Non-UND FCS Thread

[petey23]

4 hours ago, gundy1124 said:

In all seriousness, SU should send him on his way, he just took another job.  I heard Bohl and Klieman had to be physically seperated in the locker room, I think in Frisco, when Bohl was hired at WY but stayed on.  

Recruiting and signing date......awkward!!

Bohl didn't handle things as well as Klieman. The thing that created hard feelings when Bohl left was he and his coaching staff tried to flip some recruits to Wyoming while the rest of the Bison staff was trying to keep their recruits committed...don't think that will be a factor this time as NDSU and K-State are not competing for the same type of athlete.

[petey23]

56 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

How jealous is Bohl right now? Klieman stays 4 more years at NDSU and gets offered a P5 job with a decent football history where as Bohl got a bottom barrel G5 team. He has got to be pissed for jumping on the first offer. Could this have been Bohl instead of Klieman?

Not with Gene Taylor at K State. Have heard him and Craig aren't exactly friendly anymore.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

3 hours ago, Go Hawks said:

i'm sick of being a UND FB fan and Vikings fan on a day like today. Man, did I choose the wrong teams to cheer for....

My recollection of your 16 posts to date, you haven't showed us you are a UND FB fan?

Your first two words, I may agree with.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Coach Klieman stole the media show in flatlander country yesterday, there are fans in Manhattan in awe, and many K. State $$$ alumni not happy.

Past NDSU AD Gene Taylor, now at K. State, offered Klieman the job. A job boosters are saying that other coaches may have not wanted, because of the possibility of some assistant coaches must stay on and past coach Bill Snyder stays on in some capacity $250G/yr, but not as a coach. Also, the pressures of following the past coaches accomplishments. Next few weeks will be very interesting for the little apple fans.

Winningest coach at Kansas State

[Siouxphan27]

7 hours ago, jdub27 said:

Klieman took the phone call to accept the job while at practice. KSU gives him $12+ million over the next 5 years and you think they aren't in a hurry to get him working? They have something like 9 commits, dead period starts Monday and early signing day on the 19th. I'm sure he's laser focused... 

Reminds me of 

“they were on the ice!” From a couple of years ago..

 

[bang]

6 hours ago, Go Hawks said:

i'm sick of being a UND FB fan and Vikings fan on a day like today. Man, did I choose the wrong teams to cheer for....

You certainly sound like a Packer/Bison fan. 

[shep]

6 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Still can’t understand this: KU hires Les Miles and KSU hires Klieman. How does this make any sense?

ksu fans are pissed because 1. He is a FCs coach and 2. He is finishing out the season in Fargo

i would be pissed if that was my new coach. On a side note the steaming turd team makers is holding a vigil outside Kliemans house in Fargo. So sorry for their loss.

I"ll bet that Klieman at KSU over the next 5 years will be better than Miles at Kansas. 

Miles got canned at LSU as his offense was as creative as UND"s over the past few years. That works at LSU for awhile when you can get great players on D to keep you in games. He does the same O at Kansas and it won't be close-Klieman will have more W's over next 5 years.

[tnt]

19 minutes ago, shep said:

I"ll bet that Klieman at KSU over the next 5 years will be better than Miles at Kansas. 

Miles got canned at LSU as his offense was as creative as UND"s over the past few years. That works at LSU for awhile when you can get great players on D to keep you in games. He does the same O at Kansas and it won't be close-Klieman will have more W's over next 5 years.

Agree, just because someone comes from a big time school doesn't mean they will do any better.  At some point all the big time coaches started somewhere down the ladder as well, so whats to say Klieman doesn't follow suit.  He sure knows how to run a professional program, and the fact that you can keep a team focused on winning for that long is quite an attribute, either that or their talent level is so far beyond everyone else.  Either way, it reflects well on Klieman. 

[geaux_sioux]

33 minutes ago, shep said:

I"ll bet that Klieman at KSU over the next 5 years will be better than Miles at Kansas. 

Miles got canned at LSU as his offense was as creative as UND"s over the past few years. That works at LSU for awhile when you can get great players on D to keep you in games. He does the same O at Kansas and it won't be close-Klieman will have more W's over next 5 years.

He also had amazing talent on O outside of the qb. Jarvis Landry and OBJ as WRs for three years....

[The Sicatoka]

The Snyder angle is real and the largest lurking negative for Klieman, but at least it’s out there and not in the shadows. 

Frankly, NDSU losing the S&C guy, as I heard he’s going with, may be just as big news but overlooked. He’s been an unsung hero to that program. 

[geaux_sioux]

7 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Still can’t understand this: KU hires Les Miles and KSU hires Klieman. How does this make any sense?

ksu fans are pissed because 1. He is a FCs coach and 2. He is finishing out the season in Fargo

i would be pissed if that was my new coach. On a side note the steaming turd team makers is holding a vigil outside Kliemans house in Fargo. So sorry for their loss.

Not sure how they could be all that pissed. NDSU stuffed a football down their throat when they last met. KSU fancies itself a football power but what have they ever really done?

[jdub27]

8 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

I thought his NDSU contract said he can’t recruit the same players at his new school unless they were recruited by the new school before the hire

Not that there is a ton of overlap, but the limitations are that he can't recruit any player to his new school that the school hasn't had contact with or unless the recruit initiates the contact. Good luck enforcing that.

