Nodak78 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, TBR said: In the first quarter we had what...seven or eight penalties in a span of just a few minutes of game time. I thought never have I seen a team so unprepared and uninspired to play football. Nothing over the next couple hours changed my mind. In every sports when players lose focus and penalties start to add up. Coaching need to call time out and establish focus again. An opportunity was missed to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: In every sports when players lose focus and penalties start to add up. Coaching need to call time out and establish focus again. An opportunity was missed to do that. UND didn't have enough timeouts for that from what I witnessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkers Pros Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Seriously you’d think that the world was ending or something. Everyone take your meds and it’ll be alright. It was a bad day. Bad day. Perhaps our expectations vs investment are not realistic. We don’t have the credibility of NDSU, the facility’s of SDSU, we are located in one of the flattest desolate football locations in the country in a town where the only thing people really care about is Hockey. Not an easy sell. I don’t disagree that there is blame, but if you have ever coached, you can prepare, motivate, push all you want, the bottom line is these are young men and they need to execute. The coaches are not the ones out there. Players make plays. I don’t know that we got out coached, cause none of us know the game plan. But we got outplayed and led, on the field. That is on the captains and players. It was ISU’s homecoming coming off an embarrassing loss and they have confidence playing us. I am surprised everyone on here is shocked they went off on us. The season is not lost yet. Let’s see how they respond first. They responded well after the last loss. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND1983 Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said: Seriously you’d think that the world was ending or something. Everyone take your meds and it’ll be alright. It was a bad day. Bad day. Perhaps our expectations vs investment are not realistic. We don’t have the credibility of NDSU, the facility’s of SDSU, we are located in one of the flattest desolate football locations in the country in a town where the only thing people really care about is Hockey. Not an easy sell. I don’t disagree that there is blame, but if you have ever coached, you can prepare, motivate, push all you want, the bottom line is these are young men and they need to execute. The coaches are not the ones out there. Players make plays. I don’t know that we got out coached, cause none of us know the game plan. But we got outplayed and led, on the field. That is on the captains and players. It was ISU’s homecoming coming off an embarrassing loss and they have confidence playing us. I am surprised everyone on here is shocked they went off on us. The season is not lost yet. Let’s see how they respond first. They responded well after the last loss. It's been 6 years of throwing away chance after chance to build momentum with not only the program, but the fanbase. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Feff Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 Giving up 55 and only scoring 20, yup, definitely didn't get outcoached. Coaches obviously had the perfect gameplan. Every aspect of that game yesterday was embarrassing. I have no faith in this staff, there is no fire, the team gets hit in the mouth and they give up. That's a direct reflection of the head coach. Bubba is a nice guy, I like the guy, but all that said, he's not getting it done and this needs to be his last season. Get new blood and the potential for improvement. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said: Seriously you’d think that the world was ending or something. Everyone take your meds and it’ll be alright. It was a bad day. Bad day. Perhaps our expectations vs investment are not realistic. We don’t have the credibility of NDSU, the facility’s of SDSU, we are located in one of the flattest desolate football locations in the country in a town where the only thing people really care about is Hockey. Not an easy sell. I don’t disagree that there is blame, but if you have ever coached, you can prepare, motivate, push all you want, the bottom line is these are young men and they need to execute. The coaches are not the ones out there. Players make plays. I don’t know that we got out coached, cause none of us know the game plan. But we got outplayed and led, on the field. That is on the captains and players. It was ISU’s homecoming coming off an embarrassing loss and they have confidence playing us. I am surprised everyone on here is shocked they went off on us. The season is not lost yet. Let’s see how they respond first. They responded well after the last loss. In addition to what others already responded, I don’t think the claim of UND being a tough sell to recruits holds water when you compare to ISU. Their football stadium is a twin brother of the valley city winter show building. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zonadub Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 Iirc, back in the fire Rudy days, someone, I think it was Irish, has been asking why Schmitty gets a pass. When ISU puts 55 on you, it is time for that question to be answered. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 If a player thinks UND is a tough place to go to do you really want that player its all about the quality of the program, if it’s good they will come here, just like hockey, aviation our quality sucks right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said: Seriously you’d think that the world was ending or something. Everyone take your meds and it’ll be alright. It was a bad day. Bad day. Perhaps our expectations vs investment are not realistic. We don’t have the credibility of NDSU, the facility’s of SDSU, we are located in one of the flattest desolate football locations in the country in a town where the only thing people really care about is Hockey. Not an easy sell. I don’t disagree that there is blame, but if you have ever coached, you can prepare, motivate, push all you want, the bottom line is these are young men and they need to execute. The coaches are not the ones out there. Players make plays. I don’t know that we got out coached, cause none of us know the game plan. But we got outplayed and led, on the field. That is on the captains and players. It was ISU’s homecoming coming off an embarrassing loss and they have confidence playing us. I am surprised everyone on here is shocked they went off on us. The season is not lost yet. Let’s see how they respond first. They responded well after the last loss. It is on the coaches to change the mediocrity culture by instilling it in the players here, and by recruiting players with the right attitude. NDSU has a culture that they aren’t going to lose any game. UND wins a big game at home and becomes satisfied. They need to recruit players and leaders that are going to help self police the team against those letdowns. