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5 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Were you not old enough to vote in 2016? You are saying the exact same things. I’m not saying it’ll work out the same way, but you’re mocking something that literally already happened Four years ago.

She led in polling by about 4%.  She won the popular vote by 2%.   Not a monstrous chance in a very fluid election between two seeking the office for the first time.  

Biden is up against a sitting president known by the electorate.  He's up by about 10% with 100 days to go. Incumbents have never shaken that large of a deficit before.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is unlikely.  

But, there isnt some massive group unrepresented in these polls. 

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1 minute ago, Hayduke1 said:

She led in polling by about 4%.  She won the popular vote by 2%.   Not a monstrous chance in a very fluid election between two seeking the office for the first time.  

Biden is up against a sitting president known by the electorate.  He's up by about 10% with 100 days to go. Incumbents have never shaken that large of a deficit before.  Not saying it couldn't happen, but it is unlikely.  

But, there isnt some massive group unrepresented in these polls. 

I don’t think 2020 is a year to think things won’t happen simply because they haven’t happened before. Five months ago Trump would have won in a landslide. We’ll see where he is at come November, that’s still a long ways off.

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4 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Let’s be clear, I don’t believe that ones sexual orientation or race define them in any way at all. In fact I believe the exact opposite.

What I’m telling you is that the belief system of the far right, DOES judge people on the above categories. In fact they make it pretty clear how they feel about minorities and homosexuals.

What an odd an example to use since Ray Cohn wasn’t openly gay and they really didn’t find out he was gay until after he died. Also, not a minority.

He was Jewish.  That's a minority. 

His sexual orientation was known, but not discussed, especially in those days. 

You need to sharpen up your reading comprehension skills.  Maybe you should take that test Trump "aced"? 

Lol. 

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1 minute ago, Hayduke1 said:

He was Jewish.  That's a minority. 

His sexual orientation was known, but not discussed, especially in those days. 

You need to sharpen up your reading comprehension skills.  Maybe you should take that test Trump "aced"? 

Lol. 

A Jewish lawyer in the 70’s at 80’s on the east coast? Not exactly the same as a openly gay Vietnamese immigrant.

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5 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

A Jewish lawyer in the 70’s at 80’s on the east coast? Not exactly the same as a openly gay Vietnamese immigrant.

I'm saving this just because the stupidity embedded within this statement could just make itself vanish. 

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2 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

I'm saving this just because the stupidity embedded within this statement could just make itself vanish. 

You got your ass kicked a lot when you were younger didn’t you.

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17 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

I see.

Like he did in 2016? 

Lol 

Popular vote means absolutely nothing in an election.  Based on the scoreboard of how the winner is determined, yes he won in a landslide.  

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9 minutes ago, homer said:

Popular vote means absolutely nothing in an election.  Based on the scoreboard of how the winner is determined, yes he won in a landslide.  

I have to save this one also.

Lol

 

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52 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Were you not old enough to vote in 2016? You are saying the exact same things. I’m not saying it’ll work out the same way, but you’re mocking something that literally already happened Four years ago.

Not really.  The idea today is that there is this "silent majority" out there that are Trump supporters but won't tell pollsters about it.  That didn't happen in any relevant fashion in 2016.  It was a very close election, the polls were pretty good, and the undecideds broke towards the challenger at the end.  That's it.  That's the full story.

This year, the polls are not close and Trump's approval ratings are terrible across all sets of information that we have.  

However, I've said it here before and will say it again.  Biden could very well lose.  Trump has a consistent level of support and there is this weird uncertainty out there about COVID and Biden's mental acuity.  What I don't think will tip the scales is the protesting/rioting.  If it were Bernie, then yes, I could see the suburban support melt away.  But Biden is more law & order than the leftist Dems.  His two top VP candidates are a former prosecutor (who the left likes to call Cop-mala) and a National Security Advisor.  Not exactly what "Antifa" would offer up.

 

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39 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

I have to save this one also.

Lol

 

So you can point out I was wrong about results in 2016.  That is history that Democrats can’t erase.  

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10 minutes ago, wxman91 said:

Not really.  The idea today is that there is this "silent majority" out there that are Trump supporters but won't tell pollsters about it.  That didn't happen in any relevant fashion in 2016.  It was a very close election, the polls were pretty good, and the undecideds broke towards the challenger at the end.  That's it.  That's the full story.

This year, the polls are not close and Trump's approval ratings are terrible across all sets of information that we have.  

However, I've said it here before and will say it again.  Biden could very well lose.  Trump has a consistent level of support and there is this weird uncertainty out there about COVID and Biden's mental acuity.  What I don't think will tip the scales is the protesting/rioting.  If it were Bernie, then yes, I could see the suburban support melt away.  But Biden is more law & order than the leftist Dems.  His two top VP candidates are a former prosecutor (who the left likes to call Cop-mala) and a National Security Advisor.  Not exactly what "Antifa" would offer up.

 

If the polls were so accurate why has there been a consistent conversation the last four years as to how they got it so wrong and how to improve polling?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/ 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/14/can-we-still-trust-polls/

I'm genuinely curious as you seem to be very knowledgeable on polls.

 

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8 minutes ago, homer said:

So you can point out I was wrong about results in 2016.  That is history that Democrats can’t erase.  

Face it dude. 

 

I won this argument in a landslide.

 

Lol

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2 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Face it dude. 

 

I won this argument in a landslide.

 

Lol

Maybe your argument will change the results of 2016.  

Cant wait until the debates.  Seniors now looking at lowest prescription drug prices in years.  

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9 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:

"If you're questioning who to vote for, me or Donald Trump, then you ain't black"

- Joe Biden

He apologized almost immediately.  He will get 95% + of the Black vote.

Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently.  Black know he is a racist POS. 

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4 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

He apologized almost immediately.  He will get 95% + of the Black vote.

Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently.  Black know he is a racist POS. 

So there should be a lot of evidence backing up that claim then, right? I'll wait for you to find it.

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12 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

He apologized almost immediately.  He will get 95% + of the Black vote.

Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently.  Black know he is a racist POS. 

Obama didn't even get 95%

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2 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

So basically, the virus is going to run it's course regardless of the measures we take. Thanks, that's what many have been saying since the beginning of this.

Protect the immunocompromised and elderly and let's get back to life so we can develop immunity.

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Sister in law who is a trumplican and constantly bitching about MN governor overstepping has all the symptoms and is going in for a test - karma baby. 

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45 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

He apologized almost immediately.  He will get 95% + of the Black vote.

Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently.  Black know he is a racist POS. 

doesn't malik obama say the same thing about barak

lol

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