ibleedgreen Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I'm assuming this would take Bubba into retirement? Or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 25 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: My two really good NDSU buddies are going to laugh when they hear the news about Bubba, along with every other NDSU fan. Maybe when they come down to Phoenix in two weeks for the Final Four they will convert me to NDSU fans. Ok that won't happen, but it is completely depressing knowing we have zero chance to have any type realistic chance or even hope...... of contending for a title for another four years!!! The complete meltdown of the rest of the season after he NDSU game was so glaring that Bubba doesn't have what it takes to coach up and lead a team to greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: I'm assuming this would take Bubba into retirement? Or no? Bubba would be 65 at the end of the 27 season. Who knows? He could conceivably hang around for another extension. (unfortunately) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Once again, too quiet too long here. Spring ball and no comments? I kept checking and no comments . What’s up? This is an AD issue, not a coach issue. Who knows what Bubba was told? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 51 minutes ago, gfhockey said: I dropped two of my four I decided. Sending chaves a message I dropped all four of my season tickets. No faith in this athletic department outside of hockey. All sports are a distant second thought outside of hockey. It sucks but it is what it is. I will email Chaves and Armacost, but know that it won’t cha be anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 19 minutes ago, ibleedgreen said: I'm assuming this would take Bubba into retirement? Or no? And here I thought the record and lack of success would take care of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Is Chaves an NDSU plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 As @jdub27 says, it does no good to complain on a message board (even though that is one of the purposes of having one, but I digress). So, here are both President Armacost's and Athletic Director Chaves' e-mail addresses. They are both ultimately responsible for what happens with athletics at UND, so the buck stops with them on things like this. andrew.armacost@und.edu william.chaves@und.edu Please be respectful and courteous in your comments. I know this is an emotional topic for those of us who care about UND athletics, but nasty comments will be (and should be) ignored. I will be sending e-mails to each. I will post them on here after they have been sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 37 minutes ago, dmksioux said: I dropped all four of my season tickets. No faith in this athletic department outside of hockey. All sports are a distant second thought outside of hockey. It sucks but it is what it is. I will email Chaves and Armacost, but know that it won’t cha be anything. I’m dropping all my football season tickets as well. I’ll just pick up some tickets for free on game day when they’re giving them out to try get butts in seats 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 36 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: Is Chaves an NDSU plant? Nope. Just a cog in a failed system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksHoops Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: I’m dropping all my football season tickets as well. I’ll just pick up some tickets for free on game day when they’re giving them out to try get butts in seats I'm doing the same. At this point in my life, I'm not willing to waste my time, money or emotional capital on an athletic department that has shown zero interest in rising above mediocrity. There is no justification for this extension and it's just the latest in a series of questionable decisions under Chaves. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will make any difference if he leaves and they just promote from within since it's all the same philosophy. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Chaves won’t listen in emails armacost will see season tix dropping and that he should send the message tonchsves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 It’s sad because football needs all the help they can get, and Chaves is single-handedly running into the ground by doing dumb extesnions i bet buyout language doesn’t change make me eat crow billy boy and drink pabst 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class_of_98 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Absolute frustration and disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisUND1 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 Very frustrated. Of course, Chaves is out of town with hockey team and unavailable when this is announced. Strategic? