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iramurphy
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Because if UND upsets NDSU it changes the FB climate of the region. Recruits look at things differently and FB takes a big step forward for UND fans and will raise doubt in the mind of a number of Bis

forksandspoons
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Yet here you are..

90siouxfan
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I assume no porta potties needed in tailgating area...

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1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

I agree with everything you just said.

But that still doesn’t address my question as to why the players would in any way see this as a rivalry game.

The players hear it from the fans. If they are blind the the history of UND vs. NDSU, I guess, I'm not sure I'd want that player on my team. 

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4 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

The players hear it from the fans. If they are blind the the history of UND vs. NDSU, I guess, I'm not sure I'd want that player on my team. 

Why wouldn’t you want that player?

 The history between NDSU and UND in football happened mostly before they were born. I don’t require my favorite team’s players to be historians to be on my team. Not that they ask me about recruiting :)

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1 hour ago, JohnboyND7 said:

Virtually all? Do you want to retract that or????

I will revise. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_college_football_rivalry_games

Of the 359 "Rivalry games" in FBS, FCS, D2, and D3, 198 of them, the winer receives some sort of trophy.  Of course many schools play for more than one.  So virtually all was a bit of an exaggeration on my part.  But the number is definitely over half.  

My point is yes, there are lots of rivalry games in college football that don't play for a trophy (or an inanimate object).  But for those that do, the rivalry game is so much better because you will always have that moment for one team of them carrying around the "trophy" .  And think about what these players are playing for!!  A pot, a jug, an axe, a pig, a skillet, etc.  Doesn't even matter what it is.  The trophy is the symbol that represents that win against the rival.  And that is something that these players will remember forever.

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1 minute ago, Bison06 said:

Why wouldn’t you want that player?

 The history between NDSU and UND in football happened mostly before they were born. I don’t require my favorite team’s players to be historians to be on my team. Not that they ask me about recruiting :)

Foundations of the program is very important. To know where we're going, we have to see where we've been. UND vs. NDSU is a massive part of each team's history and ignoring that would suggest blindness to that type of history. Thus, the player would be ignoring something that is really special to a super-majority of the fanbase.

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1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Foundations of the program is very important. To know where we're going, we have to see where we've been. UND vs. NDSU is a massive part of each team's history and ignoring that would suggest blindness to that type of history. Thus, the player would be ignoring something that is really special to a super-majority of the fanbase.

I couldn’t care less if the players know about the history between NDSU and UND. 

I guess we can just agree to disagree on this one.

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NDSU could hang the third in a row, make it eight of nine, ... but a loss to UND would make the season a failure. (Tip of cap to Rocky Hagar.) 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

NDSU could hang the third in a row, make it eight of nine, ... but a loss to UND would make the season a failure. (Tip of cap to Rocky Hagar.) 

 

 

As much as I wish it were true, I highly doubt this is the tone coming from Entz.   

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4 minutes ago, Shawn-O said:

As much as I wish it were true, I highly doubt this is the tone coming from Entz.   

Entz would be fine with that outcome. He'd bonus. 

I'm talking Bison fans. 

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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Entz would be fine with that outcome. He'd bonus. 

I'm talking Bison fans. 

Old guys like us, yes.  My NDSU neighbors, all under the age of 40...I don't get that sense, at all.   

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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

NDSU could hang the third in a row, make it eight of nine, ... but a loss to UND would make the season a failure. (Tip of cap to Rocky Hagar.) 

 

 

That is a time long-gone.

We could go 7-4, with losses to UND, SDSU, UNI and USD, eek into the playoffs and if NDSU somehow got on a run and won the championship after that regular season, the fan base would only be more excited about it.

”Even on our down years, we still know how to win when it really counts” would be the narrative out of Fargo.

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8 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

I couldn’t care less if the players know about the history between NDSU and UND. 

I guess we can just agree to disagree on this one.

Its not that players need to be history majors on this one, but there should be some awareness of what is considered a big game among fans and the community. Yes, I understand this is not the rivalry it was 15-20 years ago, but still ...

-Proximity matters

-NDSU has been elite; UND wants to get there

-NDSU (especially fans) find UND football inferior; Players should want to prove this wrong as much as fans do.

-Younger fans may not care as much about this match up, but there are plenty of older fans on both sides that care about this game.

-NDSU player to get up for this game as much, if not more than other; knowing that if they lose there will be some outrage among fans.

-Starting this year, we will play you guys every year

Lets talk hockey, UND and the Gophers didn't play for several years, and yeah the rivalry felt a little different, but we still wanted to beat them and badly, and that is going to be non-conf going forward.

Everything about this game between NDSU and UND is building and rebuilding a once great rivalry. I am not saying a UND win will happen, but a UND win would be the ultimate way to ignite this rivalry into what it was.

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1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

I’ve never seen a fan base respond so casually to their starting QB going down.

Must speak very well to how much you all trust the backup.

In Zim we trust

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2 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Its not that players need to be history majors on this one, but there should be some awareness of what is considered a big game among fans and the community. Yes, I understand this is not the rivalry it was 15-20 years ago, but still ...

-Proximity matters

-NDSU has been elite; UND wants to get there

-NDSU (especially fans) find UND football inferior; Players should want to prove this wrong as much as fans do.

-Younger fans may not care as much about this match up, but there are plenty of older fans on both sides that care about this game.

-NDSU player to get up for this game as much, if not more than other; knowing that if they lose there will be some outrage among fans.

-Starting this year, we will play you guys every year

Lets talk hockey, UND and the Gophers didn't play for several years, and yeah the rivalry felt a little different, but we still wanted to beat them and badly, and that is going to be non-conf going forward.

Everything about this game between NDSU and UND is building and rebuilding a once great rivalry. I am not saying a UND win will happen, but a UND win would be the ultimate way to ignite this rivalry into what it was.

I think your last paragraph outlines perfectly how most NDSU fans feel about this game. I believe it’s going to take UND beating NDSU for NDSU fans to truly feel like the rivalry is back.

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Just now, The Sicatoka said:

Bison06: Watch the Drake game. Who would you start week two? 

That’s what I was hoping to see, Pluto tv the only way huh?

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37 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

NDSU could hang the third in a row, make it eight of nine, ... but a loss to UND would make the season a failure. (Tip of cap to Rocky Hagar.) 

 

 

You could go 11-1, and if that one is to those son of a guns north of us, your seasons not a success.—Rocky Hagar, Football America

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1 hour ago, tnt said:

Do tickets usually go for $500 at the Fargo Dome?

I’m sure it does for the big rivalry game against the Jacks. :lol:

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16 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

I think your last paragraph outlines perfectly how most NDSU fans feel about this game. I believe it’s going to take UND beating NDSU for NDSU fans to truly feel like the rivalry is back.

From 1965 to 1992, NDSU won 21 NCC titles, 8 National Championships, and was 22-6 against UND those 28 years.  There was a stretch at the end of that era where NDSU won 12 straight.  I don't think there were any Bison fans in 1992 that thought that rivalry was dead because UND hadn't been successful, especially against the Bison.  Even during there hiatus of not playing each other, UND and NDSU remained rivals. 

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