The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: WJC is in Canada.... gold medal game is Jan 5th. Even with gold medal game on Wed Jan 5, and even if it's in Edmonton/Red Deer, I don't see Sanderson or Kleven available against Cornell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: Even with gold medal game on Wed Jan 5, and even if it's in Edmonton/Red Deer, I don't see Sanderson or Kleven available against Cornell. Unless they are injured/sick.... they'll both play against Cornell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: Unless they are injured/sick.... they'll both play against Cornell. I agree with this. That's how it's played out in the past. At least when the tournament has been in NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: Unless they are injured/sick.... they'll both play against Cornell. I feel like they shouldn’t isn’t playing for UND more important that WJC? Idk… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 59 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: Unless they are injured/sick.... they'll both play against Cornell. I agree, I see no reason to hold them out, and I am sure they'll want to play, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 55 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: Unless they are injured/sick.... they'll both play against Cornell. Despite where we sit right now, the NCAA tourney isn't necessarily a given, especially if they drop the ball against Cornell. I would expect if they can play they will at least be in the lineup and let the game dictate ice time depending on how grueling the World Juniors are. Those games are too important for pairwise to try and take a chance at getting by without two of your best defensemen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevin G Posted December 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Goon said: I agree, I see no reason to hold them out, and I am sure they'll want to play, too. They'll want to...the question is, Will Kleven get out of the penalty box in time to catch the flight home? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Kevin G said: They'll want to...the question is, Will Klevin get out of the penalty box in time to catch the flight home? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Kevin G said: They'll want to...the question is, Will Klevin get out of the penalty box in time to catch the flight home? Well whether he is in the penalty box or on the ice one thing is certain the other team is 100% aware and focused as to his whereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2021 Kleven merely falls into the long line of UND defensemen that remind you to keep your head up. Kleven, Smaby, Greene, Finley, MacWilliam, Commodore, etc, etc, etc,... We just haven't had one of that vintage for a while. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbone Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 hours ago, FightingSU said: I feel like they shouldn’t isn’t playing for UND more important that WJC? Idk… WJC is pretty important for these athletes and has been supported heavily by the coaches, many of whom have had the rare opportunity to participate in the World Juniors and represent their home country themselves. 6-8 games on the world stage against the best in the world for the age group in exchange for missing an exhibition game and two non conference games. I know what I would wish for as a coach for my athlete ….maybe the answer is less blue chippas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodbuster Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: Kleven merely falls into the long line of UND defensemen that remind you to keep your head up. Kleven, Smaby, Greene, Finley, MacWilliam, Commodore, etc, etc, etc,... We just haven't had one of that vintage for a while. And they all had a target on their backs with the refs because of reputations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Sodbuster said: And they all had a target on their backs with the refs because of reputations. A reputation created by poor officiating creating a circular problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Okay, who had put a bet on Louis Jamernik leading the NCHC in goals at New Years? And … I wouldn’t bet against him finishing the season there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, farce poobah said: Okay, who had put a bet on Louis Jamernik leading the NCHC in goals at New Years? And … I wouldn’t bet against him finishing the season there. Is he seriously ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Sodbuster said: And they all had a target on their backs with the refs because of reputations. It's amazing what you can do when you know the referee is looking at your teammate and not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, FightingSU said: Is he seriously ? No. 'farce poobah' just went all Don Adam and made it up. Or ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: No. 