Oxbow6 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 11 hours ago, CMSioux said: It hasn't been that long ago that we had starting QBs that could not consistently hit 5 yard throws or swing passes. At least those are automatic now. This would be Quincy but at least he could get UND a yard on a QB sneak.........oh wait. Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Ok one final thought. Our 4 yard pass machine has scored : 10, 13 and 21 points so far in MVFC. That’s a shade less than 15 points a game. 15 points would have won ZERO MVFC conference games so far this season. Have the best offensive mind you know watch the NDSU, USD and SIU games evaluating the offense and the qb play in particular. With Tommy in the game, D coordinators can’t wait to get to Saturday. The film doesn’t lie. Breakdown the film and send it to Danny. I'm he is waiting. Maybe they will bring you in as QB coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 44 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Breakdown the film and send it to Danny. I'm he is waiting. Maybe they will bring you in as QB coach. No need, UND is scoring points at will. The 5.5 yards per pass attempt is keeping opposing DC up at night. If you can find a way to stop us scoring points through the air, Tommy will torch us with his legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: I was just pointing out that if one is going to attempt to include dropped passes in a an stat line that ballls that probably should NOT have been caught should also be considered. I rewatched the game and there were 3 catches that were far beyond ordinary. The posters in this board are largely frustrated because UND has lost 3 consecutive games it should/could have won against likely top 10/20 competition. My point is in today’s football, the QB is key, and IMO our QB makes it easier to defend UND than any other QB we have faced during that 3 game span. Should not have been caught based on what? The WR Madden rating? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: No need, UND is scoring points at will. The 5.5 yards per pass attempt is keeping opposing DC up at night. If you can find a way to stop us scoring points through the air, Tommy will torch us with his legs. yes but. How do you really feel? We have no idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 What'd I say last week? Show up to score 30+ or stay home. I truly believe Bubba is afraid to score 30+ points in a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Tommy threw a dime for being pressured pretty heavily only about a half a second after the ball was snapped. Did he have time to check down to multiple receivers? Kinda doubt it. Not sure what more you could ask of him on a play like this, on thrid down, with two linebackers standing on the 20 yard line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 That throw by Tommy: - 30 yards (90 feet) downfield - from near hash to far sideline (100 feet) - basic throwing motion (no wind-up step-up) A little Pythagorean triangle math says that was a 135 foot throw (45 yards), no wind-up, under pressure, into a bucket. Wish my arm was that "weak" ... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 https://undfootball360.com/und-drops-another-tight-one-down-in-carbondale/ Some interesting words on the Otis situation towards the end of the write-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: https://undfootball360.com/und-drops-another-tight-one-down-in-carbondale/ Some interesting words on the Otis situation towards the end of the write-up. seems like the wants to be a high schooler the rest of his life....(otis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: https://undfootball360.com/und-drops-another-tight-one-down-in-carbondale/ Some interesting words on the Otis situation towards the end of the write-up. He put it very well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Otis is following the path blazed by Grady. Hopefully I. Smith is healthy enough to pick up the pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hammersmith Posted October 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, TBR said: Otis is following the path blazed by Grady. Hopefully I. Smith is healthy enough to pick up the pieces. Assuming what Bubba said in his press conference today is true, the blame for this rests equally between Bubba and Otis. It's an example of poor communication at work. What Bubba said today: Otis was ill for the first half of the week and wasn't able to practice with the team. The coaches chose to bring the players that had practiced and were prepared for the game(remember that there are practical roster limits on away games - bring the players that give you the best chance to win). This is a perfectly legitimate reason to leave Otis at home. And if Otis's illness was gastro-intestinal or anything else that can pass quickly, it would make sense that he would be feeling good enough to watch his brother's game on Friday night and that it wouldn't hurt his recovery for him to be there. Bubba's mistake came Friday or Saturday when he announced Otis wasn't going to play due to illness. The inference of his statement was that Otis was currently ill at the time. Maybe it was an attempt at gamesmanship or something, but Bubba could have easily said instead that Otis had been ill and unable to practice during the week. If Bubba had said that, this would never have been a story. Otis's mistake came when he went into the broadcast booth at the Moorhead HS game on Friday and didn't use the opportunity to explain why he was there and not with the team. He could have found a way to insert that he had been sick most of the week and unable to practice and prepare. He then could have said that space on the bus/plane/traveling roster is limited and the coaches felt that it was better for the team that his usual spot go to someone that had been able to practice for this game and that he(Otis) completely agreed with that decision. That he really wished that he could be there, but that it was best for the team and at least seeing his brother's senior day game was a consolation. He could have squeezed that in in 15 seconds or less during a pause in the action and this would never have been a story. Again, this all assumes that what Bubba said today is the truth and that the illness was earlier in the week. