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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

What gives me a thrill? A democratically elected representative republic working. 

What ires me? Folks that believe other systems will work out better. They won't. Don't believe me. Ask the Soviets, the Chinese, people who lived under Nazi Germany, anyone who lived under Baby Doc Duvalier's terror reign, today's Venezuelans, and the rest of history's ghastly list of other unelected, abusive regimes . 

 

I see.

So, by questioning leadership and protesting in the streets, there is a problem because those people all want the types of systems that would repress those actions?  

Could it be that they see problems with the leadership we have emulating exactly those types of regimes you cited?  

Maybe you see value in "delaying" the upcoming election like Cheeto Don is suggesting? 

Hmmmm.... 

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14 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

What gives me a thrill? A democratically elected representative republic working. 

What ires me? Folks that believe other systems will work out better. They won't. Don't believe me. Ask the Soviets, the Chinese, people who lived under Nazi Germany, anyone who lived under Baby Doc Duvalier's terror reign, today's Venezuelans, and the rest of history's ghastly list of other unelected, abusive regimes . 

 

I agree Sicatoka I think it's funny that socialism has failed everywhere yet some want to bring it here and ruin our great country. 

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8 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

I see.

So, by questioning leadership and protesting in the streets, there is a problem because those people all want the types of systems that would repress those actions?  

Could it be that they see problems with the leadership we have emulating exactly those types of regimes you cited?  

Maybe you see value in "delaying" the upcoming election like Cheeto Don is suggesting? 

Hmmmm.... 

You have TDS level Six. 

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39 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Tea, they did an awesome job teargassing those mothers in Portland.  

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/from-the-administration-that-brought-you-kids-in-cages-its-tear-gassed-moms-1032760/

 

Did that give you a thrill?

"Those mothers" lol you make it sound like they were a group of women waiting to pick their kids up from school. I saw enough interview footage with those ladies to see that they are no different than the loons trying to burn down the courthouse.

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Socialism is the attempt of those unable or unwilling to succeed to take from those that have achieved more.  The argument has been perverted to now go as far as saying that the ability and willingness to succeed has something inherently racist or fascist or privileged behind it.

My immigrant grandparents were dirt poor farmers.  Each successive generation became more successful based on a combination of talent and hard work.  I guess that is just my privilege talking...and the 

 

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35 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Quit harboring the arsons and rioters and may you wouldn’t be caught in the cross fire. Why didn’t they help stop these violent protests?

just because they call themselves moms means nothing! Also didn’t know you could self identify as a mom now too......

Another terrorist group, Hamas also used Human Shields.

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1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

Really gets you excited, doesn't it?  

It does.  Nothing like a little tear gas and some rubber bullets to sort out who's serious about their cause and who isn't.  Portland is so backwards that if they had just left the federal building alone they could have rioted indefinitely......they didn't......and consequences have ensued.  

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48 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

So, by questioning leadership and protesting in the streets, there is a problem because those people all want the types of systems that would repress those actions?  

Is that what I said? Or are you claiming to be some sort of mind reader? (You're not.)

I'm disappointed that folks believe their recourse is the streets. It can be done better by dialog and at the ballot box. And there's far less mayhem and civil destruction. 

You don't believe me? I have three letters for you: A.O.C. <-- She defeated the US House Democrat Caucus Chair Joe Crowley, the #3 Dem in the House, a 10-term incumbent, in what was widely seen as the biggest upset victory in the 2018 midterm election primaries. 

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Do me a favor: Read what you wrote there. 

1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

... there is a problem because those people all want the types of systems that would repress those actions?  

Yes.
These people are effectively doing the same thing as begging to sign their own death warrant. They're saying "please put me under Mao's China" or "put me under Stalin's Soviet Union, including the trip to the Gulag, please."

 

Yes, our current system of government is the worst ... except for all the others tried in human history. 

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6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Is that what I said? Or are you claiming to be some sort of mind reader? (You're not.)

I'm disappointed that folks believe their recourse is the streets. It can be done better by dialog and at the ballot box. And there's far less mayhem and civil destruction. 

You don't believe me? I have three letters for you: A.O.C. <-- She defeated the US House Democrat Caucus Chair Joe Crowley, the #3 Dem in the House, a 10-term incumbent, in what was widely seen as the biggest upset victory in the 2018 midterm election primaries. 

Thanks for using AOC as an example.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/05/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-minneapolis-protests-george-floyd/

“If you are calling for an end to this unrest, and if you are a calling for an end to all of this, but you are not calling for the end of the conditions that created the unrest, you are a hypocrite,” she said in a video on Instagram Saturday morning, posted above. “So if you’re out here calling for the end of unrest, then you better be calling for health care as a human right, you better be calling for accountability in our policing, you better be supporting community review boards, you better be supporting the end of housing discrimination…Because if you don’t call for those things and you’re asking for the end of unrest, all you’re asking for is the continuation of quiet oppression.”

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2 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Funny thing is ... she's not on the street looting and burning.

She's on Instagram calling to work within the system to fix the system. Discourse. 

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Hmm. Mostly peaceful. This domestic terrorism. 

I am all for peaceful assembly. It’s the reason I wore my countries’s uniform for almost 10 years.


 I don’t support acts of criminal behavior and terrorism like trying to burn down a Federal Court House. Yeah, being part of a Federal Agency, I pull for the good guys and gals. The officers and agents in the field. I support our brothers and sisters in blue. 

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20 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Funny thing is ... she's not on the street looting and burning.

She's on Instagram calling to work within the system to fix the system. Discourse. 

She basically is saying that if the unrest bothers you, call for social justice.  If you cant do that, prepare for more unrest.

Looting and burning is obviously not wanted by right thinking people on either side. 

Social justice appears to be only wanted by one side.  The other side seems to want revenge with bullets and water cannons. 

I know which side I am on.  

And I see what side the sewing circle here is on..

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7 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

She basically is saying that if the unrest bothers you, call for social justice.  If you cant do that, prepare for more unrest.

Looting and burning is obviously not wanted by right thinking people on either side. 

Social justice appears to be only wanted by one side.  The other side seems to want revenge with bullets and water cannons. 

I know which side I am on.  

And I see what side the sewing circle here is on..

you're on the side of SOCIAL JUSTICE!! Now go donate money to BLM.

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2 hours ago, Redneksioux said:

You missed "your decisions affect others"

 

The Tulsa rally wasn't limited by any shutdowns. The few thousand in attendance did get a choice to attend. It's already documented that the rally contributed to an outbreak and their poor decision making has affected others.

 

Currently in ND there is no restrictions for churches. There's no statewide mask mandate and there's no city mandate in Grand Forks. Sure you can choose to go to church with no mask, sing and aerosolize your droplets, that's your decision to make. This does not mean it's a good decision.

 

 

Either is damaging federal buildings but it seems to be accepted.  

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1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

She basically is saying that if the unrest bothers you, call for social justice.  If you cant do that, prepare for more unrest.

Looting and burning is obviously not wanted by right thinking people on either side. 

Social justice appears to be only wanted by one side.  The other side seems to want revenge with bullets and water cannons. 

I know which side I am on.  

And I see what side the sewing circle here is on..

Social justice is a subjective term.  If it means flipping the system on its head, adopting socialist positions, and vilifying anyone who has earned and achieved more, I am not for it.

if it means treating people fairly, I’m all for it.

like coaching hockey:  ice time will be fair, it will not be equal.

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20 hours ago, mikejm said:

So you're okay with a Kent State situation? That speaks volumes.

In the words of so many smug sycophants in this thread: you be you.

Obviously you are unable to decern between the two. 

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