SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, UND08 said: It's a gimmick...our "smoke and mirrors" section of the playbook has definitely beefed up over the last couple of years. Gimmicks can work great...until they don't... You know what would make this conversation largely irrelevant?? If we could line up in short yardage situations and consistently pick up the needed yardage by winning up front...but I'm just a no-nothing fan in the stands... exactly.....100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Sioux94 said: When does an updated 2 Deep usually come out, maybe next Monday or Tuesday since next week is game week? Tuesday or Wednesday of game week. Notes and two deep. Next week baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND08 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: exactly.....100% Don't get me wrong...I don't mind having a package for Quincy. He brings a unique skillset, and if you have talent then the team needs to find a place to utilize it. But Tommy Schuster is not the first undersized QB to play the game. We've got a transfer RB who I've heard can pick up some tough yards when need be...it sounds like he should have a role here! I think the biggest thing with Tommy/Quincy is finding the balance between keeping Tommy in a rhythm and allowing Quincy to be a complete threat within his package (ie letting him throw), while not outsmarting ourselves from a coaching standpoint. Sometimes on 3rd and 1 it's best to just line up, knock the snot out of your opponent, take your 3 yards and get ready for the next set of downs. Hell that's what I prefer pretty much all the time, but again I'm just a no-nothing fan in the stands... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I didn't say I like the short term tactic, or gimmicks, but recognize it for what it is. This'll kill @geaux_sioux, but tell me about the offensive line. That'll tell me all I need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, UND08 said: Don't get me wrong...I don't mind having a package for Quincy. He brings a unique skillset, and if you have talent then the team needs to find a place to utilize it. But Tommy Schuster is not the first undersized QB to play the game. We've got a transfer RB who I've heard can pick up some tough yards when need be...it sounds like he should have a role here! I think the biggest thing with Tommy/Quincy is finding the balance between keeping Tommy in a rhythm and allowing Quincy to be a complete threat within his package (ie letting him throw), while not outsmarting ourselves from a coaching standpoint. Sometimes on 3rd and 1 it's best to just line up, knock the snot out of your opponent, take your 3 yards and get ready for the next set of downs. Hell that's what I prefer pretty much all the time, but again I'm just a no-nothing fan in the stands... I think many of us would agree with most all of this. I think we'd all love to be able to ram it down their throats with a regular package with Tommy in. Also I think many of us want to see Quincy run a few plays of the regular offense, it's a bit of a Catch 22. I think Danny is a good offensive coordinator though, and he will make good decisions, although of course they won't all be right. I had pretty low confidence last year that we would pick up a 3rd and 1 by ramming the ball, and I think for that reason Danny used some other types of plays particularly when we got in the Red Zone. Hopefully the OL is a little better this year so we can do just that......ram the ball up the gut and pick it up. If he puts in more passing plays for Quincy this year, he will throw a pick at some point....it's bound to happen. So go on the record now....saying whether or not you want to see Quincy get a chance to throw the ball more so you can't say wtf when he does throw a pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: I didn't say I like the short term tactic, or gimmicks, but recognize it for what it is. This'll kill @geaux_sioux, but tell me about the offensive line. That'll tell me all I need to know. Young, green and undersized at center...undersized but not under-skilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Belquist sure doesn’t look like the skinny freshman he once was. Looks ripped! Would not be surprised if he is the best WR in the MVFC this year! He can only get batter from the last great couple years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND08 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: I think many of us would agree with most all of this. I think we'd all love to be able to ram it down their throats with a regular package with Tommy in. Also I think many of us want to see Quincy run a few plays of the regular offense, it's a bit of a Catch 22. I think Danny is a good offensive coordinator though, and he will make good decisions, although of course they won't all be right. I had pretty low confidence last year that we would pick up a 3rd and 1 by ramming the ball, and I think for that reason Danny used some other types of plays particularly when we got in the Red Zone. Hopefully the OL is a little better this year so we can do just that......ram the ball up the gut and pick it up. If he puts in more passing plays for Quincy this year, he will throw a pick at some point....it's bound to happen. So go on the record now....saying whether or not you want to see Quincy get a chance to throw the ball more so you can't say wtf when he does throw a pick I can live with poor execution so long as it's not reminiscent of a certain 4th and 1 deep in our own territory vs a school specializing in agricultural trades.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Belquist sure doesn’t look like the skinny freshman he once was. Looks ripped! Would not be surprised if he is the best WR in the MVFC this year! He can only get batter from the last great couple years. hope that extra weight doesn't slow him down tho....skinny is ok...just look at randy moss!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said: Lets move on to something UND related. Can UND actually make this 2 QB system work? Until QV2 moves a pile or proves to be dynamic we have a 1 QB system. If it's something other than 90/10 for a healthy Tommy Gun I'll be surprised. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, gundy1124 said: Until QV2 moves a pile or proves to be dynamic we have a 1 QB system. If it's something other than 90/10 for a healthy Tommy Gun I'll be surprised. Don't get me wrong, I want TOmmy to take the majority of the snaps. But we play our first 3 games and Quicy only takes 10% of the snaps, we don't have a 2 QB system. We have a QB that just goes in there to pick up the 3rd and inches. Which is what we had last year. I am hoping and thinking Danny is planning on using him a bit more. I don't want 50/50. I would be ok with 80/20 or at the most 75/25. All depends on how effective Quincey is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Have we seen Quincey pass yet? He hasn’t had the opportunity much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said: Have we seen Quincey pass yet? He hasn’t had the opportunity much. whatever minuses q has with his arm i think might be made up with his "willingness" to run unlike tommy who just doesn't seem to want to run for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: I didn't say I like the short term tactic, or gimmicks, but recognize it for what it is. This'll kill @geaux_sioux, but tell me about the offensive line. That'll tell me all I need to know. It’s a major ? (question mark) The unit lost a player to the NFL, so that certainly doesn’t help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It’s a major ? (question mark) The unit lost a player to the NFL, so that certainly doesn’t help. is donny nfl caliber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Not a huge fan of two qb system whens the last time that’s won anything with substance feels like it gets team out of rhythm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, gfhockey said: feels like it gets team out of rhythm Even little things like snap cadence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Quincey is not an every down FCS QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Quincey is not an every down FCS QB we don't know that....we don't even know what we have with tommy still..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Quincey is not an every down FCS QB Can he catch the ball? Two QBs in on a play makes gadget play chaos for the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sioux94 Posted August 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: we don't know that....we don't even know what we have with tommy still..... What do you mean we don't even know what we have with Tommy? Tommy is an every down FCS QB and has proven it. Doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement though, running a bit more at opportune times....and some more completions 35+ yards downfield......which is probably what you are eluding too......we may not have seen Tommy's ceiling quite yet. This is the year for it! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Tommy I feel like is like studsrud game manager nit built to come back from being down but once up hard for other team to come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: Even little things like snap cadence. Holy cow we agreed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Holy cow we agreed? You can't be wrong all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: we don't know that....we don't even know what we have with tommy still..... Are you already calling for the backup to come in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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