Oxbow6 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 ND Covid today.....the good, the bad and the ugly. The good: Active cases down 878. Hospitalizations down 28. The bad: 26 deaths. 1091 new daily positives. The ugly: Dougie still thinks suspending HS sports/organized youth team sports is the answer when yet again today over 50% of the 1091 new positives were between 20-49. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit's Luck Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Wilbur said: No, you taking my point to mean Hilary somehow caused all the divide was what I was talking about pal. Oh. You literally said after Hilary said that, that a line was drawn. Guess you meant it more vaguely than you wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said: Interesting. Would you have link to this? I can't find anything about it online. My bad, it was Lindsey Graham’s race in South Carolina where the Democrats poured tons of money into ads touting the Libertarian candidate in the hope of siphoning off enough votes to lead to a Democratic candidate win. Scummy politics at its worst. I will edit my previous post to correct the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6766034-At-769-deaths-one-in-every-1000-North-Dakotans-has-died-from-COVID-19 "from" or "with"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikejm Posted November 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Mike McFooly would like a couple minutes of your time. McFeely is not, nor ever has been, a journalist. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, mikejm said: McFeely is not, nor ever has been, a journalist. Amen to that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Bison06 said: I agree completely. I would love to see the centrists on both sides of the aisle come together formally and begin a third party. I believe now would be an incredible time and they would gain some serious traction with the right leadership. I'd settle for bi-partisan legislation for federal decriminalization of pot, for starters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Nodak78 said: https://nypost.com/2020/11/14/biden-cancer-initiative-spent-millions-on-payroll-zero-on-research-report/ https://cancerletter.com/articles/20201116_1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: ND Covid today.....the good, the bad and the ugly. The good: Active cases down 878. Hospitalizations down 28. The bad: 26 deaths. 1091 new daily positives. The ugly: Dougie still thinks suspending HS sports/organized youth team sports is the answer when yet again today over 50% of the 1091 new positives were between 20-49. Looking at the spreadsheet the NDDOH puts out there was 5 deaths attributed to COVID yesterday. I wonder where the discrepancy comes from. All the other numbers match up with what you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, NDSU grad said: Looking at the spreadsheet the NDDOH puts out there was 5 deaths attributed to COVID yesterday. I wonder where the discrepancy comes from. All the other numbers match up with what you posted. Could it be one is date of death and the other is date the death is announced? I know that sometimes there's XX that is announced as deaths that day, but it can have deaths from weeks/months back included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, NDSU grad said: Looking at the spreadsheet the NDDOH puts out there was 5 deaths attributed to COVID yesterday. I wonder where the discrepancy comes from. All the other numbers match up with what you posted. I'm assuming Oxbow's number came from What spreadsheet do they put out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hambone said: Could it be one is date of death and the other is date the death is announced? I know that sometimes there's XX that is announced as deaths that day, but it can have deaths from weeks/months back included. Possibly. The total deaths are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: I'm assuming Oxbow's number came from What spreadsheet do they put out? This is a screenshot of the dashboard. Click on the public data download button and it gives you all the raw numbers. The only thing is doesn't break down is deaths and hospitilazations by age, just cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/tue-am-trump-legal-team-zeroes-expulsion-election-observers-data To augment the case, the lawyers are securing affidavits and declarations from citizens who allege: they went to the polls to vote and were told they had already voted when they had not cast ballots they are listed as voting in a state where they did not cast ballots they witnessed fraudulent or improper vote counting activities as observers or election officials extreme statistical anomalies uncovered in a handful of battleground states' vote totals are prima facie proof of fraudulent or untoward vote collection and counting activities The request to discount large numbers of votes is a high legal and political hurdle to surmount, but it is not without precedent. In the last year, North Carolina threw out an entire special congressional election in its 9th District after evidence emerged that mail-in ballots were tainted by a ballot harvesting scheme tied to a GOP operative. And in New Jersey, a state judge earlier this year ordered new municipal election in Patterson, N.J., after evidence of ballot fraud emerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, NDSU grad said: This is a screenshot of the dashboard. Click on the public data download button and it gives you all the raw numbers. The only thing is doesn't break down is deaths and hospitilazations by age, just cases. 