SiouxFan100 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I would think Drake has to be the least talented team we will play this year. Doesn’t bode well for us if we can’t expect a comfortable win. Not saying I am right but if the game is close I have to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Drake has finished 7-4 the past three years, so not a terrible team. They have struggled against non-conference FCS opponents with huge losses to Montana in 2018 and both South Dakota Schools in 2017, but only lost 2 conference games. This is a great first match up to me. A challenging enough team that you must play all 4 quarters, but on paper should defeat by 21 points. Drake men's basketball on the other hand: tough team to beat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, northernraider said: Drake has finished 7-4 the past three years, so not a terrible team. They have struggled against non-conference FCS opponents with huge losses to Montana in 2018 and both South Dakota Schools in 2017, but only lost 2 conference games. This is a great first match up to me. A challenging enough team that you must play all 4 quarters, but on paper should defeat by 21 points. Drake men's basketball on the other hand: tough team to beat On the other hand, they took 24th ranked Iowa State (who finished 8-5) to the wire last year 27-24 in the final week of the season, including having a 24-20 as late as the final minute of the 3rd quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 The Drake-Montana game was 17-10 late in the 3rd quarter. Montana then pulled away with two quick TD's to end the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, jdub27 said: On the other hand, they took 24th ranked Iowa State (who finished 8-5) to the wire last year 27-24 in the final week of the season, including having a 24-20 as late as the final minute of the 3rd quarter. I think it's important to note that game was a mud bowl and right before ISU played in their bowl game. I suspect ISU didn't show up for that one. Regardless, a good showing by Drake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: I think it's important to note that game was a mud bowl and right before ISU played in their bowl game. I suspect ISU didn't show up for that one. Regardless, a good showing by Drake. It's important to note the schedule in Drake's losses, too. A big part of football is WHEN you play a team, especially in college. It's why Ohio State can get blown out by Purdue then go on to win the Big Ten and the Rose Bowl - there are a million examples. That's why it's dangerous to compare records because they aren't apple-to-apples. And why conclusions cannot necessarily be drawn if we beat Drake by 1, lose by 1, or win by 50. The final score may be an indicator of future results, but often it's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2015- UND 21/Drake 18 Yotes 52/Drake 0 2016- Jacks 56/Drake 28 2017- Yotes 77/Drake 7 Jacks 51/Drake 10 2018- Griz 48/Drake 16 Iowa St 27/Drake 24 (this game was a torrential down pour and mud fest, FYI) Every good/decent FCS team has more/less smoked Drake early in the year. The exception was us in 2015 when we smoked them in the first half, then almost completely melted down and had to hang on. The following week the Yotes annihilate them 52-0. 2017 the Yotes 77-7, ouch!! If this game is close we don't have a play-off caliber team. It's that telling to me. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: It's important to note the schedule in Drake's losses, too. A big part of football is WHEN you play a team, especially in college. It's why Ohio State can get blown out by Purdue then go on to win the Big Ten and the Rose Bowl - there are a million examples. That's why it's dangerous to compare records because they aren't apple-to-apples. And why conclusions cannot necessarily be drawn if we beat Drake by 1, lose by 1, or win by 50. The final score may be an indicator of future results, but often it's not. I don't disagree with you at all. Good thing my opinion doesn't really matter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: I don't disagree with you at all. Good thing my opinion doesn't really matter! Nor mine! Ha! You and I are on the same page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: 2015- UND 21/Drake 18 Yotes 52/Drake 0 2016- Jacks 56/Drake 28 2017- Yotes 77/Drake 7 Jacks 51/Drake 10 2018- Griz 48/Drake 16 Iowa St 27/Drake 24 (this game was a torrential down pour and mud fest, FYI) Every good/decent FCS team has more/less smoked Drake early in the year. The exception was us in 2015 when we smoked them in the first half, then almost completely melted down and had to hang on. The following week the Yotes annihilate them 52-0. 2017 the Yotes 77-7, ouch!! If this game is close we don't have a play-off caliber team. It's that telling to me. You're right. I would hope we'd beat them handily, especially based on previous seasons and the results you posted. But this is a different Drake team this year, and this is a different UND team. They have a brand new head coach, we have a new OC and a brand new style of offense, personnel is different, etc. You know how football works. It can be weird. But feel free to draw any conclusion you wish if UND doesn't win by the artificial margin you have deemed necessary. