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On 10/27/2024 at 3:58 PM, AJS said:

So you’re saying the reason Bubba keeps getting extensions is there’s big $ boosters pumping money into the program to keep him? I had just assumed Chaves was incredibly lazy and loved mediocrity. Very happy with this new development. 

I'm just saying they aren't the armchair ADs that frequent here. At this stage in their life they are enjoying the journey - not saying they are satisfied or don't want more, just saying they aren't thinking they are smarter than UND. 

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11 hours ago, zonadub said:

The DeBoer ship has sailed…

 

Is there any chance in the world that UND could lure Central Valley’s Brent Vigen back to the state?

Ummm.....guessing he will keep his house in the Rockies vs. a home on Belmont street.  A good coach, but just would never happen with his SU ties and his current situation.  

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Posted
11 hours ago, zonadub said:

The DeBoer ship has sailed…

 

Is there any chance in the world that UND could lure Central Valley’s Brent Vigen back to the state?

Go from coaching a team that is currently #2 in the nation, is consistently in the top 5, and has played once for a natty to taking over a total rebuild project and probably for less money?  You're kidding, right?

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12 hours ago, zonadub said:

The DeBoer ship has sailed…

 

Is there any chance in the world that UND could lure Central Valley’s Brent Vigen back to the state?

Lol...even with all the Californians I'd still pick Bozeman. 

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1 hour ago, AJS said:

@Longtime fan @UND-FB-FAN what direction do you want them to go? National search? Danny? Freuchte? I’m being hopeful and let’s say it happens after this year, if that makes a difference. 

I’ve been on record here and officially via communication with “leaders”  for years stating Bubba can’t get it done if we want UND to eventually be a champ like NDSU and SDSU. 
 

I think Danny Freund would be a last resort. The options come down to what we pay and who is interested. The new facilities are getting done upon perfect timing to recruit a new staff.  
 

Early list:

Jake Landry NDSU OC
Danny Freund SDSU OC 
Grant Olson NDSU DC

Isaac Fruechte UND OC

Beau Baldwin (QB coach Calgary Stampeders; former EWU head coach under Chaves)

Tony Annese (HC at D2 Power Ferris State in Michigan)

Todd Hoffner (HC Minnesota-Mankato)

Jerry Olszewski (HC Augustana) 

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45 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I’ve been on record here and officially via communication with “leaders”  for years stating Bubba can’t get it done if we want UND to eventually be a champ like NDSU and SDSU. 
 

I think Danny Freund would be a last resort. The options come down to what we pay and who is interested. The new facilities are getting done upon perfect timing to recruit a new staff.  
 

Early list:

Jake Landry NDSU OC
Danny Freund SDSU OC 
Grant Olson NDSU DC

Isaac Fruechte UND OC

Beau Baldwin (QB coach Calgary Stampeders; former EWU head coach under Chaves)

Tony Annese (HC at D2 Power Ferris State in Michigan)

Todd Hoffner (HC Minnesota-Mankato)

Jerry Olszewski (HC Augustana) 

We riot if it’s Jake. 

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2 hours ago, AJS said:

@Longtime fan @UND-FB-FAN what direction do you want them to go? National search? Danny? Freuchte? I’m being hopeful and let’s say it happens after this year, if that makes a difference. 

I want und to move on from the und connection.  It has done absolutely nothing in the D1 era.  
 

I know you are advocating for Freund but I’m skeptical.  My only positive with him is that he now has a year under his belt with a winning culture in sdsu….could that propel him in a positive direction ??  Possibly.  The thing with is that he’s  never experienced competency in a head coach or staff until this year. Too many years of “good enough” attitude. I just believe that his brain is wired with bad bubba influence for horrible in game decision making. I think he is an upgrade from bubba just unsure of how much ? Think he needs a good 5-10 year re-set from bubba ball  to move up any higher than where he’s at now. 


I would like a national search.  At some point und has to compete with the other Dakota schools and top 10 teams.  There has to be a D2 coach that is having great success that is looking to climb the ladder.  Perfectly fine with a proven d2 or NAIA coach that has a proven track record.  Aka DeBoer .  Nothing like what bubba had in D2 but an actual winner.  Haven’t done any research so I couldn’t give a name 

 

If firing bubba tonight was a possibility I would take Freuchte.  He isn’t a und connection.  Yes he is the current und oc but with less than a year of the bubba influence ….my hope is that his mind hasn’t been altered to und reality.  Think he has the fortitude and drive.  He seems very confident and looks like he can connect with players ? Overall ….it looks like he “gets it”. Would he be the answer??? 

