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I thought i would look up our transfer since Sather has been see what has happened to them. Shockey left UND for Quincy University a division II school and there he mostly started and averaged 10 pts. per game; Tyree Ihenacho went to James Madison was hurt at beginning of the year but he was starting at the end year and he ended up starting 14 games and scoring 3.7 points per game; Sebian Sims went to Northern Kentucky played in seven games and started in 2 games but played total of 48 minutes for the season and averaged 1.6 points; Filip Rebraca went to Iowa and started and played in all their games and average 5.78 points and rebounded 5.6 per game; Aanen Moody went to Souther Utah University in 35 games and started 7 games and averaged 19 minutes a game with 6.5 points per game. He was 3 point specialist for the team; Urbonacius went to University of Mary a division II school where he played in all games and started all games with 10.3 average; Dean Sean Eikens went to University of New Orleans where he played in 14 games and started 7 games and averaged 5.9 points but missed games to do injury; Carlos Ramsey Jr. went to Highland community College a two year college where he played in 25 games and started 24 games and averaged 17.4 minutes. He was name MVP of his team and is being recruited by division I schools; and finally David Atellbauers went to University of Mary and he played 19 games and started 12 games and averaged 8.0 pts per game.

I guess the good thing for these athletes is they are all still playing basketball but with each of them having different levels of success. Sims seems to me his transfer did least for him with limited playing time and team that was not much different to UND i believe in long run, The players that drop down to division ii improved there playing time while still being on scholarship money; Rebraca had best success of the group playing on power 5 team, the rest are playing and filling roll on their teams which may have not been a fit with UND. Finally Ramsey moving back to Jucco was probably right move for him to continue to play basketball.

I guess we will see how this plays out over the next few years but for most part these players move either moved them laterally or they moved down to be able to get playing time. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Dustin said:

What is the basis of this question?

They probably won't be stripped of their title but Kansas, Louisville(who was stripped of their 2013 title), Arizona, Memphis, LSU, NC State, and Auburn likely should not have even been eligible to play in NCAA post season.

This is what happens when you have a corrupt, morally bankrupt organization like the NCAA investigating their dirty Basketball and Football programs. Even with FBI wiretaps and mountains of evidence they have done nothing now for over a 1000 days because these schools make them money.

NCAA-"hey Kansas, your basketball program is corrupt and your coach is slimy and has committed numerous infractions."

Kansas-"Noted. Thank you for the heads up. We are going to give him a lifetime contract."

 

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5 minutes ago, petey23 said:

They probably won't be stripped of their title but Kansas, Louisville(who was stripped of their 2013 title), Arizona, Memphis, LSU, NC State, and Auburn likely should not have even been eligible to play in NCAA post season.

This is what happens when you have a corrupt, morally bankrupt organization like the NCAA investigating their dirty Basketball and Football programs. Even with FBI wiretaps and mountains of evidence they have done nothing now for over a 1000 days because these schools make them money.

NCAA-"hey Kansas, your basketball program is corrupt and your coach is slimy and has committed numerous infractions."

Kansas-"Noted. Thank you for the heads up. We are going to give him a lifetime contract."

 

NCAA = in competence.  Everything they are involved in.  Money talks and they walk.  You have to be a big time program to walk.

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I’m guessing there would be potential for the 2018 Final 4 appearance to be vacated as the time period for that investigation was 16,17&18.  I’m not sure how it would apply here if none of the current players on the roster were gotten through the previous alleged violations (maybe).  If they (governing bodies and investigators) are finally able to adequetely prove thier (KU’s) involvement from that time period, it would affect those teams.  If they continued doing it 3 to 4 years later after the national news coverage, HBO documentaries, the 22 Champions would deserve to be sanctioned- not only for wrong doing but stupidity as the warning shot to stop and that they were being watched came over 4 years ago.

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I really doubt if they will do anything especially to big time large schools look at North Carolina on their scandal few years ago nothing was done there but Minnesota they threw the book at them. This is about the money and if they come to hard down on these big university they are afraid they will just leave the NCAA and do their own deals cutting out the NCAA. TV wants these schools competing and playing on television and money talks its been like this for years. Look back at history number of big schools got a way  with murder on different violations even going back to UCLA and John Wooden so why would anything change now. 

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21 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:

Donlon out at KC.

And with that decision, Anderson (USD) and Harden-Hayes (NDSU) have both re-opened their recruitment after originally committing to transfer to UMKC. Any chance UND has any interest in the former?

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