Cratter Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 "Did Notre Dame get a new name and logo?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Well thanks for setting me straight that the vocal minority is always right but isn't how this nickname/logo mess started to begin with? .........and my looks have been questioned often too in case you're wondering. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Please continue to fabricate statements out of thin air on my behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: Is it a race? Like the window for selling merchandise needs to open on 8/1 and is closing soon after? WTF are you even talking about. Funny how people now think the interlocking ND is the greatest logo ever. What part of "the whole package is coming in the near future" don't you understand? Maybe UND should release a new "updated" Fighting Hawks logo that is so awful, that people will be begging that they don't switch to it and keep the original Fighting Hawks logo!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Maybe UND should release a new "updated" Fighting Hawks logo that is so awful, that people will be begging that they don't switch to it and keep the original Fighting Hawks logo!! Come on now, you're asking for the impossible. let's stay within the realm of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 42 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Come on now, you're asking for the impossible. let's stay within the realm of reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 15 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: One thing we can ALL agree on is THANK GOD we did not end up with some logo like this that is a cartoon bird with teeth!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77iceman Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: You are giving those involved in logo process way way too much credit if you actually think this was the thought process from the get go. Spend $50k on something that you know will need immediate improvements...........don't think so. Just sharing my take on it. I've been in the design field for 20 years, and this looks like a pretty common tactic. And it's not "improvements", so much as it is just getting to see the full library of uses. Again...just my opinion. I have no insider knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, 77iceman said: Just sharing my take on it. I've been in the design field for 20 years, and this looks like a pretty common tactic. And it's not "improvements", so much as it is just getting to see the full library of uses. Again...just my opinion. I have no insider knowledge. It is a smart tactic. UND knew that no matter what they released, people would rip on it. Releasing a base logo now and letting that stew a little bit is smart. People can get all their frustrations out about the logo. Then in mid August when the merchandise comes out with slight modifications that make it look better on shirts, hats, etc, then people will be much more receptive to the new logo. Genius idea if that is what UND is doing. Lucky coincidence if not!! Etiher way, the logo when on new merchandise is going to look a heck of a lot better than the shirt Ed was wearing a couple weeks ago!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 40 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: It is a smart tactic. ... Plus, they got to hear (and see) feedback from people who really, truly do care. (If you're ripping on it, you do care*.) My guess is you'll see an outlined version where the N is cleaned up (to have an upper right feature) and the "D" has a center. My next guess is the hawk will be overlaid onto an outline of the State. (Note use of word "guess" twice; no inside knowledge here either.) *Remember, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 23 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Plus, they got to hear (and see) feedback from people who really, truly do care. (If you're ripping on it, you do care*.) My guess is you'll see an outlined version where the N is cleaned up (to have an upper right feature) and the "D" has a center. My next guess is the hawk will be overlaid onto an outline of the State. (Note use of word "guess" twice; no inside knowledge here either.) *Remember, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. This sounds exactly like what I said on June 23rd. Quote Can someone with some skill trim the letters in black on the logo and make the "D" look like the "D" shown in the script below. It just doesn't look finished to me. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 29 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Plus, they got to hear (and see) feedback from people who really, truly do care. (If you're ripping on it, you do care*.) My guess is you'll see an outlined version where the N is cleaned up (to have an upper right feature) and the "D" has a center. My next guess is the hawk will be overlaid onto an outline of the State. (Note use of word "guess" twice; no inside knowledge here either.) *Remember, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. You're basically saying they released a rough draft of the logo. I dare say that may be wishful thinking. But I agree with your suggested changes and think they are common sense changes most reasonable people could get behind. But I doubt the changes will be that drastic. They'll probably just be an outline for certain color backgrounds and that will be it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: At least I can tell it's not a dove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77iceman Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 quit posting bird teeth!!! ya'll are freakin me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: At least I can tell it's not a dove. Nope, it's a combo of Red Skull, google results for "creepy guy," and a bird of unknown origin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Who ever heard of rotating the color scheme of a logo to work in the context it's being applied. mwc too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Plus, they got to hear (and see) feedback from people who really, truly do care. (If you're ripping on it, you do care*.) My guess is you'll see an outlined version where the N is cleaned up (to have an upper right feature) and the "D" has a center. My next guess is the hawk will be overlaid onto an outline of the State. (Note use of word "guess" twice; no inside knowledge here either.) *Remember, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. My "guess" is that the logo will look just like it does now but with different backgrounds, and outlines. Basically the same differences you see with each interlocking ND logo above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/wjpresidents/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1141091459267006 different colors/backgrounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk E Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 And yet more unhappiness over the logo in the news: http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Bismarck-printing-duo-UND-graduates-disappointed-with-Fighting-Hawks-logo-385764191.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Hawk E said: And yet more unhappiness over the logo in the news: http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Bismarck-printing-duo-UND-graduates-disappointed-with-Fighting-Hawks-logo-385764191.html UND requested a complete graphic identity package, not just a logo and nothing prevented these guys from submitting a proposal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, Hawk E said: And yet more unhappiness over the logo in the news: http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Bismarck-printing-duo-UND-graduates-disappointed-with-Fighting-Hawks-logo-385764191.html O look another terrible alternate logo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk E Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 geaux_sioux, you have a right to your opinion just as those in the news story have a right to theirs, please don't be so condescending when you reply to things with which you don't agree. You are very good at wielding that as weapon when you disagree with a statement; it could be construed as a subtle form of bullying. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchyAlum11 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: O look another terrible alternate logo. Generic to be sure. But it looks like a sports logo as compared to the Generic corprate logo SME got $50,000 to create. Now I will admit I have seen some adjustments on here that make it look like a decent shoulder patch logo, but not a good primary logo. However the current logo dosen't even work well a shoulder patch logo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 3 hours ago, ArchyAlum11 said: Generic to be sure. But it looks like a sports logo as compared to the Generic corprate logo SME got $50,000 to create. Now I will admit I have seen some adjustments on here that make it look like a decent shoulder patch logo, but not a good primary logo. However the current logo dosen't even work well a shoulder patch logo. It sure seems like they were given a set of criteria & thoughts to work by. Meaning it seems like UND wanted the logo to be simple and clean. If UND wanted detail they would have detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Hawk E said: geaux_sioux, you have a right to your opinion just as those in the news story have a right to theirs, please don't be so condescending when you reply to things with which you don't agree. You are very good at wielding that as weapon when you disagree with a statement; it could be construed as a subtle form of bullying. The opinions and the "bullying" (your word not mine) go both ways, sir/ma'am. Thicker skin might be in order. Just saying..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 5 hours ago, ArchyAlum11 said: Generic to be sure. But it looks like a sports logo as compared to the Generic corprate logo SME got $50,000 to create. Now I will admit I have seen some adjustments on here that make it look like a decent shoulder patch logo, but not a good primary logo. However the current logo dosen't even work well a shoulder patch logo. I would agree that looks more like a sports logo. Generic.....yes but how many ways can one invent a logo for completely overused sports nickname...Hawks. All that being said I'd be much more willing to purchase something with that Hawk logo vs what we have now. Just my opinion but if UND had this newly created Hawks logo and kept the interlocking ND logo as an alternative I think from a marketing standpoint it would be much better off. I have yet to find one person I have actually talked face to face with.......UND supporter or not...... that likes the current logo. Not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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