State Of The Program

[Shawn-O]

4 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

How so?

Likely matchup with a lower ranked team that can only afford the minimum bid.  Guarantee you we don't end up in Thibodaux, LA at 8-3.   

[MrEdway]

57 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

https://undfootball360.com/news/hawks-fall-to-the-colonels/

They vented a bit over losing the bid to Nicholls........

"Which leads me to my next rant:  how did UND not lock up a home game?  Here are the facts:  UND was 6-0 at home and looked pretty damn good in most all of those games (minus parts of Montana State & UNC).  They were 1-4 on the road and looked horrible at times but did rebound with a solid effort out at Weber State.  Still, they were 1-4.

The UND offense is much, much better inside the cozy confines of the Alerus Center.  In 2019, they scored 47, 27, 38, 16, 45 & 36 points at home.  On the road they scored 7, 20, 20, 30, and 27.  That’s an average of 35 points at home vs. 21 on the road.

One big thing that UND needs to do to take the next step as a program is to win a playoff game.  They have made the playoffs twice and been a seed one of those times.  But they have never won a playoff game.  This was a very realistic chance at getting that monkey off their back and they got outbid by Nicholls State, who never should outbid UND for anything.  Their athletic budget is around 10 million dollars.  UND’s is right around 22 million.

UND should have hosted this game and I can guarantee they would’ve looked better than they did on Saturday down in Thibodaux. Call it sour grapes, whatever, but if there was ever a time to go big it was with this 2019 edition of UND Football.  6-0 vs. 1-4 is the only reason needed."

If you can't compete on the road, you are a pretender.  Sour grapes.

[UND-1]

1 minute ago, Shawn-O said:

Likely matchup with a lower ranked team that can only afford the minimum bid.  Guarantee you we don't end up in Thibodaux, LA at 8-3.   

The way the brackets got set it was all regional.  Was going to be Nicholls or SELA no matter what cause UNI was getting an easier home game.  

[UND-1]

3 minutes ago, MrEdway said:

If you can't compete on the road, you are a pretender.  Sour grapes.

That may be but why do you think UNI wins their first game every year then loses?  They buy a home win.

Of course UND wasn't going to win the national championship....but could certainly try and buy a home win and go from there.  

[Shawn-O]

8 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

The way the brackets got set it was all regional.  Was going to be Nicholls or SELA no matter what cause UNI was getting an easier home game.  

I'll take your word for it since I'm likely talking to a 360 guy.   The whole regional setup of this championship is very rinky-dink, but that's a debate for another time.  

[UND1983]

6 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

That may be but why do you think UNI wins their first game every year then loses?  They buy a home win.

Of course UND wasn't going to win the national championship....but could certainly try and buy a home win and go from there.  

the last three years Nicholls has bid big to get that first game at home.

[geaux_sioux]

50 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

All I want for Christmas is a stout 300# NT that will chew up blocks and push them in the backfield.   That alone with cure must of the rushing defense.

I’ll take two please

[UND1983]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I’ll take two please

No doubt!

[Nodak78]

6 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I’ll take two please

Good Idea but I feel guilty being greedy.  In that case I get one and you get one.  UND gets both of them.

[geaux_sioux]

35 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

Good Idea but I feel guilty being greedy.  In that case I get one and you get one.  UND gets both of them.

Peyton Lotysz could be one of those guys. He’s got a really wide frame. If he plays like his dad he could be the badass we need as an anchor.

[Siouxperman8]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Process? What process?

Bubba had a goal of 7 wins; he said as much. 

 

A goal is not a process or a system. 

 

I think this is a mis-characterization of what he was saying.  You really think that since we got to 7 wins so they were satisfied?

That might be what the sound bite was but if you talked with him or anyone on the staff and they had a chance to elaborate they would tell you something like:

We knew the minimum needed to make the playoffs was 7 wins so that was the bottom line goal and then we'll get after it in the playoffs from there.