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDhoops Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 At least I don’t need to care about football for a few years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, ibleedgreen said: I'm assuming this would take Bubba into retirement? Or no? I'm not sure we are lucky enough to assume that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, UNDhoops said: At least I don’t need to care about football for a few years I keep saying that, but can't help myself. I'll just be back to frustration and higher blood pressure in the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oxbow6 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 Will we still rejoice winning at home in OT as a 27 point favorite? #thestandard 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I'd really be interested to know the terms of the extension, though I'm sure that would be even more disappointed. If Chaves was smart at all, he should have lowballed Bubba and included a simple buyout, and Bubba would still be getting a heck of a deal. What's Bubba going to do at this point in his career and this time of year? Walk away from the program? Is that was a "nice guy" would do? He would have begrudgingly taken some extra money as he rode off into the sunset. Program would have kept some degree of continuity for the upcoming season and the players, forced Bubba to produce on the field, and if he couldn't we would have bought ourselves a year for a better candidate search. Its all a good ole boys club ... once you've got your membership card, you're basically a teacher that has hit tenure. Time served outweighs results achieved ..... (not taking a shot at any of you teachers out there, just a broken system that lacks accountability). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucesky02 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I don't see what everyone is so upset about. 1) You all seem to be certain that Bubba is going to keep the program afloat and in playoff contention. Can't say the same for a new hire. 2) Bubba is just keeping the seat warm for Danny to come back in a few years with the SDSU book of secrets and take over as HC. He'll hand Danny a solid program that is primed and ready to take from good to great. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 20 minutes ago, ChrisUND1 said: Very frustrated. Of course, Chaves is out of town with hockey team and unavailable when this is announced. Strategic? For sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: I'd really be interested to know the terms of the extension, though I'm sure that would be even more disappointed. If Chaves was smart at all, he should have lowballed Bubba and included a simple buyout, and Bubba would still be getting a heck of a deal. What's Bubba going to do at this point in his career and this time of year? Walk away from the program? Is that was a "nice guy" would do? He would have begrudgingly taken some extra money as he rode off into the sunset. Program would have kept some degree of continuity for the upcoming season and the players, forced Bubba to produce on the field, and if he couldn't we would have bought ourselves a year for a better candidate search. Its all a good ole boys club ... once you've got your membership card, you're basically a teacher that has hit tenure. Time served outweighs results achieved ..... (not taking a shot at any of you teachers out there, just a broken system that lacks accountability). Well, I scanned the article, and so much for negotiation ... 2024: $255k 2025: $265k 2026 (Ext): $275k 2027 (Ext): $285k *Buyout portion of the contract remains UNCHANGED! If fired without cause, Bubba receives 100% of the base salary for the first 24 months. 75% of his base salary for months 25-36, and 50% of his base salary for months 37-48. Bill is pathetic. It must be nice to be able to make the kind of money these guys are making without actually having to show results. Now take my next comment as it is intended ... Bill's only saving grace as AD is that he still has a very successful hockey program to fall back on. That being said, I don't understand that complete lack of awareness around Football. To be honest, I don't think he actually has had to do much for hockey ... that well oiled machine kind of runs itself, but he will be sure to take credit for that. Bubba apart from taking us up a notch after Muss, has really done nothing to warrant the last two extensions. Maybe if I stop working so hard at my job, I'll get rewarded too! ... but I doubt it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On one hand I can't believe the extension...on the other hand, it should have been expected by all of us... Looks like the standard for UND football is 5-7 wins a season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: Well, I scanned the article, and so much for negotiation ... 2024: $255k 2025: $265k 2026 (Ext): $275k 2027 (Ext): $285k *Buyout portion of the contract remains UNCHANGED! If fired without cause, Bubba receives 100% of the base salary for the first 24 months. 75% of his base salary for months 25-36, and 50% of his base salary for months 37-48. Bill is pathetic. It must be nice to be able to make the kind of money these guys are making without actually having to show results. Now take my next comment as it is intended ... Bill's only saving grace as AD is that he still has a very successful hockey program to fall back on. That being said, I don't understand that complete lack of awareness around Football. To be honest, I don't think he actually has had to do much for hockey ... that well oiled machine kind of runs itself, but he will be sure to take credit for that. Bubba apart from taking us up a notch after Muss, has really done nothing to warrant the last two extensions. Maybe if I stop working so hard at my job, I'll get rewarded too! ... but I doubt it Are you really trying to say he doesn't work hard? He is in over his head and don't believe he can take the program to the next level, but to imply he doesn't work are in unfair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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