JohnboyND7 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said: If he is the greatest QB coach in the nation, I'm quitting my job and going to coaching QBs I could easily make the top 100 list if he is #1! Idk if he is the best or not, but his qb's have done rather well. If you can do better, I suppose you owe it to yourself to do it! Quote
FlinFlan80 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: Idk if he is the best or not, but his qb's have done rather well. If you can do better, I suppose you owe it to yourself to do it! His QBs have without a doubt been the best in the FCS. There is no argument about that. I think we often forget there are 130 FBS out there that have some legit coaches. I know I know "BuT tHe BiZoN bEaT fBs TeAmS", I still believe if he was that great of a QB whisperer he would be in the FBS or the NFL. Quote
Kab Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Do you think at hedbergs age he is,looking to start changing jobs must in mid 60s Quote
tjamz Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 On 12/26/2019 at 10:21 AM, gundy1124 said: Except when the Jacks beat you guys a few years back......then opposing fans get punched and thrown out of the bar at BWW. I know it was just a few dip smacks and alcohol on both sides, but seriously, it could not be easier to be gracious when you hardly ever lose a game. A few years back (2013 I want to say..) I was down in Brookings for a game and stopped by Cubbies for a drink with my friends. There was a group of former SDSU players literally spitting on the backs of people with NDSU apparel on as we walked through the door. There's idiots in every fan base. Fortunately that night didn't end up with any fists flying, but they were ABSOLUTELY trying to bring that on. Quote
Bison06 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, FlinFlan80 said: His QBs have without a doubt been the best in the FCS. There is no argument about that. I think we often forget there are 130 FBS out there that have some legit coaches. I know I know "BuT tHe BiZoN bEaT fBs TeAmS", I still believe if he was that great of a QB whisperer he would be in the FBS or the NFL. I have no idea where Hedberg or any other NDSU coach falls in the grand scheme of things, but if getting coaching jobs was strictly merit based in the NFL, there would be a very different crop of coaches. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 5 hours ago, FlinFlan80 said: His QBs have without a doubt been the best in the FCS. There is no argument about that. I think we often forget there are 130 FBS out there that have some legit coaches. I know I know "BuT tHe BiZoN bEaT fBs TeAmS", I still believe if he was that great of a QB whisperer he would be in the FBS or the NFL. I dont know if he has any interest in that anymore. He's an older guy. Context matters. If someone says "ndsu is the best team in the country", we know they mean at the FCS level. If someone refers to a FCS coach as "the best in the country," I'd assume they also mean at the FCS level. Quote
iramurphy Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 6 hours ago, FlinFlan80 said: His QBs have without a doubt been the best in the FCS. There is no argument about that. I think we often forget there are 130 FBS out there that have some legit coaches. I know I know "BuT tHe BiZoN bEaT fBs TeAmS", I still believe if he was that great of a QB whisperer he would be in the FBS or the NFL. QB coach for Brock Jensen, Carson Wentz, Easton Stick and Lance has done an impressive job. These guys have all developed into All-American level QB’s. It doesn’t just happen. 2of 4 are in the NFL and Lance will certainly have an opportunity. Hedberg has developed these guys at the FCS level which is probably tougher than doing the same at FCS. 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 I read that NDSU started the same five offensive linemen all 16 games. What the hell is our problem? Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, iramurphy said: QB coach for Brock Jensen, Carson Wentz, Easton Stick and Lance has done an impressive job. These guys have all developed into All-American level QB’s. It doesn’t just happen. 2of 4 are in the NFL and Lance will certainly have an opportunity. Hedberg has developed these guys at the FCS level which is probably tougher than doing the same at FCS. I dont think he was there for Jensen, not that it matters. 1 Quote
Hawkster Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 8 hours ago, CMSioux said: Headshaker how SIL moves up in final poll under the guise that MVFC is si tough yet Big Sky has two in semi finals and five in top 10 but UND playing a BS schedule and beating Montana drops out, yes we lost first round, to eventual #11. What did SIL do to justify moving up? Yah there is no bias among those guys. We didn't play Montana, we beat Montana STATE. Quote
CMSioux Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Hawkster said: We didn't play Montana, we beat Montana STATE. Corrected that, any thought on the point I made? Quote
bang Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: Corrected that, any thought on the point I made? Who cares. The only number that matters come the end of the year is who’s first. “If you ain’t first you’re last” 1 Quote
CMSioux Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 Like em or not their purpose is to keep fans engaged and generate conversations through out a season. Quote
FlinFlan80 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 When you put something out there like best "QB Coach in the Country" it is pretty black and white. If he isn't the top guy I would want on my staff to coach lead the QBs, he is not, in my opinion, the best in the country. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, CMSioux said: Then why have polls at all? To make some feel better about their ineptness..... 2 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 11 hours ago, UND1983 said: I read that NDSU started the same five offensive linemen all 16 games. What the hell is our problem? If that's true that is both remarkable from an endurance point of view and a testament to the on-field performance of those five because they went 16-0. PS - What have I been harping about UND for years? Fix the offensive line first. Quote
iramurphy Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 17 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: I dont think he was there for Jensen, not that it matters. Must be why Jenson isn’t in the NFL. Regardless, I doubt there are college QB coaches with a better resume. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, iramurphy said: Must be why Jenson isn’t in the NFL. Regardless, I doubt there are college QB coaches with a better resume. Hedberg went to NDSU in 2014. His primary QBs were Wentz (junior) and Stick (freshman). But I still say Hedberg should be buying the OL coaches a lot of meals; they make his QBs look good because they're protected so well. 1 Quote
Hawkster Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 11 hours ago, CMSioux said: Corrected that, any thought on the point I made? When I made the original comment it really didn't bother me that we were left out, but now am wondering why we were? We obviously were one of the top 24 to make the playoffs, so we should have been ranked in the top 24 really. The only thing that it would maybe help us to still be ranked would be getting some love in the preseason poll next August. Seems the voters always look at the previous season. Looks like we have to work at it next year and get some respect. Quote
CMSioux Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 What happened was SLI got the love for being MVFC despite playing an easier schedule than us. And every reason given just does not hold up and they certainly have not "earned it" from previous years. Just politics and bias. Quote
iramurphy Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Hedberg went to NDSU in 2014. His primary QBs were Wentz (junior) and Stick (freshman). But I still say Hedberg should be buying the OL coaches a lot of meals; they make his QBs look good because they're protected so well. I agree. But somehow the QB’s develop under Hedberg. Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 We also get a pretty solid O-line to protect the QB. The Rams are a big part of it too. Although Lance seems to be a kid that scrambled in the JMU game. Quote
shep Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 Joe Brady, who coached Burrow at LSU this year is now headed to the Panthers. He and Stoops may argue about who the best QB coach in the country is. Quote
Ozzie82 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 7:23 AM, shep said: Joe Brady, who coached Burrow at LSU this year is now headed to the Panthers. He and Stoops may argue about who the best QB coach in the country is. I assume you mean Lincoln Riley? Plus add Ryan Day to that list. 1 Quote
GeauxSioux Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 I attended a men’s breakfast at my church this morning wearing a UND sweatshirt. One of the men asked if that was the school that kept winning the championship. I told him no, it was the other North Dakota school and we talked a bit more about football. He asked if that was the D3 or NAIA championship, since he knew UWF won the D2 championship. He was shocked to find out that it was actually Division I. Funny. Quote
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