[NDSU grad]

16 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Peyton Lotysz could be one of those guys. He’s got a really wide frame. If he plays like his dad he could be the badass we need as an anchor.

Saw Peyton play one time.  Looked more like an o-lineman I thought.  But I think he will be really good on that side of the ball.

[geaux_sioux]

2 minutes ago, NDSU grad said:

Saw Peyton play one time.  Looked more like an o-lineman I thought.  But I think he will be really good on that side of the ball.

His old man was an animal so I’m hoping for more of that. Haven’t seen him play in person but I’ve seen him in person and he’s got a frame on him. 300 lbs will come easy for him and it can be a good 300.

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

His old man was an animal so I’m hoping for more of that. Haven’t seen him play in person but I’ve seen him in person and he’s got a frame on him. 300 lbs will come easy for him and it can be a good 300.

with if coach p wants him at a lean 285lbs? was baukol at und when greg played?

[geaux_sioux]

5 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

with if coach p wants him at a lean 285lbs? was baukol at und when greg played?

I really hope coach P learned from this year. And no, Baukol was not here in 1998. I think his first year as an assistant was like 2003 or something.

[UND-FB-FAN]

49 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

I'd rather hear him talking about how his system is directionally correct in getting the team to the playoffs but as the loss indicates his system needs to be adjusted because he knows there's more out there. 

 

NDSU doesn't win because of team goals.
NDSU wins because they've found a system that works. 

 

UND's current system has flaws and it needs to be adjusted. Hopefully Bubba can put his thinking cap on and figure it out, or someone else will have to in a couple years. 

UND needs to better emphasize the offensive and defensive lines. UND could not run the ball nor stop the run in 2019. Fitting it led to their demise in the FCS playoffs. That is #1 area of concern for me. I certainly understand that this is not the goal of Bubba and UND, (i.e., they want to be physical) but they have to find better linemen and better refine their system to improve them. It is not good right now. 

The strength and conditioning program is #2 for me. I honestly think the system run by Baukol is not good enough and a change should be looked at. I don't have faith that he can do better. He is set in his ways. UND doesn't develop their players enough from their freshmen year to their senior year. They are consistently on the smaller side and unable to physically dominate in one on one battles like other MVFC programs' players are able. The physique of NDSU, SDSU, UNI and even Illinois State players is at a different level compared to the UND players. 

[Irish]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

UND's current system has flaws and it needs to be adjusted. Hopefully Bubba can put his thinking cap on and figure it out, or someone else will have to in a couple years. 

UND needs to better emphasize the offensive and defensive lines. UND could not run the ball nor stop the run in 2019. Fitting it led to their demise in the FCS playoffs. That is #1 area of concern for me. I certainly understand that this is not the goal of Bubba and UND, (i.e., they want to be physical) but they have to find better linemen and better refine their system to improve them. It is not good right now. 

The strength and conditioning program is #2 for me. I honestly think the system run by Baukol is not good enough and a change should be looked at. I don't have faith that he can do better. He is set in his ways. UND doesn't develop their players enough from their freshmen year to their senior year. They are consistently on the smaller side and unable to physically dominate in one on one battles like other MVFC programs' players are able. The physique of NDSU, SDSU, UNI and even Illinois State players is at a different level compared to the UND players. 

It's almost like this is in the job description for UND - especially in the football program

"Are you hardworking?" - "yes" - "good"

"Are you loyal?" - "yes" - "good"

"Are you extremely set in your ways?" - "yes" - "You're hired".

