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2 hours ago, Shawn-O said:

Luke S. would throw his name in the hat.  

Why because he is originally from UND? Idaho just lost to Weber State today, much worse team than USD at home . Not saying I hate Luke.....but if he wasn't from UND would he really be on UND's radar? 

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I want someone that wants to elevate their career. I’m not saying a 2 year stay and gone for some low level FBS coordinator but if our coach gets poached to be an FBS head coach, that likely means things were going well. 

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If we do go through a coaching search, I would love to see us draw from a broader pool of candidates than just guys with UND ties. 

Jeff Thorne and Spence Nowinsky come to mind as seemingly good coaches with successful track records and are familiar with the Midwest. No idea how interested they would be, but hopefully we consider those types of candidates. 

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9 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

I want someone that wants to elevate their career. I’m not saying a 2 year stay and gone for some low level FBS coordinator but if our coach gets poached to be an FBS head coach, that likely means things were going well. 

Agreed. At this level of football (FCS), you have to accept (and expect) the possibility your coach may leave if you’re successful. Quite obvious when looking at NDSU over the past 10 years. And there’s no way Bubba fits that category at this juncture.

There are several potential candidates for hire, whether coordinators in FCS or even low-tier FBS schools, FBS position coaches, and probably the most popular would be current division II head coaches who have been very successful. 

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44 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

We need a pool with no UND ties 

Nonsense. Doesn’t matter where they come from. Don’t limit the pool, cuz you may miss the right guy. When the time comes, one of the biggest issues is salaries for head coach and key assistants. 

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5 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Nonsense. Doesn’t matter where they come from. Don’t limit the pool, cuz you may miss the right guy. When the time comes, one of the biggest issues is salaries for head coach and key assistants. 

Been 30-40 years of UND guys.  Crazy to think there may be better options out there right

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18 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Nonsense. Doesn’t matter where they come from. Don’t limit the pool, cuz you may miss the right guy. When the time comes, one of the biggest issues is salaries for head coach and key assistants. 


A major concern is that last time a hiring decision for UND football head coach occurred (2013), the final decision came down to a candidate with UND ties (Bubba) vs candidate without UND ties (DeBoer), and the decision made - in hindsight - was undoubtedly the wrong one. 

No question on the salary pool though; in order to make competitive offers, need to have a salary pool that competes with UND’s primary competitor institutions: NDSU and SDSU. Have to compete both on and off the field. 

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10 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Been 30-40 years of UND guys.  Crazy to think there may be better options out there right

Didn’t say that at all. You don’t limit options. You find the best coach available. That could be from a small college like Sioux Falls with no UND ties for instance, but could be someone with UND ties. It doesn’t matter where they are from it matters where they are going and where they can take the program. 

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1 minute ago, iramurphy said:

It doesn’t matter where they are from it matters where they are going and where they can take the program. 

I agree. And based on the potential pool of candidates, that easily could be someone with no UND ties. The top DII head coaches potentially interested have no UND ties.

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8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

I’ve said this about the hockey roster, I’ll say it about football coaches:

I don’t care where you’re from; I care where you can take us. 

With football, that is 5-7 wins and a first round playoff exit.

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50 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Been 30-40 years of UND guys.  Crazy to think there may be better options out there right

Gene Murphy, Roger Thomas and Dale Lennon had UND ties. Pat Behrns had UND ties, struggled here moved to FBS as an assistant then to Omaha as a head coach a with better success. Bubba had UND ties. There may be better options out there so we don’t limit the pool so we don’t miss best option. 

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22 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Gene Murphy, Roger Thomas and Dale Lennon had UND ties. Pat Behrns had UND ties, struggled here moved to FBS as an assistant then to Omaha as a head coach a with better success. Bubba had UND ties. There may be better options out there so we don’t limit the pool so we don’t miss best option. 

Great names, but UND has only won one national championship ever. There has been, and will continue to be, opportunities for greater success. Need to always pursue greater excellence and not become complacent (which is where I think the program and department currently is). 

UND ties certainly should not be a prerequisite or preferred criteria in hiring process; it limits the ability to find (and ultimately hire) the best candidate in moving UND football forward to unprecedented success. Again, see and learn from 2013 process.
 

 

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40 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Gene Murphy, Roger Thomas and Dale Lennon had UND ties. Pat Behrns had UND ties, struggled here moved to FBS as an assistant then to Omaha as a head coach a with better success. Bubba had UND ties. There may be better options out there so we don’t limit the pool so we don’t miss best option. 

Wouldn’t care if there were UND ties if those in charge of making the hire didn’t give that extra weight, which it seems like they have in the past.  It reminds me of how a lot of people want term limits for Congress, but when it comes to their own state, they are great guys and they keep re-electing them. If things aren’t getting better your term limit is up.

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I looked back at some old threads. There was a poll for Deboer/Bubba and Deboer had the majority on this forum. 
 

If the best person available happens to have UND ties, then hire him. But we can’t have what happened last time, as I feel the fact that Bubba had UND ties had too much weight in their decision.

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