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[jdub27]

there has been a massive shift from north stars to fighting hawks on campus based on what I have seen. Lots of support building for it.

Had not heard that. Thanks for the info.

[SIOUXFAN97]

Why?In my opinion, Wayne is decent guy. I think he does a good job as the Sports editor of the Grand Forks Herald.

virg did a good job covering sioux hockey but brad's coverage is borderline stalkerish...its time for wayne to retire so he can go to the races and oogle over dobmeiers "engine" until 1am and not worry about a deadline

[SIOUXFAN97]

RRHS starts going by red riders. Problem solved. They don't deserve a state nickname anyway. 

yes. rrhs should change/alter their nickname if/when roughriders wins...it would also make the central people feel better in two ways...they lost their old nickname to the pc crowd and in the end through und losing our nickname because the pc crowd rrhs loses theirs too...plus "i could never root for the riders" people that went to central don't have to worry about then...

 

call em the presidents, the red riders, the cavs, the teddy's, ....

[Siouxperfan7]

yes. rrhs should change/alter their nickname if/when roughriders wins...it would also make the central people feel better in two ways...they lost their old nickname to the pc crowd and in the end through und losing our nickname because the pc crowd rrhs loses theirs too...plus "i could never root for the riders" people that went to central don't have to worry about then...

 

call em the presidents, the red riders, the cavs, the teddy's, ....

RRHS - Riders

UND - Roughriders

Problem solved!!!

[Fetch]

U Roughrider fans better hope not many GF Residents or GFC or Red River Alum. Vote because I have not talked to anyone who wants UND to be Roughriders

I really hope the final 2 are Nodaks & Fighting Hawks either would good

[tnt]

U Roughrider fans better hope not many GF Residents or GFC or Red River Alum. Vote because I have not talked to anyone who wants UND to be Roughriders

I really hope the final 2 are Nodaks & Fighting Hawks either would good

I think you are being disingenuous, because if you really thought that most people were against Roughriders from around here, you wouldn't be constantly rehashing how they can't have the same nickname as someone in town.  

[Fetch]

Never said "can't " just not a good idea to locals

Plus I don't think current students like Roughriders either

I wish we knew what current Athletes  think ?

I really believe former Athletes & long time fans will always  personally be Fighting Sioux Forever

Edited September 24, 2015 by Fetch

[ericpnelson]

If you change the whole thing to University of Grand Forks Nodaks, then you get your wish, and we solve the redundancy problem.

[Siouxperfan7]

U Roughrider fans better hope not many GF Residents or GFC or Red River Alum. Vote because I have not talked to anyone who wants UND to be Roughriders

I really hope the final 2 are Nodaks & Fighting Hawks either would good

I am a RRHS alum and up until about 4 months ago a lifelong GF resident.  I will be voting for Roughriders.  I am not the only one either.  So you need to talk to more people.  Now you know at least one!! 

[tnt]

Never said "can't " just not a good idea to locals

Plus I don't think current students like Roughriders either

I wish we knew what current Athletes  think ?

I really believe former Athletes & long time fans will always be personally be Fighting Sioux

If the Sioux nickname had never been used before, I think current students wouldn't want that now either, because I don't think many have a deep appreciation for history.  

[geaux_sioux]

Not meant to be a slam, more curiosity, but do you have the same feeling about the Illinois Illini, and the Utah Utes?

Nodak isn't a tribe. Not the same

[fight on sioux]

there has been a massive shift from north stars to fighting hawks on campus based on what I have seen. Lots of support building for it.

The reason you see this is because the students have seen the drawn up hawk logo with the feathers and think that will be the logo. Unfortunatley, that logo belongs to the Chicago Blackhawks and won't be the logo. I, definitely don't want to be another team to transition to a hawk... so unoriginal.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

FYI, GF Herald poll currently has Fighting Hawks at about 30%, RR at 27.5%, NS at 16.54%, Nodaks at 16.13% and Sundogs at 10.1% . I'm thinking a RR vs. Fighting Hawks run-off as well...

 

Edited September 24, 2015 by InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

[SWSiouxMN]

The reason you see this is because the students have seen the drawn up hawk logo with the feathers and think that will be the logo. Unfortunatley, that logo belongs to the Chicago Blackhawks and won't be the logo. I, definitely don't want to be another team to transition to a hawk... so unoriginal.

That and the Mafia Theory (keep the word fighting) are the two biggest reasons that I have seen and heard about Fighting Hawks when it comes to students.  I am a bit surprised by this movement, even with the logo out there. 

From what I have seen and heard, and I could be off on this one, the student's on campus order would look something like this

FH

NS

RR

Nodaks

Sundogs

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

im thinking that the fh in the lead bc students voting online on herald webpage...because they are constantly online...when it comes to alumni and what not that are actually doing productive things (working) instead of constantly being online the vote will go heavy for the RR...

Edited September 24, 2015 by SIOUXFAN97

[Sioux-cia]

Those of you who think RRHS will change their name to Red River or whatever are spitting in the wind. Why would they change their name when it was theirs to begin with?

[SiouxFan100]

I am a Life long North Dakota resident and UND grad. Will be voting for nodaks. Don't understand why some are offended by it. It is unique

 

Edited September 25, 2015 by SiouxFan100

[Cratter]

U Roughrider fans better hope not many GF Residents or GFC or Red River Alum. Vote because I have not talked to anyone who wants UND to be Roughriders

I really hope the final 2 are Nodaks & Fighting Hawks either would good

Myself and quite a few of my fellow Central alumni (and UND grads) like Roughriders best.

