Bison06 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: the bigger question being posed around Fargo; What the heck went wrong with our steroids that one year??? Given JMU had players suspended for the same reason following our game with them, maybe the question should be how their dealer got better stuff than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: the bigger question being posed around Fargo; What the heck went wrong with our steroids that one year??? Love it!!! You go Siouxphan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Given JMU had players suspended for the same reason following our game with them, maybe the question should be how their dealer got better stuff than ours. That’s what I was saying; your steroid game took a dive that year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteppenHawk Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Where did the steroid talk come from? Didn't they say it was pre workout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 hours ago, bang said: If this was truly a preworkout supplement foul, I’m worried. People have been using these since the 90’s back when creatine hit the market. All coaching/strength staff members better be knowledgeable about what’s given to athletes. More importantly the ADs better know what’s going on in the program. If it turns out that a staff member gave the supplement and Larson made the statement that his staff gives no supplements. He’s not only getting fired but is going to be sued personally. Even if he didn’t know that was going on. What ever happened to that alibi/didn't to the paperwork. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Old Fella said: What ever happened to that alibi/didn't to the paperwork. Someone lost the improperly filed paperwork I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Old Fella said: What ever happened to that alibi/didn't to the paperwork. That was a typical Bizon post to down play the severity of these offenses. It will go away, attitude. In fact, most troll posts here are to make little of these NCAA drug infractions by the Bizon. Could the bigger picture within the FB program be more like? The FB program became good at masking this stuff, they test themselves to monitor results and adjust the level of juicing accordingly. Timing is also important. All that the NCAA has done to us in the past is suspend the players caught and the program writes them off as violated team rules and we move on. Has this FB program recently suspended a player for failing there own program's tests, maybe not under this practice? Lots of unanswered questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 "Here guys take some of my "supplements." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: And you don’t understand how that makes us suspicious? Why are your suspicions important? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Is caffeine as bad as pot? Can you deal caffeine like the pot dealers sold pot? Are pot dealers drug dealers? Is it illegal to sell caffeine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 NDSU got caught as far as I’m concerned. Further investigation and sanctions time, NCAA ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlinFlan80 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 hours ago, bison73 said: Why are your suspicions important? No one cares about what you think on here. When will you figure that out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 hours ago, bison73 said: Why are your suspicions important? Well, I am an alum of NDSU for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 44 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: NDSU got caught as far as I’m concerned. Further investigation and sanctions time, NCAA ... I’m assuming that you called for sanctions for UND when your guy got popped for Adderall then too right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I think we are all waiting for NDJuice U AD and admin staff to own up to this and handle it....the continued denial and silence puts even more tarnish on those trophies... in nursing this is how an error is handled: nurse, who has completed a competency (so she has knowledge, important fact here too) makes a very serious error (death or disability). She is licensed in her state... hospital determines course (moved out of specialty area, mandatory class about medication administration, and 3 day suspension). This is then reported to the state board of nursing since it would be teviewed by them anyway. MESSAGE: We admit our employee made an error and we will manage AND monitor his/her future actions. I don’t see anything like that here.... my grandson says to his sister: Man up, Laura. Man up, NDJuice U!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Milo said: Is caffeine as bad as pot? Can you deal caffeine like the pot dealers sold pot? Are pot dealers drug dealers? Is it illegal to sell caffeine? Depending on what state you live in they are both legal in the eyes of the law They can both be purchased anywhere In this case- The NCAA already decided the kid is a cheater and according to his mom was given his cheating drug of choice by an NDSU coach. It doesn’t matter what is better or worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 14 hours ago, Bison06 said: Given JMU had players suspended for the same reason following our game with them, maybe the question should be how their dealer got better stuff than ours. East coast bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 hours ago, bison73 said: Why are your suspicions important? Because he's a taxpayer and the State of ND could end up on the hook for liabilities (costs) incurred by NDSU if say Mr. Robbins (et al) were to retain council and claim damages ... Mentioning the State, there's an open records law in this State. Now I'm pretty sure names would have to be blotted out (think: HIPAA), but wouldn't any testing of players contracted out by NDSU to a third-party be fair game for an open records request? It would be intriguing to see what NDSU's testing contractor finds during their evaluations. And this could provide some insight to Barn's question about NDSU having suspended their own for self-test results. We couldn't be sure (no names per HIPAA) but if there were X failed tests one would expect commensurate press reports about "violation of team rules" suspensions and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I’m assuming that you called for sanctions for UND when your guy got popped for Adderall then too right? No, because the situation was vastly different; he did not get his Adderall from the university. In the ndsu case, according to the family, the kid got it from the university, and it’s use was prevalent throughout the locker room as part of their university funded SFYP, or, Steroids For Youth Program. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: No, because the situation was vastly different; he did not get his Adderall from the university. In the ndsu case, according to the family, the kid got it from the university, and it’s use was prevalent throughout the locker room as part of their university funded SFYP, or, Steroids For Youth Program. He didn’t have a prescription, so he either got it from another player who did or another university student. Either way, calling for sanctions is laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Would you rather the headline read: X suspended, got substance from roommate orX suspended, got substance from trusted staff member I'd prefer neither, but, if forced to choose I'll take the first long before the second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, Bison06 said: He didn’t have a prescription, so he either got it from another player who did or another university student. Either way, calling for sanctions is laughable. So according to you, the only other people on earth are teammates or university students. Lol. The fact you don’t think a university funded drug distribution ring is worthy of sanctions is quite telling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: So according to you, the only other people on earth are teammates or university students. Lol. The fact you don’t think a university funded drug distribution ring is worthy of sanctions is quite telling. The fact that you would characterize it with those words is quite telling. You make it sound like the damn Columbia’s cartel set up shop in the basement of the fargodome. If you can’t make it at whatever career you’re at now, you’ll always have a job writing headlines for CNN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbasburner Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bison06 said: The fact that you would characterize it with those words is quite telling. You make it sound like the damn Columbia’s cartel set up shop in the basement of the fargodome. If you can’t make it at whatever career you’re at now, you’ll always have a job writing headlines for CNN. He just might be worse than CNN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Bubbasburner said: He just might be worse than CNN. Worse than CNN - for realioz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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