about the McKinney situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, RobThomas said: Finally found out the truth about the McKinney situation. He's gone. We wish him well. END OF STORY. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlinFlan80 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 hours ago, RobThomas said: Finally found out the truth about the McKinney situation. The truth is he was fast, but that was about all he has going for him. There is a reason when he hit the portal he wasn't highly sought after..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Any reporting out there on camp? I watched the Bubba interview on Youtube, but that was awful. I like Bubba, but there is not substance to any of his comments. Everyone works hard, and is doing what is asked ... it is always the most vanilla interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, siouxfan512 said: Any reporting out there on camp? I watched the Bubba interview on Youtube, but that was awful. I like Bubba, but there is not substance to any of his comments. Everyone works hard, and is doing what is asked ... it is always the most vanilla interview. he should just farm out all interviews to danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: he should just farm out all interviews to danny 100% agree, when he talks I sometimes wonder if he was actually there or watching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 20 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: We get a few of our punts blocked per year. CM Sioux said: Hasn't the other aspects of special teams been pretty good as far a blocking kicks and covering kicks - yes it's a total picture but certainly has improved over the last few years. I thought UNDBIZ's comment of a "few" blocks per year didn't sound right (a "few" to me means 3 or more), so I dug into the stats. Only 2017-2019 stats were available on the UND website, and they did not indicate which type of kick is blocked (punt, place kick). Summary: CM Sioux is correct, UNDBIZ is incorrect. According to the stats, (some) other aspects of special teams have clearly improved in the last few years. Here is the data: 2017 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (Montana St., Sac St.) UND: 2 kicks blocked (vs. Montana, vs. E. Washington) Even 2018 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho) UND: 4 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho St., Sac St., Weber St.) +2 UND 2019 Opponents: 0 kicks blocked UND: 3 kicks blocked (Montana St., No. Colorado, So. Utah) +3 UND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: he should just farm out all interviews to danny Some day he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoSiouxFan Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: CM Sioux said: Hasn't the other aspects of special teams been pretty good as far a blocking kicks and covering kicks - yes it's a total picture but certainly has improved over the last few years. I thought UNDBIZ's comment of a "few" blocks per year didn't sound right (a "few" to me means 3 or more), so I dug into the stats. Only 2017-2019 stats were available on the UND website, and they did not indicate which type of kick is blocked (punt, place kick). Summary: CM Sioux is correct, UNDBIZ is incorrect. According to the stats, (some) other aspects of special teams have clearly improved in the last few years. Here is the data: 2017 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (Montana St., Sac St.) UND: 2 kicks blocked (vs. Montana, vs. E. Washington) Even 2018 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho) UND: 4 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho St., Sac St., Weber St.) +2 UND 2019 Opponents: 0 kicks blocked UND: 3 kicks blocked (Montana St., No. Colorado, So. Utah) +3 UND Thanks for checking it out, as it didn't sound right to me, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: CM Sioux said: Hasn't the other aspects of special teams been pretty good as far a blocking kicks and covering kicks - yes it's a total picture but certainly has improved over the last few years. I thought UNDBIZ's comment of a "few" blocks per year didn't sound right (a "few" to me means 3 or more), so I dug into the stats. Only 2017-2019 stats were available on the UND website, and they did not indicate which type of kick is blocked (punt, place kick). Summary: CM Sioux is correct, UNDBIZ is incorrect. According to the stats, (some) other aspects of special teams have clearly improved in the last few years. Here is the data: 2017 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (Montana St., Sac St.) UND: 2 kicks blocked (vs. Montana, vs. E. Washington) Even 2018 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho) UND: 4 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho St., Sac St., Weber St.) +2 UND 2019 Opponents: 0 kicks blocked UND: 3 kicks blocked (Montana St., No. Colorado, So. Utah) +3 UND You beat me to it, I was going to check out these stats. Other than the quality of our placekicking and punting (which has not been good), special teams has been pretty good the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: CM Sioux said: Hasn't the other aspects of special teams been pretty good as far a blocking kicks and covering kicks - yes it's a total picture but certainly has improved over the last few years. I thought UNDBIZ's comment of a "few" blocks per year didn't sound right (a "few" to me means 3 or more), so I dug into the stats. Only 2017-2019 stats were available on the UND website, and they did not indicate which type of kick is blocked (punt, place kick). Summary: CM Sioux is correct, UNDBIZ is incorrect. According to the stats, (some) other aspects of special teams have clearly improved in the last few years. Here is the data: 2017 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (Montana St., Sac St.) UND: 2 kicks blocked (vs. Montana, vs. E. Washington) Even 2018 Opponents: 2 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho) UND: 4 kicks blocked (SHSU, Idaho St., Sac St., Weber St.) +2 UND 2019 Opponents: 0 kicks blocked UND: 3 kicks blocked (Montana St., No. Colorado, So. Utah) +3 UND Is there a chance our punting has been bad because the kickers don't have a ton of time to get the kick off? Who has the advanced stats to figure out that theory???