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 The Excuse Tour game analysis is over for me!! Let's look at Mississippi Valley State by the numbers. In 2017 the Bison sleep thru a 72-7 game. So. Illinois smashes them 55-3. The Delta Dud-Devils finish 2-9 with 1 victory against Virginia University of Lynchburg. (so basically only 1 W) In 2018 we beat MVSU 35-7 and the Excuse bus loads up with "they are better this year as a program" or "we held back our offense, didn't show them anything". The following week Jacksonville St. dismantles them 71-0. (uh-oh, please pass the crow as MVSU is still dogsh_t) Texas Southern and Alabama A & M beat MSVU by the same margin UND did, by 28 points. (That's pathetic) It's a shorter list, 3 teams, to name that put up less points than we did. Jackson State put up 23, Grambling put up 24, and Alabama St. put up 31, UND put up 35. All other teams put up more points than UND and the list of teams has better athletes in the bands than on the football teams. (Hampton put up 54, Alcorn St. put up 56, Ark Pine Bluff put up 47, Bethune-Cookman put up 41, Texas Southern and Alabama A & M put up 42, and as mentioned a real team like Jack St. put up 71, and the Bison do 72 points in 2017 and played their starters maybe 4 series) This Drake game is a big deal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: You're right. I would hope we'd beat them handily, especially based on previous seasons and the results you posted. But this is a different Drake team this year, and this is a different UND team. They have a brand new head coach, we have a new OC and a brand new style of offense, personnel is different, etc. You know how football works. It can be weird. But feel free to draw any conclusion you wish if UND doesn't win by the artificial margin you have deemed necessary. In my mind I'd like to score at least 40 points and win pretty handily. However I guess what really matters is that we pass the eye test and just look better than them and still win, it doesn't necessarily have to be by 25 plus points. Last time we played in Fargo it was 35-9, which is not close but yet it's not 52-6 either, but yet the game felt more like 52-6. You never know if fluky weird things are going to happen where a tipped pass gets returned for a TD or whatever which could make the score look better or worse in one direction. But I sure as heck hope we are not sitting mid third quarter wondering what the heck is going on like last time we played them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ozzie82 said: You're right. I would hope we'd beat them handily, especially based on previous seasons and the results you posted. But this is a different Drake team this year, and this is a different UND team. They have a brand new head coach, we have a new OC and a brand new style of offense, personnel is different, etc. You know how football works. It can be weird. But feel free to draw any conclusion you wish if UND doesn't win by the artificial margin you have deemed necessary. I will. 35 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Man, your buttons are easy to push! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 17 days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SiouxFan100 Posted August 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2019 I am with Gundy. Not saying the opponent is bad - but saying it is a game we should dominate- not saying the opponent is a pushover but we are supposed to beat teams like this. If we cannot dominate then the coaches didn’t do there job. It would mean we don’t know how to come out and impose our will against one of the teams we should handle. Not saying we can’t improve but I am looking for us to be good more than the opponent to be bad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHawks Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 https://www.drakenation.com/136487/at-North-Dakota-Aug-31-2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 DB's will have to keep this guy in check. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-teams-playing-close-attention-to-drake-wide-receiver-devin-cates/ar-AAFACB7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkoHawks Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, GoHawks said: https://www.drakenation.com/136487/at-North-Dakota-Aug-31-2019 4. In case you want to visit Emerson, Manitoba after the game, it's about an hour and a half from the stadium. lol...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Nodak78 said: DB's will have to keep this guy in check. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-teams-playing-close-attention-to-drake-wide-receiver-devin-cates/ar-AAFACB7 Stepsis said what really jumps out about the wide receiver are his intangibles. Cates checks in a 6-foot-4, 240 pounds. He's also been clocked running the 40-yard dash in 4.7 seconds twice in front of representatives from the Bears and Vikings. My God, how will we ever keep up with a 4.7!! 9 passes for 80 yards against the vaunted Griz (less than 9 yards per reception) seems like a real threat down the field. If we can't cover this guy we'll be in trouble all season long. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Kleinsasser (sp?) 2.0?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 hours ago, SkoHawks said: 4. In case you want to visit Emerson, Manitoba after the game, it's about an hour and a half from the stadium. lol...... Flip the tape, eh! Do they still have strippers on Thursday nights in Emerson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Mama Sue said: Kleinsasser (sp?) 2.0?? In 8th grade maybe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Mama Sue said: Kleinsasser (sp?) 2.0?? Kleinsasser ran a 4.5 and weighed 275lbs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND-FB-FAN Posted August 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 3:53 PM, Ozzie82 said: You're right. I would hope we'd beat them handily, especially based on previous seasons and the results you posted. But this is a different Drake team this year, and this is a different UND team. They have a brand new head coach, we have a new OC and a brand new style of offense, personnel is different, etc. You know how football works. It can be weird. But feel free to draw any conclusion you wish if UND doesn't win by the artificial margin you have deemed necessary. UND *should* beat Drake handily. If they don't, Bubba and the coaching staff failed the players and the players failed themselves. No excuse to play a non-scholarship Pioneer league team close if UND expects to be an FCS playoff team this season. Remember, style points matter in college football and to the FCS playoff committee. UND needs to beat Drake by a sizable margin. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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