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5 hours ago, nd1sufan said:

Can he catch Christian Watson if he is healthy? Because they had no answer for him 2 years ago.

Cam Miller doesn't have near the talent to get him the ball as the last guy though.  Hammys take a long time to heal - how did he look on Friday?

Also was Troy Anderson playing QB that game?  Same guy right?

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Duluth (you know who) had a FB coach that got them to a level but not beyond. He left and the next guy, first year, got Duluth a DII FB title (two in three years actually). 

North Dakota had a coach that got them to a level but never beyond. That coach left for PHI, and a first year guy got an NCAA DI title. 

Montana State had a guy get them to a level. Vigen comes in and first year he's playing in Frisco. 

STL was dead last at Christmas a couple years back, and new guy got them a Cup in half a season. 

Heck, WPG just had Paul Maurice resign on Friday. Why? His words paraphrased -> they need a new voice; he could only get them to a certain level

 

Sometimes guys, realized or not, are "to a level" guys.

They can get you just so far.

If you're lucky they move on just in time, when the environment is still ripe, and greatness happens. 

 

Stepping away from what you love is hard but often it ends up best for all.

 

Recommend listening to the Paul Maurice presser from Friday. Maurice is a man who recognized his limitations and, well ... 

 

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17 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Two words: Brent Vigen coached at NDSU, he knows that system well because he built it with Bohl.

Vigen's team will be ready for what NDSU brings. 

I predict NDSU will run base offense the first half (establish) and they'll try to confuse the freshman MSU QB on defense. If that works, NDSU will have a halftime lead. If it doesn't NDSU will find a play no one expected in the appendices of their playbook that'll swing momentum their way. 

But, again, Vigen knows all that too. 

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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Duluth (you know who) had a FB coach that got them to a level but not beyond. He left and the next guy, first year, got Duluth a DII FB title (two in three years actually). 

North Dakota had a coach that got them to a level but never beyond. That coach left for PHI, and a first year guy got an NCAA DI title. 

Montana State had a guy get them to a level. Vigen comes in and first year he's playing in Frisco. 

STL was dead last at Christmas a couple years back, and new guy got them a Cup in half a season. 

Heck, WPG just had Paul Maurice resign on Friday. Why? His words paraphrased -> they need a new voice; he could only get them to a certain level

 

Sometimes guys, realized or not, are "to a level" guys.

They can get you just so far.

If you're lucky they move on just in time, when the environment is still ripe, and greatness happens. 

 

Stepping away from what you love is hard but often it ends up best for all.

 

Recommend listening to the Paul Maurice presser from Friday. Maurice is a man who recognized his limitations and, well ... 

 

...and then you have coaches like Scott Sandelin, who has never won a league title, and it took him ten years before he won his first national title.  Now he is considered among the elite coaches in college hockey.  

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10 hours ago, nd1sufan said:

Can he catch Christian Watson if he is healthy? Because they had no answer for him 2 years ago.

That was 2 years ago and you have as many catches as Watson does in this year's FCS playoffs.

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26 minutes ago, tnt said:

...and then you have coaches like Scott Sandelin, who has never won a league title, and it took him ten years before he won his first national title.  Now he is considered among the elite coaches in college hockey.  

Indeed. 

Is Sandy circa 2001 the same Sandy circa 2011 or circa 2021 in regard to coaching and game management, or did he adapt and adjust, re-invent himself? 

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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Indeed. 

Is Sandy circa 2001 the same Sandy circa 2011 or circa 2021 in regard to coaching and game management, or did he adapt and adjust, re-invent himself? 

Sandy adjusted and had to build the program up from nothing 

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Up to the National Title game NDSU has lost once (@SDSU) and its next two closest games were a six-point win at home (JMU) and a six-point win on the road (UND). 

UND is that close.

All the little things, from false starts to clock management, from assignment sharp to play calling, need to get cleaned up to get over the hump. 

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28 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Up to the National Title game NDSU has lost once (@SDSU) and its next two closest games were a six-point win at home (JMU) and a six-point win on the road (UND). 