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 We had a run of amazing FG kicking performance from 1998 to 2009 with Peterka to Glas to Hellevang*. Those guys are top 3 in most kicking categories. (You could argue Zeb Miller and Taubenheim as the two follow-ons from 2010 to 2017 continued the run). I miss that. We need that back. Don't believe me? See page 61 of 156 here: https://fightinghawks.com/documents/2020/9/3/Fall_Camp_Guide_2020.pdf *I'd forgotten he punted also. He's second all-time in average yards per punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, nodak651 said: Is there a chance our punting has been bad because the kickers don't have a ton of time to get the kick off? Who has the advanced stats to figure out that theory???? No. They just haven’t been that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, UND Fan said: You beat me to it, I was going to check out these stats. Other than the quality of our placekicking and punting (which has not been good), special teams has been pretty good the last couple of years. other than placekicking and punting???? not much left after those two very important pieces of the special teams puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: other than placekicking and punting???? not much left after those two very important pieces of the special teams puzzle. There is much more to STs than kicking the ball: assembling the best offense and defense lines, developing a good long snapper, returners, coverages, return schemes, etc. Having a PK and punter who don’t produce are talent issues. If Kostich (someone on here probably knows) has full control of the recruitment of the kickers, then he certainly should be responsible for their performance as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 hours ago, iramurphy said: No. They just haven’t been that good. What years did we lead the conference with ST......need to regain that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Mama Sue said: What years did we lead the conference with ST......need to regain that! Not sure there is such a thing as.....leading the conference in Special Teams. Too many different variables and things to look at to quantify properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlinFlan80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Anyone hear of any dudes standing out at camp (Besides Maeg or Holm)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: Not sure there is such a thing as.....leading the conference in Special Teams. Too many different variables and things to look at to quantify properly. I certainly don't want to lead the league in number of Kick Returns!! Probably not in Kick Return Yards either, but yards per kick return would be good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkoHawks Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Anything newsworthy at practice last few days? Don't have the herald so didn't catch Miller's articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think we have some UND football coming up fairly soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said: I think we have some UND football coming up fairly soon! Yes! Let’s spark up the message board! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 10 hours ago, sioux24/7 said: Yes! Let’s spark up the message board! Really excited! From what it looks like there are some really good tools in place. Hopefully the coaches use them correctly, and actually scheme for other teams (may be tougher this year). I feel like in the past the coaches have had the mentality of "This is our style, we aren't going to change it", the lack of adjustments has cost us games. For me, there are some question marks at QB and RB, only because we haven't really seen much from these guys. That being said, I think there is a ton of potential with Schuster and Vaughn. Hoping both get playing time. Neal has plenty of athleticism too. RB has a ton of potential as well; I know Gee is the veteran and a steady player, but I feel like he lacks in some areas. Skokna has shown flashes, speed shiftiness. Weah has shown his power and worked his tail off to get back on the field; I'm really hoping to see him get some big plays. Mitchell has the speed ... Last time we got excited about a speed guy, he transferred to a D2 school; hoping this one works out better. I think we would all like to see some flashes of a Santiago and big runs. As Miller wrote in one of his articles, WR is probably one of the deepest spots on the team, though we some older players that haven't all had a ton of playing time. Maag, Richter and BB will be fun to watch, but there is plenty of talent both young and old behind them. It'll be interesting to see who steps up. CB should also be fun to watch, and I really hope with the talent we have, we get back to a ton of INTs like a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Also, since this is a free year, what are the chances we see Evan Holm back again in the fall? Guy might have a PhD by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 UND picked 7th in the preseason poll. Put it on the bulletin board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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