'farce poobah' just went all Don Adam and made it up. Or ... Wow crazy. Yeah. I never would have bet that! Guess we do have some firepower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 15 hours ago, farce poobah said: Okay, who had put a bet on Louis Jamernik leading the NCHC in goals at New Years? And … I wouldn’t bet against him finishing the season there. With apologies, I'm going to retract this one. I was browsing NCHC's statistics pages, sorted by Goals Scored, and up came (still comes) three players tied with 6 goals each (in conference games only): Ethen Frank of WMU, Louis Jamernik, and Denver's Carter Mazur. But, upon further searching, I see that the NCHC site hasn't yet posted the box score for Western's Friday win over Omaha 4-2, and CHN shows Frank as scoring two goals that night. So, to the best of my knowledge, Ethen Frank leads the NCHC with 8 goals scored. My enthusiasm for Louis Jamernik's play is unquenched, and the observation he's getting better each game and getting some stability and chemistry with line mates, still makes me think the end of season could find him on top of the Goals Scored chart. Again, my apologies for the error. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, farce poobah said: With apologies, I'm going to retract this one. I was browsing NCHC's statistics pages, sorted by Goals Scored, and up came (still comes) three players tied with 6 goals each (in conference games only): Ethen Frank of WMU, Louis Jamernik, and Denver's Carter Mazur. But, upon further searching, I see that the NCHC site hasn't yet posted the box score for Western's Friday win over Omaha 4-2, and CHN shows Frank as scoring two goals that night. So, to the best of my knowledge, Ethen Frank leads the NCHC with 8 goals scored. My enthusiasm for Louis Jamernik's play is unquenched, and the observation he's getting better each game and getting some stability and chemistry with line mates, still makes me think the end of season could find him on top of the Goals Scored chart. Again, my apologies for the error. I met Carter Mazur and his dad and grandpa when they were in town for the series. I was staying at the Canad. Really REALLY friendly dad and gramps - Carter was really friendly as well. Had a couple beers with his dad and gramps and spoke about Carter being signed to the Red Wings etc. Will be fun to see where he ends up as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin G Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 22 hours ago, Kevin G said: They'll want to...the question is, Will Kleven get out of the penalty box in time to catch the flight home? I kid because I love. And I do love Kleven's game; I just wish he'd be a bit more disciplined. One of my earliest memories of Sioux hockey was watching Jim Archibald being skated over to the penalty box by a referee. And it seemed like every time Archibald was on the ice, he ended up going to the penalty box. He seemed like a man among boys sometimes. Kleven reminds me of Archibald a little bit, even though Archibald was a forward. For funsies, I looked up Archibald's stats. Look at those goals...and those penalty minutes. Year Team League GP G A Pts PIM 1981-82 U. of North Dakota WCHA 41 10 16 26 96 1982-83 U. of North Dakota WCHA 33 7 14 21 91 1983-84 U. of North Dakota WCHA 44 21 15 36 156 1984-85 U. of North Dakota WCHA 41 37 24 61 197 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Kevin G said: I kid because I love. And I do love Kleven's game; I just wish he'd be a bit more disciplined. One of my earliest memories of Sioux hockey was watching Jim Archibald being skated over to the penalty box by a referee. And it seemed like every time Archibald was on the ice, he ended up going to the penalty box. He seemed like a man among boys sometimes. Kleven reminds me of Archibald a little bit, even though Archibald was a forward. For funsies, I looked up Archibald's stats. Look at those goals...and those penalty minutes. Year Team League GP G A Pts PIM 1981-82 U. of North Dakota WCHA 41 10 16 26 96 1982-83 U. of North Dakota WCHA 33 7 14 21 91 1983-84 U. of North Dakota WCHA 44 21 15 36 156 1984-85 U. of North Dakota WCHA 41 37 24 61 197 I wonder how many of those penalties and minutes were offsetting. I doubt the box scores exist anymore, so actual numbers couldn't be re-created. My recollection is a lot of fighting majors where he drew an opponent into the box with him. (5+10 or 2+2+10) If he was going to give the opponent a power play, he was getting his money's worth in dealing out pain. But yeah, I'll concede that Kleven deals out pain. Its just that the game has changed so much. In the 1980's with the average score of say 6-5, giving away one powerplay or two wasn't such as big deal compared to the 2020's where the scoring averages are half of that. P.S. Archibald's PIM at UND are much less than when he played Juniors at Moose Jaw in the SJHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJHovey Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I see that Cornell basically went to code red today due to Covid. Shutdown athletics for right now. Will be curious to see if that impacts their visit the first weekend in January. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, SJHovey said: I see that Cornell basically went to code red today due to Covid. Shutdown athletics for right now. Will be curious to see if that impacts their visit the first weekend in January. 2 more weeks....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 5 hours ago, SJHovey said: I see that Cornell basically went to code red today due to Covid. Shutdown athletics for right now. Will be curious to see if that impacts their visit the first weekend in January. - Cornell Jessup, did you order the Code Red? -- You want antibodies? - I think I'm entitled to them. -- You want antibodies?! - I want the boost! -- You can't handle the boost! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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