55 minutes ago, Hambone said: Could it be one is date of death and the other is date the death is announced? I know that sometimes there's XX that is announced as deaths that day, but it can have deaths from weeks/months back included. That would be my assumption as well. It appears in the "public data download" they are backdating the deaths to the date the death actually occurred. In their tweets, they identify the number of deaths reported for the day, rather than the number that actually occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Minnesota and Manitoba were doing so well.....wtf happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, mikejm said: McFeely is not, nor ever has been, a journalist. Something to agree on!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Minnesota and Manitoba were doing so well.....wtf happened? Mitigation efforts, particularly complete lockdowns, will keep case numbers down. But you have to keep those measures in place for perpetuity, or until a vaccine is developed. That’s just not a logical option. We’ve seen all across Europe, the east coast, and Israel what happens when strict mitigation measures are relaxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Hambone said: Could it be one is date of death and the other is date the death is announced? I know that sometimes there's XX that is announced as deaths that day, but it can have deaths from weeks/months back included. The biggest problem I have with the Covid death stats for the upper age limits is that it goes under the assumption that nothing else would have killed them during that time period. If a 40 year old dies while having Covid? That's a number that's hard to ignore. If a 90 year old person in a nursing home that is already on oxygen dies, it's assumed that person somehow still had 5 more years to live. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Minnesota and Manitoba were doing so well.....wtf happened? Virus gonna virus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Honest question, with the number of people in ND that have already had this, and currently have this, and that much of the extremely elderly/ sick already deceased, if there is any type of herd immunity associated with Covid shouldn't the state be getting pretty close to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Since everyone laps up the info put out by the CDC let this soak in..... Compared to 2019 mental health related visits are up 24% ages 5-11 and up 31% up ages 12-17......but that's "data and science" Burgum overlooked and Walz will too in a day or two. ...and if we are honest a good chuck of the blame goes on the teacher associations around this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 8:20 AM, The Sicatoka said: I'm so glad you brought up "January". We were closer than many want to admit to rolling blackouts in January 2019. It was overcast, and it was colder than -22F so the auto-disable on the wind towers was active (to prevent damage from cold). https://news.minnkota.com/post/polar-vortex-reflections Many don't like when I say we need battery technology to advance before we can go renewables (solar, wind). Here's the proof. The only way the lights stayed on was fossil (coal, nat gas) and nuclear, and managing down baseline load (off-peak loads being shut off). ... and we know Mister Biden and Missus Harris' views on fossil. We are moving closer and closer to blackouts as utilities decide to retire their reliable coal plants in favor of wind. Their backup plan? Buy from the grid..... but what if there is no excess power? These utilities need to be held accountable if they fail to provide power to their customers. No protections for these power monopolies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Honest question, with the number of people in ND that have already had this, and currently have this, and that much of the extremely elderly/ sick already deceased, if there is any type of herd immunity associated with Covid shouldn't the state be getting pretty close to it? There's been 65967 confirmed cases of Covid in North Dakota. There's many models that try to determine the number of true infections based on positivity rate and confirmed cases. Conservatively, you can probably multiply confirmed cases by 4 to get true infections. That would put North Dakota at 263,868 infections as of today. Thats' 34.7% of the population. About halfway there, but that doesn't mean daily infections doesn't start to drop before that. Also, it appears the 80+ demographic is getting infected at a greater rate than the general population in North Dakota, possibly due to long term care settings. I think this is why hospitalizations will continue their downward trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Since everyone laps up the info put out by the CDC let this soak in..... Compared to 2019 mental health related visits are up 24% ages 5-11 and up 31% up ages 12-17......but that's "data and science" Burgum overlooked and Walz will too in a day or two. ...and if we are honest a good chuck of the blame goes on the teacher associations around this country. I would add many public health officials to that list. Apparently they don't care about mental health, especially childrens'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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