UND- NDSU GDT 9/7/2019

[Shawn-O]

NDSU has tradition, facilities, and a commitment to football excellence that is untouched in FCS.  We have Cousin Eddie from National Lampoon's Family Vacation making in-home recruiting visits.  Changes are needed.   

[Bison06]

14 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

Without much researching, Oklahoma for one. Also looks like N.C.  State, Washington St, Penn St, Ohio St, and Western Kentucky have had at least two Qb’s drafted in the last 3-4 years.  Didn’t dig enough to see if they were consecutive though.

Those on here who think NDSU couldn’t play FBS have their head in the sand.  Would they compete with P5 schools, no. But could they be a top G5 school, absolutely.  They have a few big obstacles to overcome however and the two biggest are location and stadium.  The only way they go fbs is if they can get get some of the other regional fcs teams to move up. NDSU runs their program like an fbs program.  

So then after looking into and finding maybe five schools out of 130 that have had their last two QBs drafted, is it fair to say NDSU has had better QBs than nearly all of the FBS schools in the nation the last six years? My comment is mostly to the previous poster, since it seems like you are somewhat agreeing with my statement.

[dmksioux]

4 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

So then after looking into and finding maybe five schools out of 130 that have had their last two QBs drafted, is it fair to say NDSU has had better QBs than nearly all of the FBS schools in the nation the last six years? My comment is mostly to the previous poster, since it seems like you are somewhat agreeing with my statement.

So has Western Kentucky, so what? I know WKU is FBS, but they are far from a football powerhouse, yet they attract some good  QB’s apparently.

Not sure why you need to seek validation on your rival’s message board.  This is why so many get fed up with the Bison fan base.  You’ve got a good thing going, be humble.  You won’t be on top forever.

[homer]

14 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Positives: CJ is a dude. He was our best player today. Made all sorts of plays and is only a fr. The sky is the limit for him.

Rodgers was all over the place today. 

Canaday made a load of tackles.

Leach was 3 for 3 on xpts today.

Maag made some plays.

Negatives: Our team simply isn’t tough, at all. No edge, no grit, no fire. Watch how NDSU celebrates, they go crazy. 

Both lines are too small. We got pushed around a lot. The whole “every OL lose weight this off season” thing was stupid. 

Having a wr group that looks like a church league basketball team still isn’t working. Most of them can’t separate. We need better athletes on offense. 

Blubaugh, he was brutal today.

Special teams still an issue.

Tackling was rough.

I think our WR personnel is ok.  Just need to recognize what the defense is giving us and take it.  Also, do a better job scheming to the strength of our QB.  Didn’t do that yesterday.  

[Bison06]

4 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

So has Western Kentucky, so what? I know WKU is FBS, but they are far from a football powerhouse, yet they attract some good  QB’s apparently.

Not sure why you need to seek validation on your rival’s message board.  This is why so many get fed up with the Bison fan base.  You’ve got a good thing going, be humble.  You won’t be on top forever.

Why is having a conversation always someone seeking validation? Calm down.

i made a comment, he called it ridiculous and was proven wrong.

I dont think Western Kentucky had a guy get drafted second overall though.

[SiouxVolley]

2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

There is a big difference between playing an FBS money game early in the season and being able to compete weekly with 85 scholarship FBS schools. FCS Appalachian State made huge waves when they beat Michigan on the road, not to mention the three consecutive FCS titles they won before that. That hasn't translated to consistent winning at the FBS level, certainly not vs. the middle to upper echelon of the Subdivision. They are basically bottom-feeders in FBS.

If they are that good, why don't they schedule two FBS money games each and every season? Because they know it's a big risk to get banged up before the MVFC and FCS regular season schedule. And that is what would happen.

Appalachian St had its struggles in transition but is now the top team in the Belt, has been rated (a rare thing for the Belt), and has lost coaches to more opuluent programs.  Ga Southern and App St are the stars of the Belt.

[geaux_sioux]

33 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Why is having a conversation always someone seeking validation? Calm down.

i made a comment, he called it ridiculous and was proven wrong.

I dont think Western Kentucky had a guy get drafted second overall though.

Keep the goalposts where they started.

[geaux_sioux]

37 minutes ago, homer said:

I think our WR personnel is ok.  Just need to recognize what the defense is giving us and take it.  Also, do a better job scheming to the strength of our QB.  Didn’t do that yesterday.  

Ok isn’t gonna cut it

[homer]

20 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Ok isn’t gonna cut it

I think they are good.  With yesterday’s game plan a guy running down the field wouldn’t have done anything.  Middle of the field and the back shoulder stuff was there.  Honestly on our team it’s one of the positions that is least of my concern.  Just need to properly use what we have. 

[geaux_sioux]

12 minutes ago, homer said:

I think they are good.  With yesterday’s game plan a guy running down the field wouldn’t have done anything.  Middle of the field and the back shoulder stuff was there.  Honestly on our team it’s one of the positions that is least of my concern.  Just need to properly use what we have. 

I don’t think we should have Maag Toivonen and Wanzek all out there at the same time. Need some speed out there.

[Bison06]

37 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Keep the goalposts where they started.

He’s the one who moved them by saying western Kentucky isn’t a powerhouse. Not relevant at all to the original conversation of having great qb play for the past 6 years.

