NORTH DAKOTA @ Quinnipiac - SATURDAY Gameday NCAA TITLE GAME

[tnt]

As far as how we play, I would take the word of most NHL brass, coaches and former coaches.  Like Andy Murray says, "They play the right way".   You hear that sentiment time and again when referring to UND.  I don't want to make a broad statement and include everyone, but you just don't hear those type of statements about Minnesota.  In fact, you don't hear that about many of the players that play there.  You don't hear they are hard to play against much either, but once again that doesn't include all of them. Jeff Dubay is a phony and has always been a phony.  He had the best job in the world and threw it away for crack.  Then when he had a second chance he threw it away again.  All the while that he was doing crack he was railing on other people for things that they were doing that he perceived as wrong.   Forgive me if I can't listen to someone who wants to spout off about something wrong in a "sport", while their life is mess.  It's called priorities Dubay, and you might want to get them straight at some point, or you'll end up right back where you were before.  

[jk]

To be fair, his situation is just one more example of addiction being something you can't control, or he wouldn't have blown his life up over and over.  As for his message, well, good job living in the past.

[tnt]

4 minutes ago, jk said:

To be fair, his situation is just one more example of addiction being something you can't control, or he wouldn't have blown his life up over and over.  As for his message, well, good job living in the past.

True, but to be railing on people about drugs as he did time and again on his program, while he was doing the same things or worse disqualifies him from being taken seriously in my book.  

[nodakgirl93]

2 hours ago, crb1 said:

I also have no idea what Drake was thinking when he crossed checked Garteig. Drake was called for a penalty and rightly so.

Drake was pushed into the direction of the goalie and with both hands on the stick he brought them up to try to avoid contact. Something you would normally do to brace for impact. But I think the q goalie embellished a little. That's what it looked like to me. 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, sioux rube said:

Came across a whiny rant by Jeff Dubay on facebook. What a complete azzhole. Oh the butthurt. 

Here it is:

Watching the Frozen Four title game and have seen everything I KNOW about North Dakota hockey completely reinforced. They have dynamic talent bordering on overwhelming at times and they are as classless a collection of thugs and assholes that you will ever see at the college level. It's an institutional problem. They're coached to be that way. I've seen former coach Dave Hakstol send a goon defenseman to line up at wing for a meaning less center ice faceoff at the end of a game long since decided so he could jump on and pummel his opponent when the puck was dropped. I've seen a team captain instigate a fist fight in the handshake line. TWICE! Never seen it before or since in any sport. And now I've spent twenty minutes watching them take every liberty possible against Quinnipiac including numerous borderline hits intentionally targeting an injured opponent, going specifically at the injured body part multiple times. They could very well be a couple hours from being the NCAA champion but they are, were, and always will be a fucking disgrace. Fans can troll away, I'm not dumb enough to read your crap or respond to it. I've spoken to coaches and referees from the old WCHA in very candid, off the record conversations and I've heard them say things about that program and the way it's run that are far more critical than anything I've even said.

He is getting North Dakota mixed up with his own team. That was a very succinct description of Golden Gopher Hockey, under both Woog and Lucia.

[Oxbow6]

Was glad to see Gage gave LJ the championship trophy immediately after he got it from the NCAA brass.  Tough to see a kid miss one game all season and Saturday's game was it. LJ had some moments during the season but was terrific down the stretch and in the playoffs.

[Siouxperfan7]

46 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

He is getting North Dakota mixed up with his own team. That was a very succinct description of Golden Gopher Hockey, under both Woog and Lucia.

Love the new avatar!!  Glad you could finally change it from the one you had for years.  I do appreciate you cutting out the guy standing next to you in that pic!!

[neoflex]

Got back from Tampa last night and now back to work this morning (ugh!), with a very hoarse voice (along with many I might presume). Getting back on track here, the Sioux were a lot of fun to watch this year and thank you for finally bringing home the championship that we all here believe has been long overdue. Being in Tampa, I'd like to comment on a few things: 1) Tampa is an awesome site for the Frozen Four. The city did a great job in rolling out the red carpet. Much better than Boston, and from some of the other Frozen Fours that I've been able to attend. Every hotel had a representative answering questions, and the venue outside the arena was amazing and fun. 2) Denver Fans are just assholes 3). Boston fans are assholes on steroids. 4) Quinnipiac fans were amazingly graceful - thank you. I can only hope we acted as such in the past.

Thank you Fighting Sioux for a very exciting year to be remembered for a life time.

