siouxfb Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I’ll assume all Vikings fans will be on here calling for Zimmer to get fired. As a Packers fan I agree he should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 We can fuss all we want about coaching decisions. There isn’t going to be a coaching change. Those of you who want a change don’t seem willing to write a 6 figure check, which wouldn’t cover the entire cost of a change. I believe Chaves is more focused on increasing resources available for coaching salaries, resources and facilities. With that in mind, it seems to me discussing staff change is a moot point. Doesn’t really matter what I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, shep said: Was Evan Holm out there yesterday? I really can't remember. Siegel and Nelson were #13's victims. If Evan Holm didn't play, there's the reason for the bad secondary play. Weber St and Montana State were his victims. The secondary devolved to the Idaho State game again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, iramurphy said: We can fuss all we want about coaching decisions. There isn’t going to be a coaching change. Those of you who want a change don’t seem willing to write a 6 figure check, which wouldn’t cover the entire cost of a change. I believe Chaves is more focused on increasing resources available for coaching salaries, resources and facilities. With that in mind, it seems to me discussing staff change is a moot point. Doesn’t really matter what I think. So how many years of mediocrity in the MVC and getting blasted by NDSU does Bubba get? If those are things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Sioux95 said: So you're saying that because he would only be available for 1 playoff game at most, it made sense to play him yesterday in what was expected to be an easy win, instead of saving him for the playoff game. Brilliant. Bubba is not known for his astute game management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Irish said: Bubba is not known for his astute game management. Let’s just keep saving all of our best players for next year. Makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Posted November 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, homer said: Let’s just keep saving all of our best players for next year. Makes sense. Of course you know that no one is saying that at all. If we need to play someone to make this season a success, by all means let's do that. But to burn a game just to have him come in for one play and hand the ball off makes absolutely no sense. If we needed his skills this game in order to win, then great - let's play him. But one hand-off?? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, iramurphy said: We can fuss all we want about coaching decisions. There isn’t going to be a coaching change. Those of you who want a change don’t seem willing to write a 6 figure check, which wouldn’t cover the entire cost of a change. I believe Chaves is more focused on increasing resources available for coaching salaries, resources and facilities. With that in mind, it seems to me discussing staff change is a moot point. Doesn’t really matter what I think. It's what they do year in and year out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: So how many years of mediocrity in the MVC and getting blasted by NDSU does Bubba get? If those are things happen. That is a good question but I don’t believe my opinion will change anything. Having said that it will depend on what happens between now and when Bubba’s contract expires. In the meantime, we need the resources for better facilities, salaries etc. If we as fans and supporters aren’t going to do get HPCII built we are at a disadvantage when we recruit against a number of other schools. If we don’t increase funding for salaries, we get a different pool of applicants. (Rudolph). Making the playoffs this year isn’t a dealbreaker for me. Getting better and building on that so we can attain and ultimately sustain that success takes a lot more time than I would like. I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion or others. If I am going to give a lot more money it will be with those goals in mind not to buy out a coaches contract. Therefore I feel obligated to support what they are trying to do in the meantime. I also think Bubba is allowing his coordinators to call their plays and make decisions. That is how it should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Bubba was into the game ive never seen him so upset at someone on the sidelines He was in the face of a player in street clothes, I believe it was after kett list his helmet and was hit in the head dont know what it was about but he was in the face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 hours ago, homer said: Let’s just keep saving all of our best players for next year. Makes sense. I have never understood "saving red-shirts". You put the 11 best players you have healthy on the field for every game, unless the chance for post season is over. Nothing else makes any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Cooper Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Kab said: Bubba was into the game ive never seen him so upset at someone on the sidelines He was in the face of a player in street clothes, I believe it was after kett list his helmet and was hit in the head dont know what it was about but he was in the face I saw that too. Couldn't tell who it was but he(the player) came jogging over from one of the entrances... my best speculation guess is he was supposed to stick around the bench area watching the game and he wasn't. I don't know, probably doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Southern Utah beat Idaho State by 25. Just a reminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 17 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: If Evan Holm didn't play, there's the reason for the bad secondary play. Weber St and Montana State were his victims. The secondary devolved to the Idaho State game again. Was Evan Holm held out to preserve a red shirt, or was it injury related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Well, I missed the game on Saturday, as