UND is that close.

All the little things, from false starts to clock management, from assignment sharp to play calling, need to get cleaned up to get over the hump. 

Yep.  Started the year ranked 8th. With the above mentioned short-comings cleaned up, we would all be figuring out our flights to Frisco.

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Willing to bet NDSU and MSU coaches are talking today and tomorrow (and the next) about "assignment sharp" and "head in the game" (false starts, etc) to their teams. 

Willing to bet NDSU and MSU coaches are reviewing their game situation plans (clock, play chart) more than once over the next couple weeks. 

 

One man's dead horse is the fundamentals to the guys still playing. 

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36 minutes ago, homer said:

Keep beating the !@#$ out of that horse.  Not sure it’s dead yet.  

Has this been brought up a lot on this board - yes.  Way more than some would prefer - also yes.  However this Horse won't be dead as long as there is a real possibility of it rearing up its ugly head again next year.

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2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Willing to bet NDSU and MSU coaches are talking today and tomorrow (and the next) about "assignment sharp" and "head in the game" (false starts, etc) to their teams. 

Willing to bet NDSU and MSU coaches are reviewing their game situation plans (clock, play chart) more than once over the next couple weeks. 

 

One man's dead horse is the fundamentals to the guys still playing. 

So deep.

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2 hours ago, Irish said:

Has this been brought up a lot on this board - yes.  Way more than some would prefer - also yes.  However this Horse won't be dead as long as there is a real possibility of it rearing up its ugly head again next year.

Doing the dirty work to keep a program in check, warrior you are. 

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9 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Duluth (you know who) had a FB coach that got them to a level but not beyond. He left and the next guy, first year, got Duluth a DII FB title (two in three years actually). 

North Dakota had a coach that got them to a level but never beyond. That coach left for PHI, and a first year guy got an NCAA DI title. 

Montana State had a guy get them to a level. Vigen comes in and first year he's playing in Frisco. 

STL was dead last at Christmas a couple years back, and new guy got them a Cup in half a season. 

Heck, WPG just had Paul Maurice resign on Friday. Why? His words paraphrased -> they need a new voice; he could only get them to a certain level

 

Sometimes guys, realized or not, are "to a level" guys.

They can get you just so far.

If you're lucky they move on just in time, when the environment is still ripe, and greatness happens. 

 

Stepping away from what you love is hard but often it ends up best for all.

 

Recommend listening to the Paul Maurice presser from Friday. Maurice is a man who recognized his limitations and, well ... 

 

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This comment will be met with significant eye rolling, fairly so, but just asking a question that also reveals my opinion on the topic.

Does playing a team close or even beating another team in a single game actually indicate how close those two programs are?

Is NDSU a better program than the FBS teams it beat on any given year? 

Was USD close to NDSU in 2015 when they beat the Bison(who eventually won the national championship)

Clearly this comment is annoying and self serving, as a fan of NDSU, but I think it’s a pertinent question to ask and brought up to further the discussion.

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2 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

This comment will be met with significant eye rolling, fairly so, but just asking a question that also reveals my opinion on the topic.

Does playing a team close or even beating another team in a single game actually indicate how close those two programs are?

Is NDSU a better program than the FBS teams it beat on any given year? 

Was USD close to NDSU in 2015 when they beat the Bison(who eventually won the national championship)

Clearly this comment is annoying and self serving, as a fan of NDSU, but I think it’s a pertinent question to ask and brought up to further the discussion.

Thanks.  Move along check in this fall.

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5 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

This comment will be met with significant eye rolling, fairly so, but just asking a question that also reveals my opinion on the topic.

Does playing a team close or even beating another team in a single game actually indicate how close those two programs are?

Is NDSU a better program than the FBS teams it beat on any given year? 

Was USD close to NDSU in 2015 when they beat the Bison(who eventually won the national championship)

Clearly this comment is annoying and self serving, as a fan of NDSU, but I think it’s a pertinent question to ask and brought up to further the discussion.

No, by itself it does not without further examination.  Understand your point, yes.

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