 

 

All of my opinions of course 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
50 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

We riot if it’s Jake. 

IMO Jake Landry is no different than Freund. Both former UND QBs who snubbed Bubba for a conference rival. Honestly, with how horrible Bubba is at coaching right now, I can’t blame either one of them. 

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6 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

I want und to move on from the und connection.  It has done absolutely nothing in the D1 era.  
 

I know you are advocating for Freund but I’m skeptical.  My only positive with him is that he now has a year under his belt with a winning culture in sdsu….could that propel him in a positive direction ??  Possibly.  The thing with is that he’s  never experienced competency in a head coach or staff until this year. Too many years of “good enough” attitude. I just believe that his brain is wired with bad bubba influence for horrible in game decision making. I think he is an upgrade from bubba just unsure of how much ? Think he needs a good 5-10 year re-set from bubba ball  to move up any higher than where he’s at now. 


I would like a national search.  At some point und has to compete with the other Dakota schools and top 10 teams.  There has to be a D2 coach that is having great success that is looking to climb the ladder.  Perfectly fine with a proven d2 or NAIA coach that has a proven track record.  Aka DeBoer .  Nothing like what bubba had in D2 but an actual winner.  Haven’t done any research so I couldn’t give a name 

 

If firing bubba tonight was a possibility I would take Freuchte.  He isn’t a und connection.  Yes he is the current und oc but with less than a year of the bubba influence ….my hope is that his mind hasn’t been altered to und reality.  Think he has the fortitude and drive.  He seems very confident and looks like he can connect with players ? Overall ….it looks like he “gets it”. Would he be the answer??? 

 

 

All of my opinions of course 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’m okay with Fruechte if he cleans out the entire defensive staff. With that said, preference would be a D2 proven winner (Annese, Hoffner, Olszewski) or former FCS national champion head coach (Baldwin), and I’m not holding my breath with the precedent set by Chaves and Armacost and Bubba’s recently extended contract.  

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South Dakota has had a good defense for a while now. You could argue their DC has done more with less than the other Dakota schools. Their defense has risen to the needed physicality to beat the other two Dakota schools. Maybe he’d be a good candidate? I haven’t even looked up who it is so I could be way off. 

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22 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

I want und to move on from the und connection.  It has done absolutely nothing in the D1 era.  
 

I know you are advocating for Freund but I’m skeptical.  My only positive with him is that he now has a year under his belt with a winning culture in sdsu….could that propel him in a positive direction ??  Possibly.  The thing with is that he’s  never experienced competency in a head coach or staff until this year. Too many years of “good enough” attitude. I just believe that his brain is wired with bad bubba influence for horrible in game decision making. I think he is an upgrade from bubba just unsure of how much ? Think he needs a good 5-10 year re-set from bubba ball  to move up any higher than where he’s at now. 


I would like a national search.  At some point und has to compete with the other Dakota schools and top 10 teams.  There has to be a D2 coach that is having great success that is looking to climb the ladder.  Perfectly fine with a proven d2 or NAIA coach that has a proven track record.  Aka DeBoer .  Nothing like what bubba had in D2 but an actual winner.  Haven’t done any research so I couldn’t give a name 

 

If firing bubba tonight was a possibility I would take Freuchte.  He isn’t a und connection.  Yes he is the current und oc but with less than a year of the bubba influence ….my hope is that his mind hasn’t been altered to und reality.  Think he has the fortitude and drive.  He seems very confident and looks like he can connect with players ? Overall ….it looks like he “gets it”. Would he be the answer??? 

 

 

All of my opinions of course 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’m one of the bigger Danny proponents but I get the skepticism. My one thing that I will say is that I just think he could create his own culture. During the time he was here, it was still Bubba’s culture ultimately. Danny could try to make his own a bit but it still relies on the head coach. 

Having said that, I’m open to a national search. I’m also of the opinion that I’m okay with UND being a bit of a stepping stone. If, whoever UND hires is good enough to get poached up a level, things must have been going well. Can lead to a good trickle down effect too. 

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