 

[Hans8891]

As a bit of good news, I do believe that recruiting quarterbacks and receivers will be easier under Danny’s offensive scheme.  What great receiving recruit is salivating at going to a program whose head coach continually talks about a four yards and a cloud of dust.  There is a reason why we lost Kenny Golladay.  Hopefully that will be better in the future and Schuster does have the ability to look downfield as evidenced by the one game he got to show us what he can do.  Our big receivers have a place.  Unfortunately we had an entire receiving corps of clones that all fit that description and used no speedsters to stretch the field with separation.  Of course, that would have required kett to throw longer than 5 yards as well.  Running game would have been helped with any sort of vertical threat and a qb that looked more than 5 yards downfield.  That should be much better next year with Schuster.  Get Izzy and McKinney healthy with maag and that could be an interesting receiving corps.

The trenches definitely need to be bigger and more physical to do well in the mvfc.  Hopefully that will be a focus in the offseason.

We need consistency on d.  The Davis and Montana state games we showed glimpses of brilliance when we hit, tackled, and pursued like und d of old, but that was short lived and unfortunately not a consistent effort in every game.  Hopefully will improve next year...

we weren’t always pretty but did show we could have Played with everyone other than the bison, who were just clearly better.  No reason to think we can’t be even better next year despite the mvfc schedule.  Here is hoping for improvement in a number of areas and a better season next year.

[bison73]

9 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

My question is:  Why was this not discovered prior to playing?  Did he hide his injury or did the coaching staff not notice?

As for the separated shoulder, no way does anyone play with that. Sorry but I call BS.

Either answer will be a bit concerning. 

Happens all the time.

[Bison06]

Not all speed is created equal. What you’re looking for is a player or two who has the ability to change directions and accelerate very quickly. Players like that are scary to cover, “twitchy” is a word sports analysts will sometimes use to describe this type of player. 
 

So a player can be very fast, maybe runs a nice 100 or 200 time, but not “twitchy” and their shuttle time will be just ok.

Think Dressler. Though he had both types of speed.

[geaux_sioux]

41 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Not all speed is created equal. What you’re looking for is a player or two who has the ability to change directions and accelerate very quickly. Players like that are scary to cover, “twitchy” is a word sports analysts will sometimes use to describe this type of player. 
 

So a player can be very fast, maybe runs a nice 100 or 200 time, but not “twitchy” and their shuttle time will be just ok.

Think Dressler. Though he had both types of speed.

Izzy is a good example of this on our current roster. Great straight line speed but struggles horizontally and diagonally. That’s why when he’s in it’s been mostly posts and goes. If he can learn to zig and zag at speed he could be dangerous.

[Siouxperfan7]

Two things that every great football team does well.  Running the ball and stopping the run.  Until UND can show they can do this on a consistent basis, they will never be a great team.  these used to be two things that this program could hang their hat on. Need to get back to these basic functions.  Freund can come up with all the double reverse, half back option pases he wants.  But until they can consistently run the ball, the offense will never be as good as it could be.  And that starts with recruiting bigger offensive lineman.  Can't get it done with 260 pound lineman.  On the other side of the ball, we need to recruit like we used to to be able to run the 3-4 that is successful against the run.  giving up 4-5 yard a carry to opposing teams isn't going to cut it.  Whether it is scheme, play calls, or just getting the right guys in there, something has to change.

We are at a turning point in this program.  Either we make the necessary changes across the board to be able to compete in the MVFC, or we continue down the same road and settle as a middle of the road Valley team that is a fringe playoff team with 6-7 wins every year.

[Mama Sue]

Well said Siouxperfan... this is more than just Bubba

Bubba=the playing field

Someone ( undefined and that is the problem)= the game experience, sponsorship, and marketing

[FlinFlan80]

19 hours ago, Shawn-O said:

"Trust the process" rings hollow after about Year 5 in my opinion.   

And after 5 years we have been constantly improving. To think of the Mussman years compared to know I think we have came a long ways. We still have a long ways to go, but I believe the improvements will continue to show. 

[geaux_sioux]

5 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said:

And after 5 years we have been constantly improving. To think of the Mussman years compared to know I think we have came a long ways. We still have a long ways to go, but I believe the improvements will continue to show. 

And yet I would argue our 2015 team was our best of the D1 era.