[Fetch]

I see Dean Blais predicts Nodaks 

 

[iluvdebbies]

North Dakota North Dakotas is really growing on me.

[Class of '72]

Why I support the Fighting Hawks

While it is time to move on, that doesn’t mean to forget a proud tradition. “Fighting” maintains a piece of that tradition. The Hawk is a sacred bird to many tribes, also maintaining some tradition. As a previous post of a video shows, Hawks eat Gophers. UND has a world renowned aviation program. The root word for aviation is the Latin word avis: bird. Others have provided solid reasons for not choosing the other options. I don’t wish to be redundant in stating my opposition to those four.

By the way, I suggested the Fighting Attorneys or Fighting Lawyers so we would be justified in yelling, “Go Sue!”  Not sure why that didn’t get more consideration. :-)

[Speed_Kills]

 

I'm usually a fly on the wall here but thought I'd come out of the shadows to put in my thoughts.  DISCLAIMER I do not have a vote in this process and absolutely wish they could keep the Fighting Sioux moniker. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen and the process will go through as advertised and the nickname will be one of the five on the list. Here are my preferences if I had a say in the vote:

1. Roughriders. Yes, a high school in town has this name. So what? This is about a national brand, pride, and marketing. The nickname is unique to the NCAA, has the best logo potential out of the candidates in my opinion, and represents the state of ND. ND is known as the Roughrider State and our highest annual award is the Roughrider Award. This is my favorite for all these reasons and would 100% be my vote if I had one.

2. Fighting Hawks. I'd like it better if it lost the Fighting part. Hawks is safe, unimaginative, and the go-to name for any school required to change their name (thanks, NCAA). That being said, a great logo could make up for a boring name. People rally behind great logos and that's a huge reason why I think people are so passionate about losing the Fighting Sioux nickname. Fighting Hawks is still a distant 2nd due to lack of creativity.

3. North Stars. This one could be 2b. I like the name. I like the logo possibilities. I like that it would be unique to the NCAA. I don't care that MN had a professional hockey team with the same name. I do care that MN is known as the North Star State, though. It just seems a little off that we would borrow another state's title. That's my only problem with it. That being said, I'd be okay with any of my top 3.

4. Nodaks. Just no. I don't buy the "it's a derogatory name for people from ND" argument. Nevertheless, it's just not a good name. In fact, it's really bad. The phonetics of it alone seems to epitomize the 'hick' stereotype. It's also the worst possibility in terms of a logo. What the heck does a Nodak look like? How do you represent that with a good logo? This is just an awful option.

5. Sundogs. Not only no... but hell no. Yes, it's unique. Unfortunately, the reason it's unique is because it's THAT bad. A weather phenomenon that essential looks like a rainbow around the sun when we hit sub-zero temperatures. Man, how did no one else snag that? The only nice thing I have to say about this finalist is that it's still a better nickname than Golden Gophers. Sundogs or Nodaks would be extremely disappointing.

[JohnboyND7]

1. NoDaks

2. Sundogs

The rest are awful and one is a blatant ripoff of the local high school.

[Siouxphan27]

alright, I know you've all been waiting to hear from the voice of reason; so here I am.  

first, 3 choices that are out:

1.  Sundogs- I don't have a problem with it, (yes i'm aware of B.R.I.D.G.E.S.) it's unique and a lot of things could be done logo-wise. But, there's a lot of people adamantly opposed to it, it will not get unified support if chosen, so it will not get my vote.

2.  North Stars- Nice name, but makes no sense given our neighbors to the east.  so it's out.

3.  Rough Riders-  Nice faux history story for 30 second ND Tourism ads, but a poor nickname choice.  To think this process started with the idea of possibly honoring/recognizing something great about North Dakota, its pioneers, its industries, its flagship U....heck ANYTHING "north Dakota".... and yet the only choice left that attempts to accomplish this is not even historically accurate, as its assembled members never even set foot in north Dakota.  Too many degrees of separation to an entirely different time in Teddy Roosevelt's life to choose this as a name.   It would be like remembering when Bill Clinton was president and visited north Dakota a couple of times, and recalling he said he liked it here, so because he liked us, we decided to go with the name UND Saxophones.  No Thanks.

2 names I'd be ok with:

1st choice-  fighting hawks-  keeps the word fighting in our name. Hawks are everywhere in rural north Dakota.  they are fun to watch, fearless birds of prey.  Yes, there are a lot of other schools with the nickname hawks.  there's a reason for that-apparently it works.  "Fighting", and our new logo, will be our differentiation.  

2nd choice-  Nodaks-   if it caught on and someone came up with a good logo relating to something uniquely north Dakota to market it, I could definitely get behind it. 

remember to vote early, and vote often!

 

 

 

[Oxbow6]

I have read in multiple posts here the Fighting Hawks is a reasonable choice as it keeps "Fighting" intact and that one word is a carry over from Fighting Sioux.  I was never the smartest kid in class but isn't "Fighting" an adjective...just a describing word? The argument is that at end of this cluster of a process a specific adjective, not an actual noun...person, place or thing, is the overriding factor in selecting a winner among the 5 options remaining with some?  

Yup that make sense to me................