[UNDColorado]

Ratings seemed pretty good:

Bill Jones ‏@CBS11BillJones  Apr 10

DFW Saturday Ratings: Masters 7.2 Rangers/Angels 3.42 Duck Commander 3.37 NCAA Hockey 1.4 Cavs/Bulls 1.1 FC Dallas 0.3 Stars/Preds n/a

[Godsmack]

I just saw a picture of Coach Berry holding the National Championship Trophy with Michelle at Darcy's! 

[90siouxfan]

Who is Daby guy, never heard of him.  What an assclown.

[dagies]

2 hours ago, nodakgirl93 said:

Drake was pushed into the direction of the goalie and with both hands on the stick he brought them up to try to avoid contact. Something you would normally do to brace for impact. But I think the q goalie embellished a little. That's what it looked like to me. 

Don't agree.   I have that on DVR, and we watched it on replay at the time.  it was a good call, though I don't think they should have called cross-checking.  I think they should have called goalie interference.   He didn't hit the goalie hard enough for cross-checking, but he never should have pushed the goalie there.   That was a dumb penalty.

I'm sure Dubay is also talking about Stecher's xc on Anas.   That was also not a great decision but it was a borderline call, and if you're going to play hurt don't be surprised if someone tries to check you.  That said, I don't condone (was it Janatuinen) who was clearly caught on replay after the whistle taking shots on Anas's shoulder with his stick.   It wasn't a heavy shot, but it's still over the line IMO.

That said, Dubay clearly isn't being objective here.  Quinnipiac should have been called for far more than they were called for.  QU may have felt like the hockey gods owed them a better outcome (a couple posts, some bouncing pucks, etc. that would have really made this a an, dare I say it, a real Anas clencher) but they did get the better part of the officiating overall.

Other than a couple of things, though, I don't know what game Dubay was watching.

[UNDBIZ]

36 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Ratings seemed pretty good:

Bill Jones ‏@CBS11BillJones  Apr 10

DFW Saturday Ratings: Masters 7.2 Rangers/Angels 3.42 Duck Commander 3.37 NCAA Hockey 1.4 Cavs/Bulls 1.1 FC Dallas 0.3 Stars/Preds n/a

Solid, especially considering the opponent was a team without many fans.

[BigGreyAnt41]

3 minutes ago, dagies said:

Don't agree.   I have that on DVR, and we watched it on replay at the time.  it was a good call, though I don't think they should have called cross-checking.  I think they should have called goalie interference.   He didn't hit the goalie hard enough for cross-checking, but he never should have pushed the goalie there.   That was a dumb penalty.

I'm sure Dubay is also talking about Stecher's xc on Anas.   That was also not a great decision but it was a borderline call, and if you're going to play hurt don't be surprised if someone tries to check you.  That said, I don't condone (was it Janatuinen) who was clearly caught on replay after the whistle taking shots on Anas's shoulder with his stick.   It wasn't a heavy shot, but it's still over the line IMO.

That said, Dubay clearly isn't being objective here.  Quinnipiac should have been called for far more than they were called for.  QU may have felt like the hockey gods owed them a better outcome (a couple posts, some bouncing pucks, etc. that would have really made this a an, dare I say it, a real Anas clencher) but they did get the better part of the officiating overall.

Other than a couple of things, though, I don't know what game Dubay was watching.

That was Wolanin, and he wasn't even hitting the correct shoulder.  But remember that led to a 4-on-4 with Anas also in the box, so clearly he did something to precipitate it.

[dagies]

1 minute ago, BigGreyAnt41 said:

That was Wolanin, and he wasn't even hitting the correct shoulder.  But remember that led to a 4-on-4 with Anas also in the box, so clearly he did something to precipitate it.

Yep, agreed.  of course at the time it wasn't clear, at least to me and the tv guys, which shoulder was the bad one.

[nodakgirl93]

1 minute ago, dagies said:

Don't agree.   I have that on DVR, and we watched it on replay at the time.  it was a good call, though I don't think they should have called cross-checking.  I think they should have called goalie interference.   He didn't hit the goalie hard enough for cross-checking, but he never should have pushed the goalie there.   That was a dumb penalty.

I'm sure Dubay is also talking about Stecher's xc on Anas.   That was also not a great decision but it was a borderline call, and if you're going to play hurt don't be surprised if someone tries to check you.  That said, I don't condone (was it Janatuinen) who was clearly caught on replay after the whistle taking shots on Anas's shoulder with his stick.   It wasn't a heavy shot, but it's still over the line IMO.

