UNDBIZ Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: The nursing homes are going to take a hit. Unfortunately their resident counts will continue to decline. And who wants to send their loved away, to potentially never see them in person again? Agreed. And I'm surprised anyone who would consider blaming the $12/hour CNA for their elder getting sick didn't pull that elder out of the nursing home 2 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said: Agreed. And I'm surprised anyone who would considered blaming the $12/hour CNA for their elder getting sick didn't pull that elder out of the nursing home 2 months ago. Who blamed him/her? I don't even think cm said the friend was in a nursing home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: Who blamed him/her? I don't even think cm said the friend was in a nursing home. CM blamed the caregiver, who I'm sure feels bad enough already. Good point on the nursing home, possible bad assumption on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: Family friend got it from their caregiver in Grand Forks, family has been called and he is dying. Guess it's okay since he was over 80, at least his caregiver didn't have their personal freedom reduced for a few weeks as they felt healthy when they went to work. Oh the caregiver's spouse worked at LM. If you would have told me from the beginning that my personal freedom would have only been reduced for a few a weeks, I would have been on board. The issue right now is there isn't a plan for those personal freedoms to come back, and the moment somebody brings up that we should start working on that, they get accused of not caring if people die. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: CM blamed the caregiver, who I'm sure feels bad enough already. Good point on the nursing home, possible bad assumption on my part. I took his comment to not so much blame the caregiver....more of our society's opinion of the caregiver's civil rights being infringed upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxForever Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Redneksioux said: Moe's on 32nd who always used to fail their health inspections? Doesn't surprise me! This has merit. @Oxbow6, love your comments, but can’t believe you ate that sh;t from there/that location. Yikes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, SiouxForever said: This has merit. @Oxbow6, love your comments, but can’t believe you ate that sh;t from there/that location. Yikes! Agree....total lack in judgement. Dare I say I would have been better off going to Taco Bell! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 hours ago, MafiaMan said: Please cover yourself from head to toe and wear a mask for our safety! Antifa would love that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Agreed. And I'm surprised anyone who would consider blaming the $12/hour CNA for their elder getting sick didn't pull that elder out of the nursing home 2 months ago. So if your neighbor's spouse tested positive and then your neighbor came over to your house for dinner and you got infected is there no accountability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, Goon said: Antifa would love that. Is Antifa still a thing? Maybe these protesters need to start wearing masks if they're going to be screaming in police officers' faces. Would these cops be so calm if this crowd was black? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/05/michigan-capitol-building-protest-picture/5172876002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 59 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: CM blamed the caregiver, who I'm sure feels bad enough already. Good point on the nursing home, possible bad assumption on my part. only blame lies with a person who is living with someone infected and chooses to go out. Update, just got a call that he died. He was in his 80s so guess they better not list Corona as contributing to his death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksHoops Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 minute ago, CMSioux said: only blame lies with a person who is living with someone infected and chooses to go out. Update, just got a call that he died. He was in his 80s so guess they better not list Corona as contributing to his death. Condolences on your loss CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Imperial Model and Ferguson analysis. https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Agree....total lack in judgement. Dare I say I would have been better off going to Taco Bell! Moe's was definitely preferred over Qdoba and Chipotle when they opened up but that location has gone down hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Is Antifa still a thing? I am sure that fascist terrorist group will be back in action someday but for right now their parents probably aren't letting them leave the house due to the Shelter in Place regulations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, CMSioux said: So if your neighbor's spouse tested positive and then your neighbor came over to your house for dinner and you got infected is there no accountability? What are you proposing? Should the neighbor be arrested for manslaughter? Is that where we are at now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Maybe these protesters need to start wearing masks if they're going to be screaming in police officers' faces. Would these cops be so calm if this crowd was black? I am guessing the cops were calm since the protesters who "stormed" the building were actually told how many of them would be allowed to move into the building and had to line up single file for a temperature check before entering. For the record I think this protest group should find something better to do with their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: What are you proposing? Should the neighbor be arrested for manslaughter? Is that where we are at now? Of course not - are you saying that if a person knows they were exposed to the virus directly they have no accountability when it comes to staying home vs going out into the community and infecting others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Of course not - are you saying that if a person knows they were exposed to the virus directly they have no accountability when it comes to staying home vs going out into the community and infecting others? He simply asked you what you think should be the punishment for the caretaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: He simply asked you what you think should be the punishment for the caretaker. If someone knew they had been exposed and chose to come to work among vulnerable adults - probably should be some consequences. Based on the nursing home environment it would seem unlikely that he will be the only who gets infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Just now, CMSioux said: If someone knew they had been exposed and chose to come to work among vulnerable adults - probably should be some consequences. Based on the nursing home environment it would seem unlikely that he will be the only who gets infected. What are those consequences then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Of course not - are you saying that if a person knows they were exposed to the virus directly they have no accountability when it comes to staying home vs going out into the community and infecting others? If you have reason to believe that you have a high probability of shedding the virus, you should stay home. That’s just common sense. quarantine the sick and the probably sick/exposed. Use common sense. Open up the country to the well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: What are those consequences then? Not my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: If you have reason to believe that you have a high probability of shedding the virus, you should stay home. That’s just common sense. quarantine the sick and the probably sick/exposed. Use common sense. Open up the country to the well. Honest question because no one I've asked has a good answer: Where do the caretakers (and their families) who are responsible to take care of the sick/vulnerable population who are quarantined fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, CMSioux said: If someone knew they had been exposed and chose to come to work among vulnerable adults - probably should be some consequences. Based on the nursing home environment it would seem unlikely that he will be the only who gets infected. The situation as you laid out is clearer than most......husband at LM gets Covid.....wife at home gets close exposure....she comes to nursing home and passes it along. Easy enough, she should have stayed home if possible. What if instead of getting it from her husband....the lady went through the Taco Bell drive thru and found out a week later that two people were diagnosed with Covid. Should she still stay at home? I can guarantee you I've been in Walmart or Hugo's at the same time people with Covid have been there......do I need to stay home for 2 weeks after every visit? Should somethong happen to me if I pass it along not knowing that I had it? How about lesser ailments? If I pass a cold to a coworker that causes that person to miss two days of work can they file a lawsuit against me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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