[Sioux>Bison]

3 hours ago, Bison06 said:

“Nearly every FBS school” you realize doesn’t mean ALL.

The same Easton Stick that just beat out Cardale Jones in San Diego? Yeah, I’d take him over many P5 starters.

Name the schools who have had their last two QBs drafted when you get a chance. I’ll wait.

 

Jones outplayed Stick in the preseason in my opinion, but you think beating out Jones is a huge accomplishment? Why would the Chargers cut one of their draft picks without giving him some time to develop. I can tell you one thing Stick won’t be in the NFL very long. Too much talent coming in every year. NDSU’s QBs have been good but can we really place Stick in the same category as Wentz?

IMHO Trey Lance looks way better than Stick and could be a high draft pick by the end of his career at NDSU. Disclaimer: as long as he stays healthy, running QBs scare me 

[homer]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I don’t think we should have Maag Toivonen and Wanzek all out there at the same time. Need some speed out there.

Don’t disagree.  We could also use them down the middle of the field.  Also have to keep Zim in the pocket.  Rolling him out scares no one. I think Danny will adjust.  Plenty of tape to learn from yesterday. 

[Bison06]

1 minute ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Jones outplayed Stick in the preseason in my opinion, but you think beating out Jones is a huge accomplishment? Why would the Chargers cut one of their draft picks without giving him some time to develop. I can tell you one thing Stick won’t be in the NFL very long. Too much talent coming in every year. NDSU’s QBs have been good but can we really place Stick in the same category as Wentz?

IMHO Trey Lance looks way better than Stick and could be a high draft pick by the end of his career at NDSU. Disclaimer: as long as he stays healthy, running QBs scare me 

This comment won’t age well. Stick has the smarts and the attitude to be a backup in the nfl for a decade.

 

[bison73]

1 minute ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Jones outplayed Stick in the preseason in my opinion, but you think beating out Jones is a huge accomplishment? Why would the Chargers cut one of their draft picks without giving him some time to develop. I can tell you one thing Stick won’t be in the NFL very long. Too much talent coming in every year. NDSU’s QBs have been good but can we really place Stick in the same category as Wentz?

IMHO Trey Lance looks way better than Stick and could be a high draft pick by the end of his career at NDSU. Disclaimer: as long as he stays healthy, running QBs scare me 

Wasnt it you who said NDSU would never win a Natty with Stick at QB or was it somebody else from this board?

[SIOUXFAN97]

28 minutes ago, homer said:

I think they are good.  With yesterday’s game plan a guy running down the field wouldn’t have done anything.  Middle of the field and the back shoulder stuff was there.  Honestly on our team it’s one of the positions that is least of my concern.  Just need to properly use what we have. 

maybe use a te forthe first time in ten damn years....look at the successful teams in the nfl...pats-gronk eages-ertz chiefs-kelce.  heck event he bizons had one or td's from a te yesterday....

the one thing i'm not on board with with danny is the te's are used in less than rudy...which is almost an impossibility....

[SIOUXFAN97]

8 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Wasnt it you who said NDSU would never win a Natty with Stick at QB or was it somebody else from this board?

me

[SIOUXFAN97]

but i won't say the same things about trey...for a freshman...looks like a senior.. has all the tools

[geaux_sioux]

16 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

He’s the one who moved them by saying western Kentucky isn’t a powerhouse. Not relevant at all to the original conversation of having great qb play for the past 6 years.

Is being a powerhouse required to have a highly drafted player? 

[bison73]

But back to the game thread.

You are better than you were in 2015.

You tacked very well out in space. If you wouldnt have you would have gotten rolled.

The only time there was missed tackles was towards the end of the game which happens to most teams we play after being pounded on by bigger players.

The D sold out on playing the run all game. No half time adjustments.  Terrible decision. That did not put you in a position to be successful unless the coaches figured you didnt have the talent to play it any other way.  Either way It was baffling. IMO

 

Bubba will not take you to the promised land.

 

[Bison06]

12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Is being a powerhouse required to have a highly drafted player? 

You serious Clark?

Duke, Daniel Jones.

Memphis, Paxton Lynch.

[geaux_sioux]

9 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

You serious Clark?

Duke, Daniel Jones.

Memphis, Paxton Lynch.

Exactly. I think that was the point Sioux>bison was making. 

[Ozzie82]

44 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Jones outplayed Stick in the preseason in my opinion, but you think beating out Jones is a huge accomplishment?

An FCS QB beating out Cardale Jones, a QB who beat Alabama and led his team to a national championship? Yes, I do think it’s an accomplishment. 

[Mama Sue]

I just would like to know.... did the Bison put in their second string ever or just play the first in the game yesterday? How much of our second line had time?

[Irish]

20 minutes ago, bison73 said:

But back to the game thread.

You are better than you were in 2015.

You tacked very well out in space. If you wouldnt have you would have gotten rolled.

The only time there was missed tackles was towards the end of the game which happens to most teams we play after being pounded on by bigger players.

The D sold out on playing the run all game. No half time adjustments.  Terrible decision. That did not put you in a position to be successful unless the coaches figured you didnt have the talent to play it any other way.  Either way It was baffling. IMO

 

Bubba will not take you to the promised land.

 

No halftime adjustments is Bubba's trademark.