UND92,96 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 15 hours ago, jdub27 said: "if the caregiver get sick".......So what happens when caregivers are in the window where they are contagious but not yet showing any symptoms or end up being completely asymptomatic but are still carrying and shedding the virus? Point being, you can't just claim isolating the vulnerable and those who need care will be a simple fix. I'm afraid this is going to be an ongoing problem until such time as a rapid-result test is available, and long-term care facility employees can be tested daily. I read somewhere that 84% of Minnesota's 485 coronavirus deaths have occurred in long-term care facilities. And obviously, their lockdown has been longer and more stringent than ND's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: You can start with size of population. Last census indicated Cass County has 1/7th of the population in ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: That's concept is well over his pay grade. .....and considering Cass is home to the largest group of the "elderly and vulnerable" in the state it's the caregivers fault. Does Cass County have over 50% of the elderly and vulnerable in the State? Would never assume that is over your pay grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Old Fella said: Last census indicated Cass County has 1/7th of the population in ND. I'm just spit balling but population per sq mile. Probably close to 1/2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 hours ago, yzerman19 said: To win a war certainly Do you recall a war the US had lost 75,000 people to? Or one that had 2,000 US citizens dying daily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Do you recall a war the US had lost 75,000 people to? Or one that had 2,000 US citizens dying daily? Actual "wars" generally spare the elderly and vulnerable and take the lives of those with a future ahead of them yet are willing to sacrifice for the greater good......but as far as the history of war casualties I'll defer to our resident expert dlsiouxfan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: I'm just spit balling but population per sq mile. Probably close to 1/2 Therefore people who live in more densley populated areas should not act responsibly and not wear masks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Do you recall a war the US had lost 75,000 people to? Or one that had 2,000 US citizens dying daily? 405k in WW2...and none of that was fought on our home soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Old Fella said: Therefore people who live in more densley populated areas should not act responsibly and not wear masks? Whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, yzerman19 said: 405k in WW2...and none of that was fought on our home soil Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Nodak78 said: Hawaii Wasn’t a State yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Nodak78 said: Hawaii Just now, yzerman19 said: Wasn’t a State yet Also wasn't much of a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Do as I command or hundreds of thousands will die...framed that way it sounds like a threat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, yzerman19 said: 405k in WW2...and none of that was fought on our home soil A quick google search shows 291,557 US lives were lost in WW2. And this spanned over 4 years. We've lost 75,000 so far to Covid19 with 2,000 daily still dying. Thankfully it has been mostly elderly with no future ahead of them though eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Old Fella said: Sure you can tell all of us why Cass County has more cases and dealths from the virus that the rest of the state combined? Dirty, unkempt bison fans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Siouxphan27 said: Dirty, unkempt bison fans. You just maybe are on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Old Fella said: You just maybe are on to something. I saw a bunch of bison fans walking around in Fargo wearing football helmets, thinking the face masks were protective gear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: You can start with size of population. Add in demographics and elderly population/care facilities. 13 of 35 long term care facilities are in Cass. I don't have the numbers, but the retirement communities have to be at least that percentage, probably more. Just makes sense to have those facilities are located with adequate medical and other services available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: A quick google search shows 291,557 US lives were lost in WW2. And this spanned over 4 years. We've lost 75,000 so far to Covid19 with 2,000 daily still dying. Thankfully it has been mostly elderly with no future ahead of them though eh? Nevermind the demographic group of those 24 and under that die at a vastly higher rate from influenza. Hopefully this country will have a daily clicker and press conferences for those individuals on an annual basis as we move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: A quick google search shows 291,557 US lives were lost in WW2. And this spanned over 4 years. We've lost 75,000 so far to Covid19 with 2,000 daily still dying. Thankfully it has been mostly elderly with no future ahead of them though eh? Yep...I’d die for my children’s future. and my quick google search cane in at 405k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: Add in demographics and elderly population/care facilities. 13 of 35 long term care facilities are in Cass. I don't have the numbers, but the retirement communities have to be at least that percentage, probably more. Just makes sense to have those facilities are located with adequate medical and other services available. Can you break that down into a % for Old Fella to spare him the math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: A quick google search shows 291,557 US lives were lost in WW2. And this spanned over 4 years. We've lost 75,000 so far to Covid19 with 2,000 daily still dying. Thankfully it has been mostly elderly with no future ahead of them though eh? Just read an article on a 29 woman who passed away with/from Covid. Seemed like an absolutely wonderful person. She was beyond morbidly obese, HBP and likely diabetic. May she rest in peace, but at some point we also have to take responsibility for our decisions. In the end, her death will be used to show that this is killing young people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: Wasn’t a State yet True but was a territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Can you break that down into a % for Old Fella to spare him the math? 13 is 1/3 of the long term facilities in ND. 33% is less than 50%. How's that for math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Nevermind the demographic group of those 24 and under that die at a vastly higher rate from influenza. Hopefully this country will have a daily clicker and press conferences for those individuals on an annual basis as we move forward. https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku Vastly higher? 19-20 US Covid deaths under 24 years of age - 58 19-20 US Influenza deaths under 24 years of age - 126 Add in the 25-34 year olds and Covid deaths are more than influeza. Keep in mind the first documented Covid death in the US was just 3 months ago. To top that off we now have children dealing with Kawasaki disease after recovering from Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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