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, TBR said: Otis is following the path blazed by Grady. Hopefully I. Smith is healthy enough to pick up the pieces. Are you basing this on anything or just another person spouting bull$%!#? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 If it’s not one thing it’s…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 If Smith is out for a while and Luke can't go.... someone needs to back up Otis Ziebarth time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelsup Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Hammersmith said: Assuming what Bubba said in his press conference today is true, the blame for this rests equally between Bubba and Otis. It's an example of poor communication at work. What Bubba said today: Otis was ill for the first half of the week and wasn't able to practice with the team. The coaches chose to bring the players that had practiced and were prepared for the game(remember that there are practical roster limits on away games - bring the players that give you the best chance to win). This is a perfectly legitimate reason to leave Otis at home. And if Otis's illness was gastro-intestinal or anything else that can pass quickly, it would make sense that he would be feeling good enough to watch his brother's game on Friday night and that it wouldn't hurt his recovery for him to be there. Bubba's mistake came Friday or Saturday when he announced Otis wasn't going to play due to illness. The inference of his statement was that Otis was currently ill at the time. Maybe it was an attempt at gamesmanship or something, but Bubba could have easily said instead that Otis had been ill and unable to practice during the week. If Bubba had said that, this would never have been a story. Otis's mistake came when he went into the broadcast booth at the Moorhead HS game on Friday and didn't use the opportunity to explain why he was there and not with the team. He could have found a way to insert that he had been sick most of the week and unable to practice and prepare. He then could have said that space on the bus/plane/traveling roster is limited and the coaches felt that it was better for the team that his usual spot go to someone that had been able to practice for this game and that he(Otis) completely agreed with that decision. That he really wished that he could be there, but that it was best for the team and at least seeing his brother's senior day game was a consolation. He could have squeezed that in in 15 seconds or less during a pause in the action and this would never have been a story. Again, this all assumes that what Bubba said today is the truth and that the illness was earlier in the week. This is my hope as well. I think we can all agree that Otis seems to be a very positive force both talent wise and hyping up his team mates on the sideline. I thought when he was on the sidelines at the Drake game he was still very positive. I love the Otis story and watching him on the field and I hope this can be figured out both for him personally and the team as well. The outlier to this in my mind is the contrast to Maag.. who is also injured but was at the SIU game on the sideline. I would have expected that if Otis was well enough to be at the High School game on Friday that he would have been well enough to be on the sideline during the SIU game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, wheelsup said: This is my hope as well. I think we can all agree that Otis seems to be a very positive force both talent wise and hyping up his team mates on the sideline. I thought when he was on the sidelines at the Drake game he was still very positive. I love the Otis story and watching him on the field and I hope this can be figured out both for him personally and the team as well. The outlier to this in my mind is the contrast to Maag.. who is also injured but was at the SIU game on the sideline. I would have expected that if Otis was well enough to be at the High School game on Friday that he would have been well enough to be on the sideline during the SIU game. Was maag a game time decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelsup Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, Kab said: Was maag a game time decision? I believe it was well known that he was not playing.. but you could be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 How many other injured players made the trip? did our kicker that’s hurt make the trip? I guess come Saturday we will know if he is healthy and playing, I hope he is don't know why some people are apparently hoping for the worst outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kab said: How many other injured players made the trip? did our kicker that’s hurt make the trip? I guess come Saturday we will know if he is healthy and playing, I hope he is don't know why some people are apparently hoping for the worst outcome Morrison, Lotysz, and Weah were all tweeting about the game during it. So it seems like injured players who weren't game time decisions didn't make the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: That throw by Tommy: - 30 yards (90 feet) downfield - from near hash to far sideline (100 feet) - basic throwing motion (no wind-up step-up) A little Pythagorean triangle math says that was a 135 foot throw (45 yards), no wind-up, under pressure, into a bucket. Wish my arm was that "weak" ... Sorry, but the QB geniuses have spoken and they do NOT think Schuster can do anything on a football field that's conducive to moving an offense even though we had almost 500 yards of TO in the last game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SiouxBoys said: Are you basing this on anything or just another person spouting bull$%!#? It's based on the Oct. 18 360 article linked above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, TBR said: It's based on the Oct. 18 360 article linked above. Ah the article where the first thing said about him is "I don't know what's going on" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: Ah the article where the first thing said about him is "I don't know what's going on" Ok fine. I'm an idiot that has no business posting an inference. You are brilliant. There...you happy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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