I was out trying to get some Christmas shopping done, and I'm kind of glad I saved myself the frustration ( I was frustrated enough following the score on my phone). I am glad we won, and glad we are still in the playoff picture, but the way this team is playing makes it tough to get excited. How do they play a game like they did again Weber, on the road, then come home and have a shootout with Northern Flippin Colorado? That is not the kind of showing you expect from a team that is going to make, or make any noise in, the playoffs. That is not the kind of showing you expect from a team trying to take that next step. I would expect nothing less than a blowout from NDSU, JMU, SDSU, Weber, or even UNI. Again, thrilled we won and that playoffs are still on the table, but the way this team plays, the lack of killer instinct, the inability for Offense and Defense to both have a solid game at the same time . . . . if we continue what we are doing, we will continue being mediocre. We will show flashes, and potential, and close losses to good teams; but I would rather see a team that makes the playoffs every year and actually makes some noise once they are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 16 hours ago, homer said: Let’s just keep saving all of our best players for next year. Makes sense. The player has input. It about the only thing they have a say in. The coaches are not "saving" anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I honestly think if Holm played we'd have won by 21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: I honestly think if Holm played we'd have won by 21. Yes. It was obvious that we were missing a key component of our defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Ozzie82 said: The player has input. It about the only thing they have a say in. The coaches are not "saving" anyone. Coaches are interested in winning NOW. So many variables. Half the frosh will never even suit up as juniors let alone seniors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Coaches are interested in winning NOW. So many variables. Half the frosh will never even suit up as juniors let alone seniors. This is my point. People are upset about a player coming back from injury, making an impact but potentially playing 5 games (or more) or a QB taking one snap to get to 2 games played this season when he reality is we need our best players on the field. If we make the playoff and if we make a run and if Kett gets injured and Schluster gets to play more than two games, than taking one snap vs UNC might suck. But at that point we are in the quarters or semis of the playoffs and I don’t really care. It’s a long shot but another thing for people to complain about. Regarding the RB, the kid just has to play. He is good but how do you bench McKinney after how he was playing Saturday. I guess I have no problem with either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 10:05 PM, SiouxFan100 said: I say you need auto qualifiers - winning a conference should mean something the goal never has been to get the best 24 there is enough room in the existing format for most good teams to get in - not getting in isn’t a format problem - prove you belong over the season and don’t do like we do and get whipped by a two win teams Yep. Need autobids. You win your conference, congrats and welcome. FCS playoffs are huge and any team with a prayer at the championship makes it. There is never a team sitting at home with a legit gripe about not making it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnboyND7 said: Yep. Need autobids. You win your conference, congrats and welcome. FCS playoffs are huge and any team with a prayer at the championship makes it. There is never a team sitting at home with a legit gripe about not making it. 2015 UND would beg to differ. To this date that’s the best team UND has put on the field in D1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: 2015 UND would beg to differ. To this date that’s the best team UND has put on the field in D1 They didn't have a prayer at winning a championship so....kinda a sit down and shut up situation there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: They didn't have a prayer at winning a championship so....kinda a sit down and shut up situation there. That’s a really stupid argument. Also, that team was white hot and ready to make a run. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bison06 Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: They didn't have a prayer at winning a championship so....kinda a sit down and shut up situation there. I hear this a lot as it pertains to playoffs, if you don't have a legitimate chance at the championship we don't want you in the playoffs. FBS arguments against expansion come to mind. I don't believe that determining a champion is the only function a playoff system has. I think it also exists for other reasons which include: Rewarding student athletes/schools with additional games and revenue for a season worthy of such. Seeing inter-conference play to determine with large data sets which conferences and teams are the best. To use FBS examples, as a fan, I would love to see how a third place Big10 team(making the tourney as a 16 seed for example) matches up with a potentially over ranked ACC team(that garnered the #1 seed). That helps me as years go by determine which conferences are truly the best. Seeing certain FCS conferences' champions go undefeated in the regular season and then get destroyed in the playoffs has helped us pump the breaks on how good an 11-0 University of San Diego team might be entering the FCS playoffs. And finally, the "any given saturday" effect. The reason the March Madness tourney is so captivating is the opportunity to see David slay Goliath. As sports fans we love this. I like the playoffs, not just to determine the champion, but for the excitement along the way. Just because a team has "no chance" to win it all, doesn't mean they should be excluded. Because, when you step on that field, anything can happen in a single game. And that's why you have to play the game. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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