forksandspoons Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Did they even look outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, zonadub said: This is why UND, NDSU, the Montana’s and the rest don’t go FBS. Plus, Special Teams Co-ordinator is not necessarily a step down. ST Coordinator is a pretty big step down from DC or OC. But FBS makes it worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: Did they even look outside? They didn't open it up for the application circus. Doesn't mean Bubba didn't call around gauging interest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Welp, I hope he does an excellent job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Welp, I hope he does an excellent job. It was very predictable and not splashy, but hopefully he's the right guy for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Holinka's bio: https://fightinghawks.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brett-holinka/1883 He has experience as a coordinator. A big challenge for Holinka. I am going on record as a bit of a doubter. If he were a beer it'd be called Schmitty Lite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: They didn't open it up for the application circus. No external opening means no application circus and the easy path for Bubba, Athletics, and UND HR. It's far easier to post and hire for positions that are less "high profile". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I understand people not being excited about this hire. Who were they going to get that was better? What slam dunk candidate was going to come in and run Bubba’s system? Bubba wasn’t letting go of the reins. Wouldn’t surprise me to find out that Bubba is going to start calling the defense during games. Which may not be a bad thing. I might be way off but to me this might open a door to finding a really good position coach/recruiter. Could be a good thing. I’m staying positive. Like everyone or close to everyone else not super excited but positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/4857480-UND-promotes-Brett-Holinka-to-defensive-coordinator#.XheU8ICHbVw.twitter "Holinka said UND will continue to run a 3-4 defense." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Conspiracy theory: Don’t take me to serious, this is just a theory. Do you think part of Schmidt leaving had to do with him wanting to switch Defenses? Hiring Holinka was his willingness to believe in the 3-4 and allow Bubba to start calling games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, bang said: Conspiracy theory: Don’t take me to serious, this is just a theory. Do you think part of Schmidt leaving had to do with him wanting to switch Defenses? Hiring Holinka was his willingness to believe in the 3-4 and allow Bubba to start calling games? Less than zero percent chance of that being real 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/4857480-UND-promotes-Brett-Holinka-to-defensive-coordinator#.XheU8ICHbVw.twitter "Holinka said UND will continue to run a 3-4 defense." Here is his take on alignment. Refreshing to hear coach speak on this, as he’s spot on. The talk on this board about 3-4 or 4-3 has been nothing more than strongly misinformed amateur opinion. “We're still base 3-4; I don't think that'll change at the University of North Dakota," Holinka said. "That's who we are. You're going to put your tweaks and changes to what you're more comfortable with, but it's not like we're tearing up the playbook and starting over. Coach Schmidt did a fantastic job the last six years. We'll emphasize different things, but UND Fighting Hawk defense is 3-4 defense. Will we line up differently? Yeah. Will we look like we have four down (linemen) sometimes? Yeah. But really, it's just whether one guy is standing up or in a stance. I think some people buy too much into whether you're 3 or 4 (down linemen)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 If it's still a base 3-4 we need a Tank Harris cloning machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Here is his take on alignment. Refreshing to hear coach speak on this, as he’s spot on. The talk on this board about 3-4 or 4-3 is nothing more than strongly misinformed amateur opinion. “We're still base 3-4; I don't think that'll change at the University of North Dakota," Holinka said. "That's who we are. You're going to put your tweaks and changes to what you're more comfortable with, but it's not like we're tearing up the playbook and starting over. Coach Schmidt did a fantastic job the last six years. We'll emphasize different things, but UND Fighting Hawk defense is 3-4 defense. Will we line up differently? Yeah. Will we look like we have four down (linemen) sometimes? Yeah. But really, it's just whether one guy is standing up or in a stance. I think some people buy too much into whether you're 3 or 4 (down linemen)." To me the difference is personnel. No offense is fooled by Jaxson Turner being up on the line with his hand in the dirt. They will however take notice if there’s two legitimate interior defensive linemen and a Mason Bennett on each end of the line. To me there is a big difference between the two defenses. Which leads to personnel. We need a good NG to make the 3-4 work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, CMSioux said: AC's wanting to be HCs gotta move - also dare I mention he is trading North Dakota for California (not a diss about ND). So more money and opportunity but a definite downside as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Here is his take on alignment. Refreshing to hear coach speak on this, as he’s spot on. The talk on this board about 3-4 or 4-3 has been nothing more than strongly misinformed amateur opinion. “We're still base 3-4; I don't think that'll change at the University of North Dakota," Holinka said. "That's who we are. You're going to put your tweaks and changes to what you're more comfortable with, but it's not like we're tearing up the playbook and starting over. Coach Schmidt did a fantastic job the last six years. We'll emphasize different things, but UND Fighting Hawk defense is 3-4 defense. Will we line up differently? Yeah. Will we look like we have four down (linemen) sometimes? Yeah. But really, it's just whether one guy is standing up or in a stance. I think some people buy too much into whether you're 3 or 4 (down linemen)." Actually, the talk in this thread about differences in personnel between the two defenses is spot on. Mr. Holinka is likely very well aware of the current conversations surrounding the defense and is downplaying the differences between the two. Savvy media comments. The two fronts are very different, much more than just standing up or putting his hand on the ground. 3-4 defenses require your nose to be responsible for two gaps vs one. Without a Haloti Ngata type at the nose that can absolutely manhandle the center and requiring a double team on nearly every play, the defense is vulnerable. Point is, they are very different fronts and require very different recruiting, IMO. Mr. Holinka clearly knows this and I'm sure will do a great job recruiting the players that best fit his defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: No external opening means no application circus and the easy path for Bubba, Athletics, and UND HR. It's far easier to post and hire for positions that are less "high profile". Status quo for UND athletics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, forksandspoons said: Did they even look outside? Do they ever? UND football is becoming the most inbred thing around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hawkster said: Do they ever? UND football is becoming the most inbred thing around. Ya, I find this trend disturbing. I mean, a hire this fast seems it was almost a lock. Schmidt likely recommended this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, gundy1124 said: A big challenge for Holinka. I am going on record as a bit of a doubter. If he were a beer it'd be called Schmitty Lite. As has been shared our D wasn't exactly the Steel Curtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Without a couple dominate nose tackles we are screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Hawkster said: Do they ever? UND football is becoming the most inbred thing around. It's like we are the McPoyles of college football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteppenHawk Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 A candidate would have to run a fairly unique version of the 34 which is bubba's precious and take a moderate salary for their trouble. Oh and there is a good chance that they could be let go after next season. The reality is that quality coaches were not going to be interested. Hire in house and get it over with I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I find it amusing, when we hire a president we want someone with Nd ties. we hire a football coach and we are inbred if we hire someone with ND ties. we are equal opportunity haters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Kab said: I find it amusing, when we hire a president we want someone with Nd ties. we hire a football coach and we are inbred if we hire someone with ND ties. we are equal opportunity haters And we do the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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