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55 minutes ago, Kab said:

We need to recruit big old fashion farm boys again, seems to work down south

why we had players lose weight seems to be biting us in the gut

i hope some of our recruits are saying when I get there these things won’t happen instead of saying why am I going there

 

Do these farm boys still exist?  I doubt many people are throwing idiot cubes or picking rock by hand.  Now work ethic you may be on to something but as far as big and tough, not sure your theory holds up any more.

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3 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Literally, exactly what will happen.  And as long as Lowell is around it wouldn't surprise me if 5-6 got him another season.  

Not sure that is called for. Lowell doesn’t make the decisions. I’m sure he wants what’s best for the program. It’s natural for him, just like a lot of others, to believe these guys can be successful. 

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I am not here to rub salt in any wounds so lets not go there.   I am really not sure how UND gets the train back on the rails or even where to start.  Its tough enough recruiting football talent with NDSU an hour away.  UND seems to recruit decent players, but they dont seem to improve/develop them.  I am not sure how many people here understand the value Jim Kramer brings to the NDSU program.  He is a huge part of their success and UND would do well to find out whats going on with their S&C program.  Bubba is a likable guy, but I think its time for a change.  I think you guys need a new HC, DC and OC.   Wipe the slate clean and rebuild from scratch.  I am not sure financially if that is doable or what funds are available.  I think its going to take a big change to restart the football program.   With the new MVFC schedule maybe the shorter travel will free up a few bucks.  Someone mentioned dropping football.  This may not be as crazy as some think, although I am sure it would burn for a while.  If UND were able to redirect all of the football funds to the hockey program I think it would put UND in the very best possible position to absolutely dominate in hockey.  Overall, that may be best for the university in the long run. 

In either case, I hope something positive happens to get things going in the right direction again.

Flame on....

 

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2 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

I am not here to rub salt in any wounds so lets not go there.   I am really not sure how UND gets the train back on the rails or even where to start.  Its tough enough recruiting football talent with NDSU an hour away.  UND seems to recruit decent players, but they dont seem to improve/develop them.  I am not sure how many people here understand the value Jim Kramer brings to the NDSU program.  He is a huge part of their success and UND would do well to find out whats going on with their S&C program.  Bubba is a likable guy, but I think its time for a change.  I think you guys need a new HC, DC and OC.   Wipe the slate clean and rebuild from scratch.  I am not sure financially if that is doable or what funds are available.  I think its going to take a big change to restart the football program.   With the new MVFC schedule maybe the shorter travel will free up a few bucks.  Someone mentioned dropping football.  This may not be as crazy as some think, although I am sure it would burn for a while.  If UND were able to redirect all of the football funds to the hockey program I think it would put UND in the very best possible position to absolutely dominate in hockey.  Overall, that may be best for the university in the long run. 

In either case, I hope something positive happens to get things going in the right direction again.

Flame on....

 

I don’t think more funds for hockey would make much of a change in competitive balance with how many great hockey players are available for recruitment now.  You just have to be able to project players better into the future, and more money isn’t going to change that.  All the big programs with money aren’t dominating anymore. Put the money into football and find someone to steer the ship.

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28 minutes ago, Old Fella said:

Interesting. Please cite source.

I don’t think there is any reason to bring him in to this. He is an alumnus and booster with no more or less influence than other boosters. That is how it should be. 

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9 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I don’t think there is any reason to bring him in to this. He is an alumnus and booster with no more or less influence than other boosters. That is how it should be. 

My bad/thought he was president of the boosters and as he has the same last name as Buuba thought they might be related,

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Just now, Meat man 01 said:

How about all new couches UND will never be a winning team with what we have 

News couches will fix it. 

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1 minute ago, Old Fella said:

My bad/thought he was president of the boosters and as he has the same last name as Buuba thought they might be related,

He is/was and they are related. Its natural he will support this staff. It won’t make a difference as far as the decision to make a change.  

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Just now, iramurphy said:

He is/was and they are related. Its natural he will support this staff. It won’t make a difference as far as the decision to make a change.  

OH

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Not advocating dropping football, but it does make me go hmmm when one considers that "mid level" universities have better success by focusing on a single sport.  Discuss

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Not to encourage Slowbrain, but focus on S&C seems like one distinct avenue of improvement that needs to be addressed.

