siouxfaninseattle Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 He stepped into a difficult situation for sure, and had to make tough decisions, which he did. But I don't think he really wanted to be at UND other than a spot on his resume. He came off as a jerk. I won't be sorry to see him go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 My $.02. Kennedy stepped into a tough situation, the road he took to the final outcome of some of his decisions was rocky at best. Cutting sports is the perfect example. The final outcome of those decisions, was always what was best long term for the University. I can't emphasis enough how although unpopular to some, what he did is going to be so valuable going forward. He wasn't the perfect President and he had his flaws for sure, but overall, the University is in a much, much better place because he made the tough decisions. Side note: Remember that weird tough guy routine Schlossman and Miller did when Kennedy first started and he was on a bus tour of the state and didn't return their calls (or give them quotes) as soon as they wanted? It was really embarrassing for them, but that kind of set the tone for at least his relationship with the Herald. It's really too bad, they never seemed to really give him a chance. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Hopefully the next President can grow enrollment. UND sees enrollment drop of almost 4 percent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I'm really hoping this can be a win / win for the University. Kennedy comes in, makes the tough (unpopular to some) decisions and sets up the University for the future. The future President will be able to come in with a much better situation than Kennedy stepped into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 A leader has to make tough and unpopular decisions. A good leader can communicate effectively why those decisions need to be made and why the organization will benefit. The manner in which kennedy opperated included some tough decisions that were handled with terrible competency, repeatedly arrogant posturing and was dickishly ambivalent to the optics of public perception. Its quite ridiculous to lament the loss of someone who leads in this fashion, and worse to feel that a quality individual in the position isnt possible. The flagship institution of the State of North Dakota should expect a competant gracefull leader who can make and explain tough positions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dden3 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: A leader has to make tough and unpopular decisions. A good leader can communicate effectively why those decisions need to be made and why the organization will benefit. The manner in which kennedy opperated included some tough decisions that were handled with terrible competency, repeatedly arrogant posturing and was dickishly ambivalent to the optics of public perception. Its quite ridiculous to lament the loss of someone who leads in this fashion, and worse to feel that a quality individual in the position isnt possible. The flagship institution of the State of North Dakota should expect a competant gracefull leader who can make and explain tough positions. Amen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I don’t give Kennedy a pass because of the budget. What state agency didn’t have to deal with budget issues. You can still grow the university at the same time budgets were cut. A lot of his problems were optics amongst the poor decisions he made. Sort of like our governor with budget cuts but then he is exposed with travel issues and demands for the new house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Teeder11 Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, Cratter said: Barry Horwitz is probably happy to get another chance for Kennedy to give him another job. Longtime Friend of UND President Got $17,250 Per Month Salary for Part-Time Job If they're lucky. He's one of the nation's best in the areas UND needed help in. Another thing that is the norm across the nation but not in small minded N.D. When something like this becomes a major controversy, North Dakota becomes a laughing stock again. Same with airplane-gate (Bresciani) of a few years ago. A lot of passive aggressive back stabbing jealousy masked as humble ahh shucks populism in this region. EDIT: Point of clarification, Kennedy never hired Horwitz initially. SMHS did. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Teeder11 Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, Cratter said: HHopefully the next President can grow enrollment. UND sees enrollment drop of almost 4 percent News Flash: Higher ed enrollment, in general, is in decline. You can surely find isolated cases of increases but generally fewer and fewer people are taking the traditional path through colleges and universities. This is why Kennedy spent so much of his time finding innovative ways to meet student needs to prepare them for the jobs of tomorrow, as well as online education growth to serve job changers, people who needed additional skill sets or training to get promoted and the thousands of on campus students who take online courses on the side to graduate faster. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, John W. said: Posters on this site must be 'perfect'....ie. it's Kennedy's fault, it's Bubba's fault, it's Berry's fault, it's Shafer's fault.... San Andreas Fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackheart Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, cberkas said: Nether one is his fault. It wasn’t like the women’s hockey program had anyone watching it’s budget. Or their games... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets eat Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 UND-FB-FAN for president!! All knowing, most aware. He/she seems to have the answer for everything. Although, he may want to wait until Bubba gets fired as he/she could step right in. Unless, of course, the board from the Alerus can scoop him up to manage that entire cluster they have created. etc, etc, etc!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodcon Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Blackheart said: Or their games... Harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: A leader has to make tough and unpopular decisions. A good leader can communicate effectively why those decisions need to be made and why the organization will benefit. The manner in which kennedy opperated included some tough decisions that were handled with terrible competency, repeatedly arrogant posturing and was dickishly ambivalent to the optics of public perception. Its quite ridiculous to lament the loss of someone who leads in this fashion, and worse to feel that a quality individual in the position isnt possible. The flagship institution of the State of North Dakota should expect a competant gracefull leader who can make and explain tough positions. There's some merit to portions of you criticism, but no one is going to be perfect, especially when making incredibly tough and unpopular decisions. There are also numerous examples where no explanation or communication was going to be enough to satisfy the group think because as whole, people react with their emotions instead of logic. Public perception wasn't going to be based on the facts, particularly when the media reporting it already had an axe to grind. You can describe it however you want, but in most cases, the reactions and "solutions" provided by those lobbing the criticism were laughable at best. Hell, most people probably couldn't tell you a thing Kennedy did except for cutting WIH, closing Ray Richards and bumbling the nickname process (even though he wasn't hear for the decision to drop the Sioux name, the choice of the new nickname or the choice of the new logo). Its telling that there are leaders of multiple other higher-ed institutions that have a much higher profile than the flagship institution of the State of North Dakota who have shown so much interest in hiring MK, yet people here are busy holding a grudge 2 years later about the loss of an athletic team that no one showed up to support all while bleeding the athletic department dry. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 #KennedyForever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Kennedy playing the racism/sexism card on his way out. Huh.... https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/outgoing-und-president-blames-racism-sexism-for-personal-assistant-controversy/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND1983 Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 Sorry Mark but I don't care what color or what gender that person was. The optics on it were HORRIBLE. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 A picture of Kennedy on his way to Colorado... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John W. Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I'd say Kennedy landed 'on his feet'....A 'Power 5 ' conference...PAC 12 member....and away from the 'pettiness that IS North Dakota.'...Hockey is not on the radar, for U of C....CC and Denver have dibs on that 'niche' sport in the state.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Sorry Mark but I don't care what color or what gender that person was. The optics on it were HORRIBLE. The optics were horrible; but the target was easy not being a %gobc member. Kennedy's not right, but he's not wrong. --> Port pointed her out before the other fellow that came into question; maybe ask Rob why he broke the one story first, before the older news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Kennedy playing the racism/sexism card on his way out. Huh.... https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/outgoing-und-president-blames-racism-sexism-for-personal-assistant-controversy/ Anyone here still want to compare Clifford to this clown??? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisUND1 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Teeder11 said: If they're lucky. He's one of the nation's best in the areas UND needed help in. Another thing that is the norm across the nation but not in small minded N.D. When something like this becomes a major controversy, North Dakota becomes a laughing stock again. Same with airplane-gate (Bresciani) of a few years ago. A lot of passive aggressive back stabbing jealousy masked as humble ahh shucks populism in this region. EDIT: Point of clarification, Kennedy never hired Horwitz initially. SMHS did. This post is gold, and exactly what I have been saying lately. A lot of small minded people with big mouths! Happy for Kennedy, and I thank him for what he has done at UND. Like @geaux_sioux wrote earlier, and I paraphrase very crudely: "dude got amazing amount of !@#$ done, but came off as an ass sometimes to people in ND". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Kennedy playing the racism/sexism card on his way out. Huh.... https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/outgoing-und-president-blames-racism-sexism-for-personal-assistant-controversy/ Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Anyone here still want to compare Clifford to this clown??? Guy just called a good majority of the people on this board (and people of Grand Forks/North Dakota) racist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Cratter said: Guy just called a good majority of the people on this board racist. Don't forget sexy, too... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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