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Feff said: Giving up 55 and only scoring 20, yup, definitely didn't get outcoached. Coaches obviously had the perfect gameplan. Every aspect of that game yesterday was embarrassing. I have no faith in this staff, there is no fire, the team gets hit in the mouth and they give up. That's a direct reflection of the head coach. Bubba is a nice guy, I like the guy, but all that said, he's not getting it done and this needs to be his last season. Get new blood and the potential for improvement. But in Bubba’s big locker room speech in the day by day series, “There is nothing out there that they can’t handle”. Maybe they think he said “can” handle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, zonadub said: Iirc, back in the fire Rudy days, someone, I think it was Irish, has been asking why Schmitty gets a pass. When ISU puts 55 on you, it is time for that question to be answered. I've always been a Schmidt guy, buy you are absolutely right. Giving up 55 and making their QB look like a Heisman candidate can't happen. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The QB should be one of your more respected players...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said: The season is not lost yet. Let’s see how they respond first. They responded well after the last loss. This is just another one of the patterns we see that concerns most fans. There has been plenty of time to learn from mistakes and overly conservative tactics, but they always seem to rear their ugly heads again, and many times the following week. I agree, there is still time to make a run, but does anyone have faith that it will amount to anything with the current mindset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Wilbur said: I've always been a Schmidt guy, buy you are absolutely right. Giving up 55 and making their QB look like a Heisman candidate can't happen. If we can’t consistently recruit the personnel to effectively run the 3-4 defense, that strategy needs to be examined. Our first string dline looks outmatched, it’s even worse when the 2nd string is in. Frustrating all around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 We need to recruit big old fashion farm boys again, seems to work down south why we had players lose weight seems to be biting us in the gut i hope some of our recruits are saying when I get there these things won’t happen instead of saying why am I going there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: The QB should be one of your more respected players...... Was it Patrick Rooney that scored the touchdown against Davis? When everyone else was all over him congratulating him, Ketteringham walked away seemingly like he could have got the TD by jumping on it. Maybe I am reading too much into it, and maybe he congratulated him later, but it seemed odd to me that a quarterback wasn’t the first one all over an offensive lineman after they scored. If anybody watches that clip again let me know what you see, and maybe I am wrong or missing part of the equation. https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/4712147-VIDEO-Senior-Patric-Rooney-becomes-first-offensive-lineman-to-score-touchdown-in-UNDs-Division-I-era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 10 hours ago, bang said: I think you may be right. I also think recruiting kids with frames that can grow into physical specimens like Lance is part of it as well. I’m perplexed with this one. Not sure if any of us not involved with the program can say with certainty Baukol is a problem. I can say he’s had some success along with some average results. It’s a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, tnt said: Was it Patrick Rooney that scored the touchdown against Davis? When everyone else was all over him congratulating him, Ketteringham walked away seemingly like he could have got the TD by jumping on it. Maybe I am reading too much into it, and maybe he congratulated him later, but it seemed odd to me that a quarterback wasn’t the first one all over an offensive lineman after they scored. If anybody watches that clip again let me know what you see, and maybe I am wrong or missing part of the equation. I think Ket actually threw a block on that play instead of try to dive on it himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, homer said: If we can’t consistently recruit the personnel to effectively run the 3-4 defense, that strategy needs to be examined. Our first string dline looks outmatched, it’s even worse when the 2nd string is in. Frustrating all around. LB rarely are unblocked and that’s because double teams are not need on DL. A huge problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 35 minutes ago, UND1983 said: The QB should be one of your more respected players...... It seems to be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SWSiouxMN Posted October 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 I will fully admit to be an individual that thinks of the glass half full, perhaps to the point where it borders on ducky and bunny territory on this board. However, my glass runneth empty. How many times has UND had an opportunity, to actually build some momentum in this program over the last 6 years, only to blow it in painful fashion. The Montana game in Year 1, the ISU and Weber games in Year 2, Richmond in Year 3, USD in Year 4, ISU, Idaho, and NAU in year 5, and now ISU in Year 6. Once again, it was right in front of them. All they needed to do was win these two games on the road, and take care of business at home. That's it. Good teams do that consistently. We will always look back to the Richmond playoff game as the height of the Bubba Era.... isn't that sad? A game they should have won by 30, where Brady was running wild. It was right there... and ever since then it has been downhill from there since the double reverse call. I don't want to hear about the weather. Put any good team in that same situation, they overcome. Good teams stick the knife when a team is down, not "kneel the ball because they don't want to go crazy". If this was an one-off, I wouldn't be as upset... but it is not. Winning out is the only thing that can save Bubba. I'd rather take my lumps next year with a new staff. One playoff game in 6 years. Should have been 3 years of playoffs and at least one playoff win by now. Will I keep watching? Yes. Do I want change? Yes. Something needs to change, this program needs to step up and step up now. One win against ISU under Bubba... Hell Muss went 2-0 against them! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said: Lowell has no pull. Interesting. Please cite source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: In addition to what others already responded, I don’t think the claim of UND being a tough sell to recruits holds water when you compare to ISU. Their football stadium is a twin brother of the valley city winter show building. I think you are correct but if a player is considering more than facilities, like weather and location, why would UND be preferred over the jackholes to the south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, homer said: I think Ket actually threw a block on that play instead of try to dive on it himself. https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/4712147-VIDEO-Senior-Patric-Rooney-becomes-first-offensive-lineman-to-score-touchdown-in-UNDs-Division-I-era Looks to me like Ket is going for the ball, but to judge his mindset is probably unfair. I do still find it odd he didn’t celebrate with his lineman’s rare opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 55 minutes ago, Kab said: We need to recruit big old fashion farm boys again, seems to work down south why we had players lose weight seems to be biting us in the gut i hope some of our recruits are saying when I get there these things won’t happen instead of saying why am I going there Do these farm boys still exist? I doubt many people are throwing idiot cubes or picking rock by hand. Now work ethic you may be on to something but as far as big and tough, not sure your theory holds up any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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