2023 Football Season

[SIOUXFAN97]

On 11/13/2023 at 4:47 PM, Sioux>Bison said:

Lots of farmers still trying to get corn out of their fields and deer hunting have a big impact on attendance this time of year

would having night games help since you can't hunt after dark......unless you own a lifted f150 with flood lights and have a bac of .26?

[The Sicatoka]

16 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

would having night games help since you can't hunt after dark......unless you own a lifted f150 with flood lights and have a bac of .26?

We don’t need details of your Saturday nights. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

22 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

We don’t need details of your Saturday nights. 

u mean @gfhockey ?

[Siouxperman8]

Hunter Pinke's take on Kostich as special teams coach. 

https://x.com/hunter_pinke/status/1723402985328550200?s=20 

 

When is Shawn Kostich going to get the recognition he deserves? All his ST units do is help win games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he’s one of the best ST coaches in the country regardless of level!

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said:

Hunter Pinke's take on Kostich as special teams coach. 

https://x.com/hunter_pinke/status/1723402985328550200?s=20 

When is Shawn Kostich going to get the recognition he deserves? All his ST units do is help win games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he’s one of the best ST coaches in the country regardless of level!

So maybe Kostich should take over when Bubba retires? 

[iramurphy]

Hunter’s perspective comes from a guy who played FB at UND and played on special teams. This is from a man of character who has tackled adversity with courage and distinction. (This will not sit well with those who are not in the “arena”.  Those “who point out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better”).

Hunter’s place “shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat”.  (Apologies to Teddy Roosevelt). 

 Hunter’s perspective comes from his personal experience.  It is different than the perspective of those whose experience is from the outside looking in.  

[UND-FB-FAN]

10 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said:

Hunter Pinke's take on Kostich as special teams coach. 

https://x.com/hunter_pinke/status/1723402985328550200?s=20 

 

When is Shawn Kostich going to get the recognition he deserves? All his ST units do is help win games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he’s one of the best ST coaches in the country regardless of level!

Shawn Kostich is a good coach. He’s not the issue with the program.
 

The “leaders” of this program aren’t getting the job done, so we all know who’s been deficient in that regard. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

8 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Hunter’s perspective comes from a guy who played FB at UND and played on special teams. This is from a man of character who has tackled adversity with courage and distinction. (This will not sit well with those who are not in the “arena”.  Those “who point out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better”).

Hunter’s place “shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat”.  (Apologies to Teddy Roosevelt). 

 Hunter’s perspective comes from his personal experience.  It is different than the perspective of those whose experience is from the outside looking in.  

You hit an obvious (but good) point. When the season is over, what will the current players say is the reason this team failed to capture the momentum and capitalize after the NDSU win? That inside perspective will be most valuable for Chaves … 

A debrief, or end-of-season review, as you’d say. 

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

You hit an obvious (but good) point. When the season is over, what will the current players say is the reason this team failed to capture the momentum and capitalize after the NDSU win? That inside perspective will be most valuable for Chaves … 

A debrief, or end-of-season review, as you’d say. 

You are correct. Every organization must do a self reflection on a regular basis regarding what went well and why, and then how to improve on the strengths of the organization moving forward. They must also review where goals weren’t met, where the organization failed and why. 
The administration, the coaches and especially the players must do an honest self reflection.  Players need to hold themselves accountable and along with the coaching staff outline a plan to improve in every facet of their game on the field, off the field, on the practice field, the film room and in the classroom. 
The coaching staff as a team and individually need to do the same. 
Admin also must self reflect. Do these coaches and players have the necessary resources to be Champions?  If not admin needs to move the program forward. They have to continue to improve what we do well and strengthen our weaknesses. 
Every year they must evaluate and decide if we not only have the necessary resources but do we have the right people in place to manage those resources to move the program to the conference and national championship level we all want for UND. That will require the tough decisions regarding personnel. If and when changes are made that change must be managed to minimize disruption to the University, to staff, to players, to the program and to us as fans. It’s complicated and difficult. 

I believe we have the talent to have won the USD game and it’s a game we should have won. There are no excuses for UNI and USD and I know they are good teams. If we play mistake free, we can compete with SDSU ( on any given day).
It’s frustrating when we are so close, but are inconsistent.  If we can win Saturday, and are fortunate enough to make the playoffs, we are good enough to be competitive against even the best.  At this point in the season nothing matters except Saturday’s game. The rest (including my opinion) is just noise from the outside looking in.  We can sort out blame and accountability after the season. 

