gundy1124 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: After game one it looks as though a few of my bolder predictions I was mocked for became pretty clear. Unfortunately kett was pulled only due to injury, but it was clear as day that Zim was a better fit for this offense. Kett seemed slow, tentative and unathletic. Zim is a fast paced competitor with legs. He would’ve been playing the 2nd half of next week anyway in my opinion. This offense is going to rely more on their smaller quicker RBs than JJ. He’ll be good for the goal line TDs, but he just doesn’t have the quickness that fits this offense. Sure he has good top speed but he is FAR from quick. Special teams is improved but still far behind for this level of football. QBs can be up and down in a game.....I wouldn't pat myself on the back after playing a Pioneer League team. As noted by 360, we didn't run some stuff yesterday, and Kett was injured so his 2nd half never happened. I too like how Zim plays. He showed it 2 years back at Montana. He is a double edged sword as we will live and die by "The Gun Slinger Zimmer". Where was Rooney at Center, Holm at Corner?? Anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: QBs can be up and down in a game.....I wouldn't pat myself on the back after playing a Pioneer League team. As noted by 360, we didn't run some stuff yesterday, and Kett was injured so his 2nd half never happened. I too like how Zim plays. He showed it 2 years back at Montana. He is a double edged sword as we will live and die by "The Gun Slinger Zimmer". Where was Rooney at Center, Holm at Corner?? Anyone?? Rooney has a concussion so I expect him back for NDSU. No clue on Holm but hopefully it’s minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 23 hours ago, Irish said: There is only one way to shut up this Bison toady - and Bubba needs to get it done this year. AMEN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: QBs can be up and down in a game.....I wouldn't pat myself on the back after playing a Pioneer League team. As noted by 360, we didn't run some stuff yesterday, and Kett was injured so his 2nd half never happened. I too like how Zim plays. He showed it 2 years back at Montana. He is a double edged sword as we will live and die by "The Gun Slinger Zimmer". Where was Rooney at Center, Holm at Corner?? Anyone?? Holm has a hip injury, they held him out to get him right for next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: QBs can be up and down in a game.....I wouldn't pat myself on the back after playing a Pioneer League team. As noted by 360, we didn't run some stuff yesterday, and Kett was injured so his 2nd half never happened. I too like how Zim plays. He showed it 2 years back at Montana. He is a double edged sword as we will live and die by "The Gun Slinger Zimmer". Where was Rooney at Center, Holm at Corner?? Anyone?? Yea a pioneer team yet we watched kett struggle to even produce 1st downs against them. The offense went stagnant with him at the reigns just like we saw all 2nd half of last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said: Holm has a hip injury, they held him out to get him right for next week. That’s great news. I hope Und can fight off the injury bug this year. So far, not looking like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I feel bad for Nate, but I also feel that if Nate was #1 on the QB depth chart, Zimmerman was 1a. I am completely comfortable with a Zimmerman led offense. Let’s go get it done, boys! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: Yea a pioneer team yet we watched kett struggle to even produce 1st downs against them. The offense went stagnant with him at the reigns just like we saw all 2nd half of last season. 2 drops and a WR tripping on his route will do that. But as mentioned, Zim is a Gun Slinger. He does bring energy to the offense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkbroiler Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: Yea a pioneer team yet we watched kett struggle to even produce 1st downs against them. The offense went stagnant with him at the reigns just like we saw all 2nd half of last season. While I don't completely disagree with this, there were a few wide open drops on 3rd downs that would have been big hitters. They reel those catches in, Kett would have been 21-25 with close to 200 yards (ended 19-25 w/ 152). And we likely have at least one more TD. I would take that for 1/2 a game of football. I feel for the kid. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Nice to get first game done and see what needs improving why the hate for Nate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 We beat drake by a margin that I was hoping for. Thus brings me hope for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Tough break for Nate. The two dropped passes. They were on the mark. First game jitters of the season. Second half much more settled down. I feel for Nate. Glad we finally have a backup QB. Interesting 17 first downs with the pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 hours ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: Yea a pioneer team yet we watched kett struggle to even produce 1st downs against them. The offense went stagnant with him at the reigns just like we saw all 2nd half of last season. The offense struggled. We were rotating RB’s and we dropped passes. We lost momentum but if anyone thinks the offense went stagnant because of the QB watch the game film. You don’t seem to notice what a difference it makes when a RB cuts and misses the seam or isn’t patient enough to allow his blockers to create that seam. We have had too many dropped passes that have killed drives over the past few years. He had the team moving on the last drive before he was hurt. He made good decisions and didn’t turn the ball over. I’m not sure how the loss of momentum in second quarter was the QB. He was part of it but so was Bubba, Freund, the RB’s, Oline and receivers. Zimmerman came in and also got the job done. All 3 QB’s played well. It would be fun to sit down in the film room with some of you folks to learn what I’m missing. We have a long ways to go, but yesterday was a positive step in the right direction for this team including all 3 QB’s. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 hours ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: Yea a pioneer team yet we watched kett struggle to even produce 1st downs against them. The offense went stagnant with him at the reigns just like we saw all 2nd half of last season. What are you talking about? Did you watch the game? Ketteringham did fine while he was in there. Did you see the drops from Wanzek and Maag? Not acceptable. They (receivers) played better in the 2nd half. With all that said, I think Zimmerman played very well also. The level of competition was poor against Drake, but it also was poor against MVSU last year and the offense was awful. So, all things considered, very happy with what Kett, Zim, and Freund did yesterday. UND is in a better place than they were a year ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Kab said: Nice to get first game done and see what needs improving why the hate for Nate? bc he looks exactly like the qb last year...flat footin' throws to pre-decided targets. zimm seemed to look around a little...shufflin' his feet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 We need both kett and Zimm and maybe more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Nodak78 said: Tough break for Nate. The two dropped passes. They were on the mark. First game jitters of the season. Second half much more settled down. I feel for Nate. Glad we finally have a backup QB. Interesting 17 first downs with the pass. The balanced offense of 50% run and 50% pass is dead. Drake wanted to take the run away and a previous coordinator would have obliged and we would have had a 17-7 game. Danny is going to take what the defense is giving. Balance comes from getting your best players the ball in space. I thought Cam looked good. Gordon ran hard, JJ did his thing, and Gee was serviceable. Where was Teddy?? At WR, it looked like the tree Wiseman of Wanzack, Toivenen, and Maag are still the go to guys. Wilde and Boltman were hyped.....but didn't see much from them. TE position still MIA. Still early, need some other guys to step up when their number is called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 if ketts injury is "only 2-3" weeks does bb go back to qb for those weeks or just go with at wr for good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ep92501 Posted September 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2019 8 hours ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: After game one it looks as though a few of my bolder predictions I was mocked for became pretty clear. Unfortunately kett was pulled only due to injury, but it was clear as day that Zim was a better fit for this offense. Kett seemed slow, tentative and unathletic. Zim is a fast paced competitor with legs. He would’ve been playing the 2nd half of next week anyway in my opinion. This offense is going to rely more on their smaller quicker RBs than JJ. He’ll be good for the goal line TDs, but he just doesn’t have the quickness that fits this offense. Sure he has good top speed but he is FAR from quick. Special teams is improved but still far behind for this level of football. I took a lot of heat 3 years ago when I said Zim should have started ahead of Studs and again last year ahead of Ket for exactly the same reasons you've noted above. If you watch closely, when Ket starts his throwing motion, he brings the ball down almost to his waist area and then forward and higher which causes a long throwing motion. Zim on the other hand keeps the ball higher around his chest level and has a much more compact throwing motion which allows him to get the ball out faster. His quicker release makes it harder for the opposing dbacks to close on the reciever. Zim can get the ball in tighter windows and he knows it, so he takes some shots other guys would avoid. His quicker release also let's him hold it just a little longer so he gets a good look downfield and sideline to sideline. Better vision and pocket presence, and gives up nothing on the run vs. Ket. I like them both, but Zim is the guy, and I think we will see that as the season goes on if the coaching staff finally gives him his shot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDtoGF Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Recap of Drake and a look ahead, love Mason and Jaxson off the edge, how this team does containing NDSU in the box is your ballgame imo. https://seamoresports.com/2019/09/01/sound-start-und-football-takes-opener-47-7/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: if ketts injury is "only 2-3" weeks does bb go back to qb for those weeks or just go with at wr for good? I think so. I liked Grover's TD run. Crazy elusive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Highly disappointing to not get the game on the radio in Minot this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said: Highly disappointing to not get the game on the radio in Minot this weekend. UND Radio Network: Grand Forks (Hockey, Football, Basketball) Fargo (Hockey, Football, Basketball) Bismarck (Hockey, Football) Beulah (Hockey, Football) Devils Lake (Hockey, Football) Dickinson (Hockey, Football) Jamestown (Hockey) Langdon (Hockey) Mahnomen (Hockey, Football) Warroad (Hockey) Williston (Hockey, Football) NDSU Radio Network: Fargo (Football, Basketball) Ada (Football) Bemidji (Football) Bismarck (Football) Bowman (Football) Brainerd (Football) Detroit Lakes (Football) Devils Lake (Football) Dickinson (Football) Fergus Falls (Football) Fosston (Football) Glenwood (Football) Grafton (Football) Harvey (Football) Jamestown (Football) Minneapolis-St. Paul (Football) Minot (Football) Oakes (Football) Park Rapids (Football) Roseau (Football) Rugby (Football) Thief River Falls (Football) Wahpeton (Football) Williston (Football) Poor coverage for UND sports over radio. Also, it appears that NDSU games are on generally "bigger" stations then UND games. https://fightinghawks.com/sports/2018/6/7/2048128861.aspx https://gobison.com/sports/2013/4/19/radio.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said: UND Radio Network: Grand Forks (Hockey, Football, Basketball) Fargo (Hockey, Football, Basketball) Bismarck (Hockey, Football) Beulah (Hockey, Football) Devils Lake (Hockey, Football) Dickinson (Hockey, Football) Jamestown (Hockey) Langdon (Hockey) Mahnomen (Hockey, Football) Warroad (Hockey) Williston (Hockey, Football) NDSU Radio Network: Fargo (Football, Basketball) Ada (Football) Bemidji (Football) Bismarck (Football) Bowman (Football) Brainerd (Football) Detroit Lakes (Football) Devils Lake (Football) Dickinson (Football) Fergus Falls (Football) Fosston (Football) Glenwood (Football) Grafton (Football) Harvey (Football) Jamestown (Football) Minneapolis-St. Paul (Football) Minot (Football) Oakes (Football) Park Rapids (Football) Roseau (Football) Rugby (Football) Thief River Falls (Football) Wahpeton (Football) Williston (Football) Poor coverage for UND sports over radio. Also, it appears that NDSU games are on generally "bigger" stations then UND games. https://fightinghawks.com/sports/2018/6/7/2048128861.aspx https://gobison.com/sports/2013/4/19/radio.aspx Ya, UND still has a long way to go in the media department. The fact you cant get the game in Minot, a major city in the state and just a couple of Minnesota areas is just dumb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said: Highly disappointing to not get the game on the radio in Minot this weekend. If you have internet service you can always listen to iHeart radio if you search 96.1 the Fox. Thats my back up if I can’t get TV. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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