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Just now, 90siouxfan said:

Not advocating dropping football, but it does make me go hmmm when one considers that "mid level" universities have better success by focusing on a single sport.  Discuss

Not sure what you are getting at here.  No reason whatsoever UND can't have a dynamic sports program across the board.  Just needs to be funded and a priority starting at the top.  If UND want to be well-known in ND, MN , and MA focus on only hockey.  Outside of those states, hockey is a back burner sport at best.

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3 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said:

Not advocating dropping football, but it does make me go hmmm when one considers that "mid level" universities have better success by focusing on a single sport.  Discuss

No

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4 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said:

Not to encourage Slowbrain, but focus on S&C seems like one distinct avenue of improvement that needs to be addressed.

And the way UND seems to move on Football related issues (Rudy for example) in 5-10 years we'll get right on it.  

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8 minutes ago, johnsowe said:

I think we have a bigger problem than Bubba

Expound please

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Glaring Issues that I see:

1. Strength and conditioning.

2. Recruiting. 

3. Specialists.

4. Offensive line.

5. Penalties/discipline.  

The list gets longer. But that's what concerns me the most. 

 

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3 hours ago, Parkers Pros said:

Seriously you’d think that the world was ending or something. Everyone take your meds and it’ll be alright.   It was a bad day.  Bad day.  Perhaps our expectations vs investment are not realistic.   We don’t have the credibility of NDSU, the facility’s of SDSU, we are located in one of the flattest desolate football locations in the country in a town where the only thing people really care about is Hockey. Not an easy sell.  I don’t disagree that there is blame, but if you have ever coached, you can prepare, motivate, push all you want, the bottom line is these are young men and they need to execute. The coaches are not the ones out there.  Players make plays. I don’t know that we got out coached, cause none of us know the game plan. But we got outplayed and led, on the field. That is on the captains and players. 

It was ISU’s homecoming coming off an embarrassing loss and they have confidence playing us. I am surprised everyone on here is shocked they went off on us. 

The season is not lost yet. Let’s see how they respond first.  They responded well after the last loss.

You, my friend, are what is wrong with UND right now. We'll NEVER do this, we'll NEVER do that. This isn't "realistic", that isn't "realistic". Blah, blah, blah. Have you ever heard of the term "self-fulfilling prophecy". Because that is what is happening in Grand Forks right now. You start accepting mediocrity and adopt low standards, then you get mediocrity and low standards. That perpetuates mediocrity, which starts the whole vicious cycle all over again. This monster feeds onto itself. And the only way to kill this monster and restore the tradition of excellence we used to have around here is to hire a strong UND President who acknowledges that academics, athletics and research can and must coexist for the entire campus to move upward and forward. Not downward and backward.

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1 hour ago, SlowHand said:

I am not here to rub salt in any wounds so lets not go there.   I am really not sure how UND gets the train back on the rails or even where to start.  Its tough enough recruiting football talent with NDSU an hour away.  UND seems to recruit decent players, but they dont seem to improve/develop them.  I am not sure how many people here understand the value Jim Kramer brings to the NDSU program.  He is a huge part of their success and UND would do well to find out whats going on with their S&C program.  Bubba is a likable guy, but I think its time for a change.  I think you guys need a new HC, DC and OC.   Wipe the slate clean and rebuild from scratch.  I am not sure financially if that is doable or what funds are available.  I think its going to take a big change to restart the football program.   With the new MVFC schedule maybe the shorter travel will free up a few bucks.  Someone mentioned dropping football.  This may not be as crazy as some think, although I am sure it would burn for a while.  If UND were able to redirect all of the football funds to the hockey program I think it would put UND in the very best possible position to absolutely dominate in hockey.  Overall, that may be best for the university in the long run. 

In either case, I hope something positive happens to get things going in the right direction again.

Flame on....

So we should just drop FB, continue ignoring MBB and WBB and focus entirely on hockey? Sorry, that is not the answer. It would be better to go back to Division II. Either we do the Division I experiment right or we drop it. No in-between.

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22 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Glaring Issues that I see:

1. Strength and conditioning.

2. Recruiting. 

3. Specialists.

4. Offensive line.

5. Penalties/discipline.  

The list gets longer. But that's what concerns me the most. 

 

non-coaching issues:

Community support and sponsorship


Attendance, public student family

Ambiance in the Alerus 

Media... or lack of it

Phase 2 facility

Promotion of our student athletes 

IMHO

 

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2 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

non-coaching issues:

Community support and sponsorship


Attendance, public student family

Ambiance in the Alerus 

Media... or lack of it

Phase 2 facility

Promotion of our student athletes 

IMHO

 

Red Pepper at the Alerus would solve a lot of this FB program's ills.

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