That said, Dubay clearly isn't being objective here.  Quinnipiac should have been called for far more than they were called for.  QU may have felt like the hockey gods owed them a better outcome (a couple posts, some bouncing pucks, etc. that would have really made this a an, dare I say it, a real Anas clencher) but they did get the better part of the officiating overall.

Other than a couple of things, though, I don't know what game Dubay was watching.

I have watched it multiple times too. He was pushed into the direction of the goalie. He did not skate in and it the goalie. If anything the Q goalie sold it. 

[SiouxScore]

3 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:

I have watched it multiple times too. He was pushed into the direction of the goalie. He did not skate in and it the goalie. If anything the Q goalie sold it. 

Definitely agree Caggiula was helped in the direction of the goalie and barely made any contact. If they were gonna call Caggiula for the cross check on that the goalie should of got called for a dive too as he was barely touched. Refs let goalie get away with a bunch of slashes anytime anybody was near the net as well.

[nodakgirl93]

3 minutes ago, SiouxScore said:

Definitely agree Caggiula was helped in the direction of the goalie and barely made any contact. If they were gonna call Caggiula for the cross check on that the goalie should of got called for a dive too as he was barely touched. Refs let goalie get away with a bunch of slashes anytime anybody was near the net as well.

Stechers penalty to make it 5 on3 was stupid. A rare one by him. Under 2 minutes in the first with a 2 goal lead. UND was outplaying them badly at that point. But we won so why complain

[UNDBIZ]

7 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:

Stechers penalty to make it 5 on3 was stupid. A rare one by him. Under 2 minutes in the first with a 2 goal lead. UND was outplaying them badly at that point. But we won so why complain

Did he get him with a cross-check?  Sure

Would 95% of NCHC players have dropped like a sack of potatoes upon receiving said cross-check, as Anas did?  No

Would the penalty have been called had Anas not flopped?  Unlikely

Just my opinion.

[geaux_sioux]

11 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:

Stechers penalty to make it 5 on3 was stupid. A rare one by him. Under 2 minutes in the first with a 2 goal lead. UND was outplaying them badly at that point. But we won so why complain

The way Anas was playing can you blame him? I would have done much worse to him so I considered it having good self control on Stechers part.

[sioux rube]

Here is Dubays follow up post. Crack must really screw with ones head.

I knew my post about North Dakota hockey would bring out the hatred from the fan base but I defy any fan to dispute the facts presented in the post. Obviously I editorialized when I called them thugs and a disgrace but everything i backed it up with is factual and unimpeachable. It amazes me that the fan base will forever deny something that everyone indside college hockey has acknowledged for years. North Dakota plays a style of hockey that goes over the line more than any t...eam in the game. But as I also mentioned, year in year out they are absolutely loaded with talent and an elite program by every measure. To be honest, I'm not sure why the fans bristles the way they do when this topic comes up. Again, read the post from yesterday and find a factual misrepresentation. There are none. Embrace what you are, an elite program that plays an in your face style that at times goes much farther than the college game should. Still don't believe me? Hakstol really did send a thug onto the ice in the closing seconds to pound on an opponent. That story is true and it's a disgrace at the college level.

Dubay is a disgrace to college hockey.

[Siouxperman8]

1 minute ago, sioux rube said:

Here is Dubays follow up post. Crack must really screw with ones head.

I knew my post about North Dakota hockey would bring out the hatred from the fan base but I defy any fan to dispute the facts presented in the post. Obviously I editorialized when I called them thugs and a disgrace but everything i backed it up with is factual and unimpeachable. It amazes me that the fan base will forever deny something that everyone indside college hockey has acknowledged for years. North Dakota plays a style of hockey that goes over the line more than any t...eam in the game. But as I also mentioned, year in year out they are absolutely loaded with talent and an elite program by every measure. To be honest, I'm not sure why the fans bristles the way they do when this topic comes up. Again, read the post from yesterday and find a factual misrepresentation. There are none. Embrace what you are, an elite program that plays an in your face style that at times goes much farther than the college game should. Still don't believe me? Hakstol really did send a thug onto the ice in the closing seconds to pound on an opponent. That story is true and it's a disgrace at the college level.

I am really surprised that UND hockey makes it into the top 200-300 things that Dubay has to worry about.  His plate is pretty full.

[Frozen4sioux]

GFhockey > McFeely > dubay

When it comes to rational hockey thoughts.  

Meth dude....Just. Say. NO.

[Oxbow6]

If one has multiple mug shots his/her opinion doesn't account for jack.

[geaux_sioux]

4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

If one has multiple mug shots his/her opinion doesn't account for jack.

Like MLK? Just kidding, kind of.