 

7 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

How jealous is Bohl right now? Klieman stays 4 more years at NDSU and gets offered a P5 job with a decent football history where as Bohl got a bottom barrel G5 team. He has got to be pissed for jumping on the first offer. Could this have been Bohl instead of Klieman?

Bohl didn't have his previous AD at a P5 school. GT stuck his neck out big time with the fan base on this one and his history with Klieman is the only reason why. No other AD would have given him an interview with that big of (perceived) jump.

Still can't believe they are keeping him on. He'll be in Manhattan tomorrow for a press conference. Whoever is going with him is working on figuring out how to salvage their new recruiting class while the coaches who are staying/being left behind have their full focus on SDSU and making sure they don't lose a few of their top recruits. Anyone but SDSU or maybe EWU, I would say it wouldn't matter with the team they have this year, but it will be interesting to watch it play out.

Guessing someone on staff gets the nod to replace CK, though I could easily see them finding some loophole to completely ignore state hiring requirements and bring in an outside candidate in short order.

[UNDBIZ]

8 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Guessing someone on staff gets the nod to replace CK, though I could easily see them finding some loophole to completely ignore state hiring requirements and bring in an outside candidate in short order.

Not positive, but they may be able to name an outsider as "interim" HC during the hiring process and then conveniently hire that person as HC.

[jdub27]

11 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Not positive, but they may be able to name an outsider as "interim" HC during the hiring process and then conveniently hire that person as HC.

Figured there was something.

[gundy1124]

7 hours ago, petey23 said:

Bohl didn't handle things as well as Klieman. The thing that created hard feelings when Bohl left was he and his coaching staff tried to flip some recruits to Wyoming while the rest of the Bison staff was trying to keep their recruits committed...don't think that will be a factor this time as NDSU and K-State are not competing for the same type of athlete.

Right, SU probably doesn't want anyone K State is recruiting.

[gundy1124]

4 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said:

Reminds me of 

“they were on the ice!” From a couple of years ago..

 

"Seniors, once a BiZon always a BiZon.  Trainers, tape everyones' hands in a horns up so when they wake in the morning the 1st thing they see is BiZon pride and......" ring, ring, ring "hang on for a second....yep, yep, OK, $2.3, yep, Ok."  Walks back....."trainers, never mind!!"

[GoHawks]

1 hour ago, tnt said:

Agree, just because someone comes from a big time school doesn't mean they will do any better.  At some point all the big time coaches started somewhere down the ladder as well, so whats to say Klieman doesn't follow suit.  He sure knows how to run a professional program, and the fact that you can keep a team focused on winning for that long is quite an attribute, either that or their talent level is so far beyond everyone else.  Either way, it reflects well on Klieman. 

I think just the names alone would be a big difference in recruiting.

Les Miles - Well known name in FBS college football who was successful at a big time football college....LSU

Chris Klieman - Successful FCS college football coach, multiple championships, ect….

Now don't het me wrong Klieman is a great coach and any FCS football program would be glad to have him but lets not forget that the only reason he got offered the job is 1) Gene Taylor and 2) Every other applicant who was more qualified turned it down. Not saying Klieman wont be successful at the next level because no one can say that. We will find out soon enough. Best of luck to him!

[jdub27]

10 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

"Seniors, once a BiZon always a BiZon.  Trainers, tape everyones' hands in a horns up so when they wake in the morning the 1st thing they see is BiZon pride and......" ring, ring, ring "hang on for a second....yep, yep, OK, $2.3, yep, Ok."  Walks back....."trainers, never mind!!"

EMAW!

[Siouxperfan7]

I wonder if Matt Larsen made a phone call to Matt Entz last night?!!  I would say he is the front runner to replace Kleiman.

[geaux_sioux]

I’m not convinced that NDSUs huge advantage this whole time has been amazing coaching. Bohl would be doing better if that was the case. I think it’s the player culture established by the 2013 senior class. They set the expectations and the work ethic and it’s been passed along with each class. 

[Siouxperfan7]

9 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I’m not convinced that NDSUs huge advantage this whole time has been amazing coaching. Bohl would be doing better if that was the case. I think it’s the player culture established by the 2013 senior class. They set the expectations and the work ethic and it’s been passed along with each class. 

Having the arguably the 3 best quarterbacks in FCS history back to back to back the past 9 years doesn't hurt either!! 

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Having the arguably the 3 best quarterbacks in FCS history back to back to back the past 9 years doesn't hurt either!! 

u serious

[Dustin]

10 hours ago, Go Hawks said:

i'm sick of being a UND FB fan and Vikings fan on a day like today. Man, did I choose the wrong teams to cheer for....

Isn't Bison football uncertainty a good thing for UND?!  This could be the first chink in the armor.  

[F'n Hawks]

24 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I’m not convinced that NDSUs huge advantage this whole time has been amazing coaching. Bohl would be doing better if that was the case. I think it’s the player culture established by the 2013 senior class. They set the expectations and the work ethic and it’s been passed along with each class. 

Agreed

[Siouxperfan7]

7 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

u serious

I guess I should have worded that as the "most successful" quarterbacks in FCS history.