[Kab]

Hoping the students show up 

need a lot of fans and noise on Saturday 

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, Kab said:

Hoping the students show up 

need a lot of fans and noise on Saturday 

Doubt it. Team lost all traction in iowa

[HoopsFan03]

2 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Doubt it. Team lost all traction in iowa

Plus there is home hockey. All the students will be getting ready for that

[gfhockey]

1 minute ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Plus there is home hockey. All the students will be getting ready for that

And hunting

[Irish]

56 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

You are correct. Every organization must do a self reflection on a regular basis regarding what went well and why, and then how to improve on the strengths of the organization moving forward. They must also review where goals weren’t met, where the organization failed and why. 
The administration, the coaches and especially the players must do an honest self reflection.  Players need to hold themselves accountable and along with the coaching staff outline a plan to improve in every facet of their game on the field, off the field, on the practice field, the film room and in the classroom. 
The coaching staff as a team and individually need to do the same. 
Admin also must self reflect. Do these coaches and players have the necessary resources to be Champions?  If not admin needs to move the program forward. They have to continue to improve what we do well and strengthen our weaknesses. 
Every year they must evaluate and decide if we not only have the necessary resources but do we have the right people in place to manage those resources to move the program to the conference and national championship level we all want for UND. That will require the tough decisions regarding personnel. If and when changes are made that change must be managed to minimize disruption to the University, to staff, to players, to the program and to us as fans. It’s complicated and difficult. 

I believe we have the talent to have won the USD game and it’s a game we should have won. There are no excuses for UNI and USD and I know they are good teams. If we play mistake free, we can compete with SDSU ( on any given day).
It’s frustrating when we are so close, but are inconsistent.  If we can win Saturday, and are fortunate enough to make the playoffs, we are good enough to be competitive against even the best.  At this point in the season nothing matters except Saturday’s game. The rest (including my opinion) is just noise from the outside looking in.  We can sort out blame and accountability after the season. 

You are 100% correct that this is the process every team (and organization) needs to do.  The main issue with us is that we have the same group doing the review that did it in 2021 (after a 5-6 season and the Bison game debacle) and concluded that even though Bubba's contract wasn't up that the best thing to do was give him an extension.  

[fightingsioux4life]

4 minutes ago, Irish said:

You are 100% correct that this is the process every team (and organization) needs to do.  The main issue with us is that we have the same group doing the review that did it in 2021 (after a 5-6 season and the Bison game debacle) and concluded that even though Bubba's contract wasn't up that the best thing to do was give him an extension.  

Bubba has not earned a contract extension. I honestly hope Chaves isn't working on one as we speak.

[iramurphy]

2 hours ago, Irish said:

You are 100% correct that this is the process every team (and organization) needs to do.  The main issue with us is that we have the same group doing the review that did it in 2021 (after a 5-6 season and the Bison game debacle) and concluded that even though Bubba's contract wasn't up that the best thing to do was give him an extension.  

I understand your point. But that ship has sailed and we need to go from here. I don’t know what the future holds but my guess is if we win Sat and make the playoffs we won’t buyout the contract. If we lose Sat all bets are off and your guess is as good as mine. 

[Oxbow6]

44 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I understand your point. But that ship has sailed and we need to go from here. I don’t know what the future holds but my guess is if we win Sat and make the playoffs we won’t buyout the contract. If we lose Sat all bets are off and your guess is as good as mine. 

If UND loses Saturday and misses playoffs but NDSU wins and makes playoffs is the UND FB fan base happy with the season because at least UND beat NDSU? I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

If UND loses Saturday and misses playoffs but NDSU wins and makes playoffs is the UND FB fan base happy with the season because at least UND beat NDSU? I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

Heck no!

[iramurphy]

35 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

If UND loses Saturday and misses playoffs but NDSU wins and makes playoffs is the UND FB fan base happy with the season because at least UND beat NDSU? I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

Duckies and bunnies?  I guess one could wonder where the pissants crowd fits into this if we want to get back to the middle school type crap. 

 In my opinion, and amongst the fans I usually interact with, the short answer is hell no they aren’t happy nor satisfied with this season.  At the bare minimum, most fans want to at least make the playoffs.  I think we have enough talent to have been at least 8-3 and hosting a first round playoff game and contending for a championship. Having said that, it’s just my opinion from the outside looking in. If we are 7-4 and don’t make the playoffs it’s our own fault. 

[UND1983]

if we don't make the playoffs this season will be a complete failure

[90siouxfan]

would everyone that is happy with the season raise your hand?  

 

NDSU win is a cherry on top of a turd sandwich.

[jdub27]

59 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I know where the duckies and bunnies crowd fits into this but what about those within the realistic UND fan base over the past decade?

Really curious who this "crowd" actually is? The casual fan that shows up to one game a year (NDSU or SDSU)?
Not sure I've talked to a single person who hasn't been frustrated or confused on the regression since the NDSU game. They show flashes of that on offense and defense at different times and then proceed to just find ways to do things that make no sense.

[Oxbow6]

Same Herder likes UND and UNI on Saturday. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

21 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said:

Hunter Pinke's take on Kostich as special teams coach. 

https://x.com/hunter_pinke/status/1723402985328550200?s=20 

 

When is Shawn Kostich going to get the recognition he deserves? All his ST units do is help win games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he’s one of the best ST coaches in the country regardless of level!

get a grip hunter.

[iramurphy]

28 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

get a grip hunter.

Says not the man in the “arena” but from one of “those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat”.  

If you would stop these moronic comments and just state your opinion there can be reasonable discussion or debate. Hunter stated his opinion. State yours without the moronic comment. I would say Hunter has proven beyond a doubt he has a firm grip.