gfhockey Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He should hire his own provost so lorenzo can retire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Welcome Aboard https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4801280-State-Board-selects-Andrew-Armacost-as-next-UND-president I hope he does great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Welcome Aboard https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4801280-State-Board-selects-Andrew-Armacost-as-next-UND-president I hope he does great! With his background, I think he will be an additional excellent fit for UND. Growth in the right direction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I intend to take a wait and see attitude with Armacost. I'm just not excited about ex military guys, they often seem like they are a bad fit. Hopefully I get proven wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiSioux Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Anyone who has been in Price is Right is okay in my books. Welcome Uncle Andy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 17 hours ago, Hawkster said: I intend to take a wait and see attitude with Armacost. I'm just not excited about ex military guys, they often seem like they are a bad fit. Hopefully I get proven wrong. Same. And just to be clear, it's not that he was in the military, but that he was an academic administrator for the military. Hopefully he proves us wrong and also has better luck with the STEM professors at UND than he did at the Air Force Academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Same. And just to be clear, it's not that he was in the military, but that he was an academic administrator for the military. Hopefully he proves us wrong and also has better luck with the STEM professors at UND than he did at the Air Force Academy. It appears, in this situation, we are satisfied with getting the best of the Average. We hold our sports teams to a higher standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 53 minutes ago, Old Fella said: It appears, in this situation, we are satisfied with getting the best of the Average. We hold our sports teams to a higher standard? Bringing back Clifford was discussed, however there remains kinks in the unfreezing process that need to be worked out. Sorry to disappoint some of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: Same. And just to be clear, it's not that he was in the military, but that he was an academic administrator for the military. Hopefully he proves us wrong and also has better luck with the STEM professors at UND than he did at the Air Force Academy. A one star should have the leadership abilities needed for the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zonadub Posted December 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 3:58 PM, Blackheart said: Tom Clifford was a Marine and he turned out pretty good. Here’s hoping General Armacost is more like President Clifford than any of his successors 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel_Sioux Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I my be biased because I'm in the AF, but I don't really understand the apprehension towards former military members. The former military members I've met in academia were some of my best professors. Are there any specific examples of military leaders not working out at UND? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rebel_Sioux said: I my be biased because I'm in the AF, but I don't really understand the apprehension towards former military members. The former military members I've met in academia were some of my best professors. Are there any specific examples of military leaders not working out at UND? I'm not aware of any at UND, but the current Chancellor of the university system along with one of his vice chancellors are both pretty worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rebel_Sioux said: I my be biased because I'm in the AF, but I don't really understand the apprehension towards former military members. The former military members I've met in academia were some of my best professors. Are there any specific examples of military leaders not working out at UND? Tom Buning, former assistant AD at Army, was in way over his head as UND athletic director and did not endear himself to the fans or alumni. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Irish said: Tom Buning, former assistant AD at Army, was in way over his head as UND athletic director and did not endear himself to the fans or alumni. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there are more Cliffords than Bunings out there...Go Sioux! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Irish said: Tom Buning, former assistant AD at Army, was in way over his head as UND athletic director and did not endear himself to the fans or alumni. You're comparing an athletic department employee to a career academic? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 hours ago, southpaw said: You're comparing an athletic department employee to a career academic? Seriously? No - I was replying to the specific question from Rebel Sioux "Are there any specific examples of military leaders not working out at UND? " Buning was military and did not work out. Not comparing anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 hours ago, southpaw said: You're comparing an athletic department employee to a career academic? Seriously? The AD is actually a pretty high profile position at a large university. For Buning to be that worthless was quite astonishing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 10:05 PM, Rebel_Sioux said: I my be biased because I'm in the AF, but I don't really understand the apprehension towards former military members. The former military members I've met in academia were some of my best professors. Are there any specific examples of military leaders not working out at UND? My take on former military higher ups is they are used to giving orders and expecting people to jump. They don't look at all sides and sometimes they don't understand compromise when it's needed. Someone already said Armacost was thin skinned, coming from a co worker apparently. We don't need someone that's too demanding. Yes, Tom Buning is a prime example, but also remember Gene Taylor at NDSU. He was ex Naval Academy and look how overbearing and dictatorial he was often times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH Golfer Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Hawkster said: My take on former military higher ups is they are used to giving orders and expecting people to jump. They don't look at all sides and sometimes they don't understand compromise when it's needed. Someone already said Armacost was thin skinned, coming from a co worker apparently. We don't need someone that's too demanding. Yes, Tom Buning is a prime example, but also remember Gene Taylor at NDSU. He was ex Naval Academy and look how overbearing and dictatorial he was often times. Wasn't it Gene Taylor that turned around the SU football program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, LH Golfer said: Wasn't it Gene Taylor that turned around the SU football program? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 8 hours ago, LH Golfer said: Wasn't it Gene Taylor that turned around the SU football program? No, but it was Gene Taylor that acted like a bully when he didn't get his way on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hawkster said: No, but it was Gene Taylor that acted like a bully when he didn't get his way on anything. Once Whiskey Joe left in '09 Gene didn't get a complete pass on everything and had to then face some accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Well Dr. Armacost is my new boss and I can honestly say I was initially thinking oh great. However after his open forum and being able to talk with him personally, he appears at first blush like a really great pick and super nice guy. He is a very intelligent man and I got the sense he was really excited to be apart of UND. I have a much better feeling about him than I did with the last two presidents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 The GF Herald stretching the definition of "UND connections" to unbelievable extremes, damn near the breaking point. https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4845677-When-Mark-Kennedy-was-named-president-at-U-of-Colorado-he-was-chosen-ahead-of-others-with-UND-connections One "connection" had no such connection at the time, the other was a one-time commencement speaker who may not have even had that on her calendar when she applied. #clickbait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: The GF Herald stretching the definition of "UND connections" to unbelievable extremes, damn near the breaking point. https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4845677-When-Mark-Kennedy-was-named-president-at-U-of-Colorado-he-was-chosen-ahead-of-others-with-UND-connections One "connection" had no such connection at the time, the other was a one-time commencement speaker who may not have even had that on her calendar when she applied. #clickbait I was curious when I saw this but when I read it and saw it...... move on GF Herald, your hatred is still showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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